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**Cyc Wid It** · 01-13-2011, 4:38 PM

SoCal

Shop:

2A Zone
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
(866) 270-7858

Hours: appointment only
Capacity: most common models, transfers only http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=904714
Rate: $100 total including DROS/transfer fees
Shipping: no

Shop:

Addax Tactical
1431 Truman St.
Unit E
San Fernando, CA 91340
(818) 361-5008

Hours:

Tues-Fri 11am - 6pm
Sat 11am - 4pm

Capacity:

Most Glock Gen 4 models (with exception to the Glock 42 until we make the SSE barrel for this).
Most SIG models
S&W M&P's
Most 1911's with the exception of bull barrel type configurations. (9mm 1911 SSE is in the works).

Rate: contact shop
Shipping: no

Shop:

American Gun Works
1837 W. Glenoaks Blvd.
Glendale, CA 91201
phone: (818) 956-6010
fax: (818) 548-8606

American Gun Works - Glendale, California USA

http://www.americangunworks.net/index.php

Hours:

Tue-Fri 10am - 6pm
Sat 10am - 4pm

Capacity: 1911, Glock Gen 4
Rate: $100
Shipping: No

Shop:

AmmoParadise
Anaheim, CA 92807
(714) 864-8064
sales@ammoparadise.com
https://www.ammoparadise.com

Hours: by appointment
Capacity: AR/AK Pistols, Glock (all models), Beretta, Sig, HK, xDm, 1911's, S&W semi-auto, CZ, FN, etc. Including most 45ACP, 40SW, 380, 9mm - inquire within for special requests
Rate: Included on firearms purchased or ordered through shop, $100 on firearms purchased elsewhere
Shipping: No

Shop:

AO Sword Firearms
929 E Main St, El Cajon, CA 92021
(619) 749-4867

Hours:

Mon-Fri 10am - 6pm
Sat 10am - 5pm

Capacity: AR, AK, and most semiautomatic pistols, including single stack and double stack.
Rate: ~$75
Shipping: No

Shop:

Direct Action Solutions
722 Genevieve Street, Suite G
Solana Beach, CA 92075
(858) 436-7088

Hours:

Tues-Sat 10am - 6pm

Capacity: HK45, FNP-45, AR pistols, Draco pistols, 1911's
Rate: contact shop
Shipping: No

Shop:[INDENT]EBR Works
Newbury Park, CA 91320
***ALL SSE INVENTORY SOLD OUT. TRANSFER CALENDAR IS FULL FOR THE REMAINDER OF 2014***

Shop:

Get A Gun
12622 Knights Bridge Place
Bakersfield, CA 93312
(661) 978-6450

Hours: contact shop
Capacity: AR/AK pistols, LCP
Rate: contact shop
Shipping: No

Shop:

Gunfighter Tactical (formerly 'Wiser Owl')
6904 Miramar Rd
Unit 105
San Diego, CA 92121
at Carroll Rd in Miramar
(858) 547-9999

Hours:

M,W-F: 10am-7pm
S: 10am-4pm

Capacity: contact shop
Rate: no charge for SSE
Shipping: no

Shop:

OC Armory
23012 Del Lago Dr
Suite B
Laguna Hills, Ca 92653
949-768-5189

Hours:

Tues- Fri 12pm-9pm
Sat. 9am 6pm

Capacity: Most pistols .380 and larger and revolvers longer than 3" with more than 5 cylinders.
Rate: $45 pistol transfer $55 SSE DROS $25
Shipping: No

Shop:

Hollow Point V
Simi Valley, CA 93065
(805) 325-0111
www.gunshopsimivalley.com

Hours: Appointment only
Capacity: contact shop hollowpointv@att.net
Rate: $120 for SSE including DROS
Shipping: no

Shop:

Limited-10
7960 Silverton ave suite 105
San Diego, Ca 92126

Hours: Appointment only
Capacity: Most glocks, 1911/2011 frames
Rate: $100 1911/2011 frames, guns no SSE fee (only transfer fee)
Shipping: No

Shop:

Own More Guns
Simi Valley, CA 93065
(805) 304-7931
omgtactical@yahoo.com

Hours: Appointment only
Capacity: All .380 ACP, 9mm, .40 S&W & .45 ACP
Rate: contact shop
Shipping: No

Shop:

Parallax Tactical
5276 Eastgate Mall
San Diego, CA 92121
(619) 630-4869

http://www.parallaxtactical.com

Hours:

Tues-Fri 11am - 6pm
Sat 12pm - 7pm
Sat 12pm - 5pm

Capacity:

Walther PPQ in 9mm
CZ - 75 9mm SP01, 9mm Omega, 9mm P07
XDm - All Calibers and Sizes
Sig - P226 9mm and .40, P220 .45, P229 9mm
Smith & Wesson - M&P9 Full Size and PRO/CORE
HK - P30 9mm, HK45, HK45c
1911's - .45 only
Glock - all calibers and sizes except sub-compact 10mm, any .357 sig, any .45 GAP
FN - FNP45, FNX45, FNX9, FNS9

Rate: $100 + tax + DROS
Shipping: No

Shop:

PD Gun Supply & Tool Inc.
2053 Glenoaks Blvd.
San Fernando, CA 91340
(818) 322 4585

Hours:

Tues-Thurs 12pm - 7pm
Fri 12pm - 6pm
Sat 12pm - 5pm
PDG8186746744@gmail.com

Capacity: 1911's, Glocks
Rate: contact shop
Shipping: No

Shop:

Scorpion Arms
20732 Soledad Street #G
Santa Clarita, CA 91351
Tel: (661) 388-2250
Fax: (661) 388-2251
http://scorpionarms.net/

Hours:

Tues-Sat 10am - 6pm

Capacity: Gen 4 Glock, 1911, other models on a case by case basis
Rate: $150 for common models
Shipping: no

Shop:

TDS guns
4370 Bonita Rd, Chula Vista, CA 91902
(619) 434-8895

Hours:

M-S: 11am-7pm
Su: 10am-4pm

Capacity: contact shop
Rate: no fee for guns bought through shop, $200 for outside transfers all inclusive
Shipping: no

Shop:

VC Defense
Thousand Oaks, CA 91362
(805) 380-6486
Sales@VCDefense.com

Brute Dynamics (Formerly VC Defense)

http://www.VCDefense.com

Thousand Oaks, CA Firearm Dealer/ Manufacturer specializing in AR-15 rifles, pistols,(small (.223/ 5.56 and large (308) frame)

Hours: by appointment only
Rates (+tax, 7.5% if applicable + DROS): Included with pistol purchased from VC Defense, $150 for SSEs from other dealers without hardware, $60 for SSEs with hardware from another dealer/ customer or for On Roster transfers. Call or email for SSE of or for custom AR pistol builds.
Shipping: No

Out of State

Shop: Table Rock

**Cyc Wid It** · 01-14-2011, 4:29 PM

Section 4: Shops that are willing to accept transfers in this form

NorCal

California Handgun Exchange (Cottonwood)
Golden Bear Arms (El Dorado Hills)
Norse Armory (Woodland)
Robert Marine (Eureka)
Roberts Gunsmithing and Police Supply (Folsom)

Bay Area

Eddy's Shooting Sports (Mountain View)
Kevin Smith (Martinez)
Republic of Northern Calif Armory (Oakley)
Rob Blank (Milpitas)
Santa Cruz Armory (Santa Cruz)

Central

JK Supply Co (Ione)
Mad River Arms (Riverbank)
Tenpercent Firearms (Taft)

SoCal

Addax Tactical (San Fernando)
Aegis (Burbank)
Bright Spot Pawn (Riverside)
EBR Works (Newbury Park)
Echo Arms (East Orange County)
Fort Courage Armory (Simi Valley)
Gusslers (Santee)
HIT Armory (Upland)
MGM Tactical (Bakersfield)
OC Armory (Laguna Hills)
Pennington Firearms (Wildomar)
Professional Armament Services (Anaheim)
Riflegear (Fountain Valley)
Straightline Tactical (Anaheim)
SWI Firearms (Santa Ana)
Tin Star Supply (Oak Hills/Hesperia)
West Coast Survival Arms (Chula Vista)

Section 5: Out of state vendors who will not ship off roster guns to CA, support vendors that support us

Bud's Gun Shop
STI *maybe some improvement on this front, YMMV
Nelson Tactical
Springfield Armory

FAQ

Q: Where (in the law) does it say that I can convert a gun back to normal capacity?
A: If not prohibited by the law, it is legal. In this case, you are merely performing gunsmithing work. Just keep AW laws in mind.

Q: How do I know this thread has the correct information?
A: I have done my best to combine my own research with outside input/corrections. While I am not a lawyer (yet

), this process has the CGF legal team "seal of approval" and some shops have been visited by both CGF legal folks and the DOJ already without issue.

Q: Can I shoot my gun in single shot exempt form?
A: Yes, and in theory nothing out of the ordinary should happen. Is it recommended? No.

Q: Why won't a shop ABC convert gun XYZ?
A: There are a few possible reasons. First, the gun's design could make a conversion cost/time prohibitive. Secondly, there may not be enough demand for this particular gun. In this case, you could try and organize a group buy to demonstrate demand, or pay more. Finally, the shop may be so overloaded with work that your particular gun is just not high enough on their list yet. In this case, a group buy may or may not bump your gun up on the priority list.

Q: Does this process work for revolvers?
A: Yes, there are somewhat different requirements, but the process works for revolvers as well.

Q: If I decide to sell this gun later, what happens?
A: You can sell it the same way as any other off-roster gun in CA.

Q: What will it say on my DROS?
A: Under type - single shot exempt.

Q: My favorite shop doesn't believe these conversions are legal, how can I convince them?
A: Unfortunately, many shops don't feel comfortable with things that are completely legal. The best you can do is show them the penal code and/or direct them to the CGF legal team if they are willing.

Q: Can I use a gun transferred in this way on my CCW?
A: Yes. The gun, once returned to its original configuration, is fine to put on your CCW, like any other off-roster pistol.

Q: Why can't/won't these shops ship their conversions?
A: Some of them did at first. However, many customers lagged or did not return the parts. Every gun sold in this form must remain converted during the 10 day waiting period so there's no rotating of parts possible. The backlog created by people being lazy/inconsiderate/whatever with returning parts has caused them to stop. Even with the deposit system (which many people would balk at), in the event of a late return other customers are still backed up as shops have to hound the customer or make new parts.
*note - there is new legal advice stating that it may not be necessary to keep the guns in exempted form during the 10 day waiting period (during DROS and pickup only)

**G1500** · 05-18-2011, 1:13 AM

Originally posted by theneko

jbsg- if you do a SSE you can then legally convert the gun to fire <10 rounds. If you legally bought it and legally changed it from a SS, you can put it on your permit. You are not modifying the gun from it's factory-original configuration.

You convert it from a single shot, to a semi auto. It can fire how ever many rounds you have magazines for. If you have older Glock mags, you can use them in your newer Glock.

Originally posted by drclark

Just trying to understand the 07 ffl requirement. Understand that an 07 ffl is required to modify guns while in the shop's possession. However if my cousin in Oklahoma has an off roster handgun in his private possession that I would like to buy, can he do the single shot conversion and then ship to one of the CA 01 ffls who will DROS a sse?

Yes. Problem is, regular dealers can sell the off roster pistols to roster exempt people, but they cannot legally modify the functionality of the firearm. The way they get it is the way they have to sell it. If it is not CA compliant for whatever reason, it must go to an 07 FFL, or return to sender.

**G1500** · 05-18-2011, 4:00 PM

Originally posted by aatruong

Has anyone worked with ammo brothers (Ontario) for these single shot transfer?

I am waiting for an actual confirmation from them, rather than "Should be no problem".

A few guys still think it is 'illegal' to convert a single shot to semi auto (XDm, Glock, Draco, AR, etc). Im hoping to get an XDm soon through them, otherwise, it will be bright spot or Rifle Gear.

**JaeFern** · 05-18-2011, 4:23 PM

This is kind of iffy in my opinion. Andy, based on how things went today, I think they're still unsure of themselves. The guy that did the PPT for us today wasn't sure how to do an off-roster PPT even though it's done like any other one. Then their boss or supervisor seemed skeptical about the whole single shot exemption and that they've never done one for regular pistols, just the AR pistols and AK pistols. Then again, they said if it's legal they'll do it. The guy who helped us said they will so go for it but I'd rather go through someone who was sure that they will do it.
Thanks again Andy! You've helped me complete my XDm collection... Maybe you can help me start my 1911 collection next? Haha

**G1500** · 05-18-2011, 4:41 PM

Originally posted by JaeFern

This is kind of iffy in my opinion. Andy, based on how things went today, I think they're still unsure of themselves. The guy that did the PPT for us today wasn't sure how to do an off-roster PPT even though it's done like any other one. Then their boss or supervisor seemed skeptical about the whole single shot exemption and that they've never done one for regular pistols, just the AR pistols and AK pistols. Then again, they said if it's legal they'll do it. The guy who helped us said they will so go for it but I'd rather go through someone who was sure that they will do it.
Thanks again Andy! You've helped me complete my XDm collection... Maybe you can help me start my 1911 collection next? Haha

I don't know why some people have a hard time doing single shot off roster pistols such as the XDM, but never have a problem with AR pistols and AK pistols.

It is done in the exact same way, they are all off roster pistols in an exempt form.

**Cyc Wid It** · 05-18-2011, 4:51 PM

Originally posted by G1500

I don't know why some people have a hard time doing single shot off roster pistols such as the XDM, but never have a problem with AR pistols and AK pistols.

It is done in the exact same way, they are all off roster pistols in an exempt form.

You give certain people too much credit.

**RippSpeed** · 05-18-2011, 7:59 PM

+1 for Table Rock Arms

I'm a happy customer of Ryan @ Table Rock Arms. Ryan has great customer service and was very patient with me thru the whole process. He couldnt supply the pistol; I wanted. He happily did the transfer from another dealer.

I wanted a rare to find HK P30LS variant 1. Only 200 of these came here to the country and with the help of fellow HK'ers I found one a swooped it up. Ryan, was very strong about getting the pistol I wanted... He said since he couldnt supply the P30LS variant 1. He was more than happy to help me with the transfer and the one shot conversion.

My P30LS is on its way to great guys @ StraightLine Tactical, as we speak. I cant wait to get her out of 10day jail. I'll definitely go back to Table Rock Arms for my next purchase...

P.S.
CZ guys get ready... Ryan is working of barrels for you guys.

**Table Rock Arms** · 05-18-2011, 9:28 PM

Originally posted by RippSpeed

+1 for Table Rock Arms

I'm a happy customer of Ryan @ Table Rock Arms. Ryan has great customer service and was very patient with me thru the whole process. He couldnt supply the pistol; I wanted. He happily did the transfer from another dealer.

I wanted a rare to find HK P30LS variant 1. Only 200 of these came here to the country and with the help of fellow HK'ers I found one a swooped it up. Ryan, was very strong about getting the pistol I wanted... He said since he couldnt supply the P30LS variant 1. He was more than happy to help me with the transfer and the one shot conversion.

My P30LS is on its way to great guys @ StraightLine Tactical, as we speak. I cant wait to get her out of 10day jail. I'll definitely go back to Table Rock Arms for my next purchase...

P.S.
CZ guys get ready... Ryan is working of barrels for you guys.

Thanks for the kind words. I have been doing my best to stay on top of things, but I have been swamped with requests. Funny thing is when I had two barrels I was thinking if I had a couple more I would be set. Now I have probably 20 barrels and I am just as far behind as when I had 2.

Ryan

edit: Thinking about it now I have about 30 barrels for single shot conversion.

**Cyc Wid It** · 05-21-2011, 3:26 PM

The OP has been updated.

**morrcarr67** · 05-21-2011, 3:33 PM

Originally posted by Cyc Wid It

The OP has been updated.

Really like what you did with the OP.

**Librarian** · 05-21-2011, 4:21 PM

Trimmed out most of the old posts, as the info was moved to the original post.

Good job, Cyc Wid It!

**2fast4u** · 05-21-2011, 5:54 PM

Any local So.Cal. Shops doing the work yet?

**mikaarce** · 05-21-2011, 8:55 PM

Originally posted by 2fast4u

Any local So.Cal. Shops doing the work yet?

If you're near Solana beach, call Direct Action Solutions! They were starting on SSE.

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