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  • Cyc Wid It
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4485

    Originally posted by seainc
    Can the HK P7M13 be brought in as SSE if conversion kit is available? and mag send in as parts kit. Thanks
    Anything that's not an AW can be exempted...
    WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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    • 81st
      Junior Member
      • May 2011
      • 3

      Originally posted by Cyc Wid It
      As before, any updates/additions/corrections/suggestions are welcome. I am not an employee nor am I affiliated with any FFL in any capacity other than customer. I will check this thread fairly regularly, or you can PM me.
      This mini database is broken into sections, please use control+F with "Section X" to jump to the pertinent section (as of now, this seems to be the easiest way to navigate a long post):

      Section 1- legal
      Section 2- plain English explanation of the process
      Section 3- 07 FFL's who are performing this process, and the capacity in which they are doing the conversions
      Section 4- FFL's who are willing to transfer these items and their location/information
      Section 5- out of state vendors who will NOT ship off-roster items to CA
      FAQ in next post

      Section 1: Legal

      12133. (a) The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to a
      single-action revolver that has at least a 5-cartridge capacity
      with a barrel length of not less than three inches, and meets
      any of the following specifications:
      (1) Was originally manufactured prior to 1900 and is a curio or
      relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of
      Federal Regulations.
      (2) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at
      least 71/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and
      barrel are assembled.
      (3) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at
      least 71/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and
      barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for
      importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions
      of paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18
      of the United States Code.
      (b) The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to a
      single-shot pistol with a barrel length of not less than six
      inches and that has an overall length of at least 101/2 inches
      when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.

      **note: anything not explicitly prohibited by the law is legal


      Section 2: Explanation

      - This conversion MUST be done by an 07 FFL, or can be done by a private party (unlikely for them to have the parts) prior to shipping.
      *update* An 07 FFL is now no longer required for this process. If you can find an 01 FFL with the knowledge/willingness to do these conversions, you can. I will continue to update the list of shops who will perform this service.
      - Depending on availability and specific shop policies, you may order from an FFL, transfer from Gunbroker, etc.
      - This reversible conversion generally entails a replacement barrel of greater length and a mag lock (not revolvers). There are no permanent modifications to the gun.
      - Keep in mind that certain guns, due to the nature of demand and or design, will be prohibitively expensive or not readily available to be converted.
      - Either complete DROS at that 07 FFL or have it shipped to an FFL who is willing to accept guns in this format. Note, this may require a deposit on the parts from the 07FFL.
      - Take possession of the gun after DROS.
      - Return the gun to its original configuration (note, for guns with the magazine outside of the grip, a bullet button must be used, and you cannot use "normal capacity" magazines).


      if you're interested in an explanation provided by a certified legal expert then read more here



      Section 3: 07 FFL's and other shops doing this work

      NorCal

      Shop:
      Tracy Rifle and Pistol
      2726 Naglee Road
      Tracy, CA 95304-7309
      (209) 833-9100
      Hours:
      Mon-Sat 10 am - 7pm
      Capacity: AR/AK/Mac 10, LCP, Glock Gen 4, Sig, HK45, HK P30, Kahr p380, 1911 .40/.45, xDm
      Rate: contact the shop

      Shop:
      Wild Bill's Old West Trading Co.
      10490 East Stockton Blvd, Ste 150
      Elk Grove, CA 95624
      (916) 686-7699
      Hours: contact shop
      Capacity: Gen 4 Glocks, LCP
      Rate: contact shop

      Bay Area

      Shop:
      Valkyrie Arms
      1751 Houret Ct
      Milpitas, CA 95035
      (408) 957-0600
      Hours:
      Wed-Fri 5:30 pm - 10 pm
      Sat 10 am - 8 pm
      Sun 10 am - 6 pm
      Capacity: AR/AK/Mac10, 1911 9mm/40/45, HK45, HK p30, Glock Gen 4, xDm, LCP, Sig, etc.
      Rate: cost included for firearms purchased through Valkyrie Arms (MSRP), $50.00 for firearms not purchased through Valkyrie Arms
      Shipping: yes


      Central

      Shop:
      Breco Enterprises
      1508 Tollhouse Road, Suite A
      Clovis, CA 93611
      (559) 322-1710
      Hours: contact shop
      Capacity: AR/AK/Draco
      Rate: contact shop

      Shop:
      Cencal Guns
      Visalia, CA
      (559) 827-5131
      Hours: contact shop
      Capacity: contact shop
      Rate: contact shop

      Shop:
      Spencer's Firearms
      14402 Hwy 41
      Madera, CA 93636
      (559) 822-4369
      Hours:
      Tue-Fri 10am - 7pm
      Sat 10am - 6pm
      Capacity: 1911, Hi-Power, Glock Gen 4
      Rate: contact shop

      Shop:
      PRK
      5530 East Lamona Avenue
      Fresno, CA 93727-2277
      (559) 283-8666
      Hours:
      Tues-Thurs 10am - 5pm
      Fri 10am - 6pm
      Sat 10am - 4pm
      Capacity: AR/AK/Mac 10, LCP, xDm, Glock Gen 4, 1911's. etc.
      Rate: contact shop

      SoCal

      Shop:
      Direct Action Solutions
      722 Genevieve Street, Suite G
      Solana Beach, CA 92075
      (858) 436-7088
      Hours:
      Tues-Sat 10am - 6pm
      Capacity: HK45, FNP-45, AR pistols, Draco pistols, 1911's
      Rate: contact shop

      Shop:
      Get A Gun
      12622 Knights Bridge Place
      Bakersfield, CA 93312
      (661) 978-6450
      Hours: contact shop
      Capacity: AR/AK pistols, LCP
      Rate: contact shop

      Shop:
      Lock & Load Gunsmithing
      1507 East Chestnut Avenue
      Lompoc, CA 93436-4901
      (805) 735-1500
      Hours: contact the shop
      Capacity: customer supplied conversion parts
      Rate: contact the shop


      Out of State

      Shop:
      New Frontier Armory
      150 East Centennial Parkway
      Suite 110
      North Las Vegas, NV 89084-1337
      (702) 479-1470
      Hours: M, W, Th, F, Sa, Su 10am - 6pm
      Capacity: contact shop
      Rate: contact shop
      Shipping: yes

      Shop:
      Table Rock Arms
      4570 Table Rock Rd
      Medford, OR 97502
      (541) 702-6216
      Hours: contact shop
      Capacity: 1911, P30, Glock, xDm, FNP45, etc.
      Rate: cost included for items ordered from Table Rock Arms (MSRP), $100 for firearms not purchased through Table Rock Arms
      Shipping: yes
      Deposit if shipped: cost of parts if not returned within 25 days



      Section 4: Shops that are willing to accept transfers in this form

      NorCal

      California Handgun Exchange (Cottonwood)
      Golden Bear Arms (El Dorado Hills)
      Norse Armory (Woodland)
      Placer Tactical (Lincoln)
      Robert Marine (Eureka)
      Roberts Gunsmithing and Police Supply (Folsom)

      Bay Area

      Eddy's Shooting Sports (Mountain View)
      Kevin Smith (Martinez)
      Republic of Northern Calif Armory (Oakley)
      Rob Blank (Milpitas)
      Santa Cruz Armory (Santa Cruz)

      Central

      JK Supply Co (Ione)
      Mad River Arms (Riverbank)
      Tenpercent Firearms (Taft)

      SoCal

      Bright Spot Pawn (Riverside)
      EBR Works (Thousand Oaks)
      Fort Courage Armory (Simi Valley)
      Gusslers (Santee)
      High Impact Tactical (Upland)
      Insight Shooting Range (Cerritos)
      MGM Tactical (Bakersfield)
      OC Armory (Laguna Hills)
      Parallax Tactical (San Diego)
      Pennington Firearms (Wildomar)
      Professional Armament Services (Anaheim)
      Riflegear (Fountain Valley)
      Straightline Tactical (Anaheim)


      Section 5: Out of state vendors who will not ship off roster guns to CA

      STI
      Hi Please add me to list in Section 4 for SoCal
      SWI Firearms (Santa Ana) http://www.swi-firearms.com

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      • emgee00
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 2745

        Originally posted by seainc
        Can the HK P7M13 be brought in as SSE if conversion kit is available? and mag send in as parts kit. Thanks
        This might be a little more challenging over a conventional semi auto pistol. This gun has a fixed barrel similar to my P7M8 shown below.





        WTB: Taurus Tracker in .17 HMR

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        • Cyc Wid It
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4485

          Yeah squeeze cockers are among the problematic ones due to design.
          WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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          • natrab
            Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 301

            Not sure if it's already in here, but Table Rock does M&Ps as well for SSE

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            • seainc
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 1209

              Originally posted by emgee00
              This might be a little more challenging over a conventional semi auto pistol. This gun has a fixed barrel similar to my P7M8 shown below.
              Bummer then I'll get a HK45 or P30 instead. Thanks

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              • neomedic
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 3276

                Anyone know of a 07-FFL in so. cal (Los Angeles County, Orange County, and San Bernardino County) willing to accept off roster gun and do the modifications necessary for SSE?

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                • seainc
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1209

                  OC Armory. http://www.ocarmory.com/


                  Originally posted by neomedic
                  Anyone know of a 07-FFL in so. cal (Los Angeles County, Orange County, and San Bernardino County) willing to accept off roster gun and do the modifications necessary for SSE?

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                  • Table Rock Arms
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 812

                    Originally posted by seainc
                    Bummer then I'll get a HK45 or P30 instead. Thanks
                    The P7M8 can and has been done.

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                    • Oneinchpunch
                      Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 145

                      Neomedic- I highly recommend oc armory. Got my hk p30 there. Mike and Patrick are awesome. I will probably get my next two or three guns from oc armory. I have a beretta u22 neos in mind...

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                      • Endofcomment
                        Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 411

                        Question about buying an off roster frame and slide.

                        I want a caspian and I am in Cali. I have a single shot conversion for a 1911 and am wondering with buying a frame to do the SSE would it have to be a complete firing pistol or could it just be a frame with a single shot top end leaving me to complete the build with the fire control group?

                        Thanks in advance.

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                        • ke6guj
                          Moderator
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 23725

                          Originally posted by Endofcomment
                          Question about buying an off roster frame and slide.

                          I want a caspian and I am in Cali. I have a single shot conversion for a 1911 and am wondering with buying a frame to do the SSE would it have to be a complete firing pistol or could it just be a frame with a single shot top end leaving me to complete the build with the fire control group?

                          Thanks in advance.
                          it needs to be a complete functioning pistol.
                          Jack



                          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                          • Endofcomment
                            Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 411

                            Originally posted by ke6guj
                            it needs to be a complete functioning pistol.
                            Thanks for the help and sorry of its a repeat.

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                            • RippSpeed
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 789

                              Originally posted by Endofcomment
                              Question about buying an off roster frame and slide.

                              I want a caspian and I am in Cali. I have a single shot conversion for a 1911 and am wondering with buying a frame to do the SSE would it have to be a complete firing pistol or could it just be a frame with a single shot top end leaving me to complete the build with the fire control group?

                              Thanks in advance.
                              I've tried to go this route as well its cheaper to buy a frame and build it to your specs versus buying a whole gun and modifying it from there. But is the only way... Unless you have a seller that has one in the state, is the only way to buy a frame ... Why do you think cheaply priced frame only last a minute or 2 in the private sales forum...
                              USPSA# TY72824 = Grand Master of Inconsistency

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                              • Endofcomment
                                Member
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 411

                                I have a few options. My brother lives out of state and my dad lives in state so an intrafamily transfer is available. Also I have the necessary parts to complete a pistol that came off my RIA so the fit should be sloppy enough to not require altering the frame.

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