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  • mtenenhaus
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 3416

    if the pistol already has a 6in 9mm barrel and you add a single shot magazine would that suffice?

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    • EBR Works
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Dec 2007
      • 10492

      The pistol must also be minimum 10.5" OAL measured parallel to the bore. You'll probably need a longer barrel to achieve this.
      Last edited by EBR Works; 03-11-2012, 3:31 PM.


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      • kemasa
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2005
        • 10706

        The magazine has to require a tool to remove it, otherwise it could be removed and any magazine installed, which would make it not a single shot.

        As said, the barrel length AND overall length requirements must be met as well.
        Kemasa.
        False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

        Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

        Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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        • kemasa
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2005
          • 10706

          The magazine has to require a tool to remove it, otherwise it could be removed and any magazine installed, which would make it not a single shot.

          As said, the barrel length AND overall length requirements must be met as well.
          Kemasa.
          False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

          Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

          Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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          • bwiese
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Oct 2005
            • 27621

            Originally posted by kemasa
            The magazine has to require a tool to remove it, otherwise it could be removed and any magazine installed, which would make it not a single shot.
            Correct. And this has NOTHING to do with CA AW laws, this is just to make the gun's topology similar to that of various Remington XP100s, etc.


            As said, the barrel length AND overall length requirements must be met as well.
            Yes, we generally refer to that collectively as "dimensionally compliant". Single-shot status alone is not enough. Remember also that revolvers must hold 5 or more rounds to qualify for the single-action revolver exemption, just to cover any edge cases.

            Bill Wiese
            San Jose, CA

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            • pklin1297
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2006
              • 3287

              Glad I found this thread; learned a lot and got to thinking about the pistols I always thought I couldn't have... Have a scenario I would like to see if it can be done:

              1. Say I have all the parts necessary for putting a 1911 together minus the frame. If a 07 FFL who is local in Cali is willing, could they order a frame (Caspian for example), then assemble the whole pistol into SSE format with parts I supply plus SSE compliant parts, and then DROS to me?

              Apologies if this has been asked and answered before. I spent a good hour reading 10 pages here and have read some posts dealing with frames but not my specific question (I don't think) and I couldn't read on anymore...

              Thanks much!
              Last edited by pklin1297; 03-11-2012, 10:41 PM.
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              • Cyc Wid It
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 4485

                Yes, if they are willing, it is legal.
                WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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                • pklin1297
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 3287

                  Thanks much! Time to give DAS a call...
                  NRA Member, CAPRC Member

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                  • Bullwhip55
                    Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 224

                    Thanks Cal Gunners....I was ready to SSE my favorite off roster pistol.But being a little learly of breaking the "law". Now that I have read all of these posts I understand it better and am ready to get my favorite new off roster pistol....

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                    • RedMonkey
                      Barely here....
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 698

                      Hey Cal Gunners,

                      Anyone deal with a Steyr M or S series? I've called some of the ffl's on the list, but none seem to be familiar with them.

                      Thanks,

                      Global

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                      • Strykeback
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 1574

                        Im glad we have the list of ffls willing to accept sse transfers. And i believe i have one more to add in Lompoc. But i think it would also be helpful to create a list of shops or distributors willing to configure your weapon of choice to single shot or to even sell it to a CA resident.

                        Currently looking to get a CZ sp-01 tactical and then a p07 duty both of which are off roster CZs and its a pain trying to find someone to do that.

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                        • Paperchasin
                          YOU are next!!
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 6407

                          Originally posted by Strykeback
                          But i think it would also be helpful to create a list of shops or distributors willing to configure your weapon of choice to single shot or to even sell it to a CA resident.

                          Currently looking to get a CZ sp-01 tactical and then a p07 duty both of which are off roster CZs and its a pain trying to find someone to do that.
                          Go back to the first post and read Section 3. Understand that not all shops can convert the same guns. So in some cases, you might be limited to the 1 shop that has the parts/ability to convert the gun you want. I'd recommend you call the stores in Section 3 to see if they can convert your CZ. It might also be very possible that no one can convert it for you (parts not available, too expensive, etc). Good luck!
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                          • Strykeback
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 1574

                            Thank you. I dont know how I overlooked that list. Ryan at Tablerock does have the conversion for them but CZs are like a mythical unicorn as far as finding one. Emailed valkyrie twice and never got a response. You make a good point. By the time i pay all the extra fees and wait i could be enjoying a nice sig 226...

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                            • Direct Action Solutions
                              Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 441

                              Here is a link to our updated SSE pistol list that we offer.
                              We have 2 options at this point:

                              1: Buy the gun from us and we will charge you our normal price for the gun (assuming it is in stock, or not heavily back ordered). Once the gun is yours, you will come back in the shop to return our SSE parts in exchange for the factory parts that it came with.

                              2: Buy the gun from another dealer and have it transfered to us. We charge $100 + DROS+ CA sales tax for this type of transaction.

                              Either way we will do our best to get you the gun you want.
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                              • 1911Luvr
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 1824

                                I didn't see anyone listed who could help me get an M&P 40 Pro into SoCal. Anyone know who has parts/ability to do this?
                                I voted against Obama before it was cool.

                                Originally posted by 1911Luvr
                                I beg to differ. The full length dust cover rail makes a world of difference in the "when I run out of bullets I'm going to beat you to death with the pistol" look that causes bad guys to run in fear, and lesser men to feel inadequate. It looks just plain beastly and the extra heft up front does help manage recoil a bit better. Plus, an angel told me that when God called JMB to heaven it was to build him a full rail 1911!

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