Frustrated... can't shoot 1/2 moa

[Exodus343]

Went to the range today, dialed in my new loads at 100

can't shoot 1/2 moa at all, I have shot sub moa before but not consistently...
I don't know what I am doing wrong
I load my bipod, and follow through with each round but the groups are just so so horrible


/rant over


*edit
I am using a R700 LTR 20" fluted barrel
with a SWFA 10x42
shooting 168 factory seconds with 41.8 IMR 4064 in a LC LR case using WLR
all trimmed to 2.005" and seated to 2.800"

[dlouie87]

Went to the range today, dialed in my new loads at 100

can't shoot 1/2 moa at all, I don't know what I am doing wrong
I load my bipod, and follow through with each round but the groups are just so so horrible


/rant over

Not to sound like an *** but you need to post more info. What did you shoot, what ammo did you shoot out of it (Could be some bad loads), what were the wind conditions, what are your shooting abilities, etc.

With even all those questions answered and assuming that you have shot 1/2 MOA with that platform before, you might have just had a bad day..... but if you never shot 1/2 MOA or your rifle is not capable of that type of accuracy, then it's you or the rifle to blame.

Your original post basically sounds like... "I went to the race track with my automobile today but I can't get it to run under 12.XX seconds......"

[vliberatore]

Slow down
Control your breathing
Relax

[Fjold]

How do you know that your gun and ammunition are capable of shooting 1/2 MOA?

[Czechsix]

So....what's horrible? What makes it horrible relative to previous groups?

[toby]

Lose the Bipod and start with a good rest.

[Exodus343]

But I shoot better with a bipod on prone?

Sorry for forgetting the details
I'm shooting a 20" R700 LTR with 168 hpbt factory seconds (most likely Sierra) at 100 yards

And my rifle is capable of sub-MOA

[Exodus343]

Also I forgot to mention, I kept fighting the rear bag

Any recommendation for a solid one?

[Spyder]

168 hpbt factory seconds (most likely Sierra) at 100 yards

And my rifle is capable of sub-MOA

Factory seconds generally won't reliably shoot 1/2 moa? And how do you know that your rifle is capable of it?

Also I forgot to mention, I kept fighting the rear bag

Any recommendation for a solid one?

TAB.

[Exodus343]

I don't
But I'm staying hopeful
Third time behind a bolt gun if that counts as anything..
Seeing all the sub-MOA groups here on calguns and then seeing my groups just makes me wonder what am I doing wrong

[Merc1138]

Also I forgot to mention, I kept fighting the rear bag

Any recommendation for a solid one?

Or you could just get an understanding of NPOA so you aren't fighting with the bags.

I don't
But I'm staying hopeful
Third time behind a bolt gun if that counts as anything..
Seeing all the sub-MOA groups here on calguns and then seeing my groups just makes me wonder what am I doing wrong

Why are you buying factory seconds bullets, and expecting great performance? You haven't even described the rifle yet. No one is going to be able to help you with anything. If your shooting is as vague as your post, that might be why you can't compare to the others posting images of cherry picked groups from the entire day.

[Exodus343]

Aren't factory seconds just cosmetically blemished?

Unless something IS effecting performance

And I did, r700 LTR with a SWFA 10x42 shooting with a Harris bipod

[toby]

Your fighting the rear bag because the bipod is moving,it is not a solid rest. Did your rifle shoot better before or from a bench or without the bipod?

[Exodus343]

Your fighting the rear bag because the bipod is moving,it is not a solid rest. Did your rifle shoot better before or from a bench or without the bipod?

I've tried shooting on a bench with a front bag, bipod, and prone on the ground with a bipod

I shot the most accurate and consistent on the ground with the bipod
which is really confusing because everyone tells me to shoot off a rest off the bench YET my groups open WIDE open when I do that

[Stockton]

Well here are a few tips. From my knowledge of owning and shooting an LTR, my experience is they are out of box moa rifles at 100yds (with match grade ammo). Unless you have something seriously wrong with you or rifle I would say that ammo is the first to get rid of.

Torque your stock, base, and rings to proper specs.
Use match grade ammo
Lose the bipod (for now) and use a sand bag
Dry fire a lot.(Find an inanimate object to put scope on and work on fundamentals)
Have fun!