New Timney Glock trigger

[MajorSideburns]

Does this trigger negate the firing pin block of the Glock? There is a firing pin block that prevents the striker from moving forward unless the factory trigger is pulled. Does this TImney trigger hold the pin block open?

[awiner]

New Timney Glock trigger

Does this trigger negate the firing pin block of the Glock? There is a firing pin block that prevents the striker from moving forward unless the factory trigger is pulled. Does this TImney trigger hold the pin block open?

The Timney does indeed keep the firing pin block safety as well as all other factory safety features intact.


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[Dooder]

A lot of folk say the Timney drops a safety and it does not. The cruciform still rests on top of the drop safety notch. The cruciform still catches the striker if the trigger doesn't release the sear. The fp block does not lose any function at all and the trigger safety still works.

[Elysium]

What makes this Timney trigger unsuitable for carry?


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[97F1504RAD]

What makes this Timney trigger unsuitable for carry?


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[coals]

What is trying to be said is that the Timney is not a carry trigger. The name of it is "Alpha Competition". Cooley helped design the trigger and guess what, he's a competitor. Look at the type of triggers Timney makes...competition and hunting triggers. Maybe later on there will be an Alpha Defense or an Alpha Combat. But using a "competition" trigger for defense sounds like a bad idea to me. Also the trigger is made to reduce the effort needed to use it.

The very design of the Timney trigger isolates the pull and reset and makes the firing pin spring weight irrelevant and makes the connector weight close to non influential. The Timney is designed to work with a stock 5.5# connector and will give 3lb trigger. The use of a 3# connector gets a 2.5#. But that also depends on how one tunes the connector as well. But my point is that increasing connector weight will have little effect on the system.

Can't use the NY spring with the Timney system. The Timney replaces the Glock trigger spring and it has it's own trigger bar as the cruciform is a different shape.

Hey Dooder, I actually found Calguns through your youtube video on this trigger. Cool stuff man.

I get everything you guys are saying. And yes, I too also think a 3# trigger is too light for carry but if you happen to have an 8# (+) connector and wouldn't mind installing and measuring the pull weight that would cool. For science. Lol. Even though your trigger is modified I have a feeling the pull weight will be > than 4 lbs.

[Snoopy47]

Hey Dooder, I actually found Calguns through your youtube video on this trigger. Cool stuff man.

I get everything you guys are saying. And yes, I too also think a 3# trigger is too light for carry but if you happen to have an 8# (+) connector and wouldn't mind installing and measuring the pull weight that would cool. For science. Lol. Even though your trigger is modified I have a feeling the pull weight will be > than 4 lbs.

Your best bet to crank up the trigger pull of a Timney Glock Trigger is to find a suitable L-Spring with a heavier weight for the new Trigger Return Spring.

[naz]

Hey guys, anyone with this trigger installed in norcal? Can I please meet you at a range to dry fire and compare with my current setup? Thank you!

[Dooder]

Hey Dooder, I actually found Calguns through your youtube video on this trigger. Cool stuff man.



I get everything you guys are saying. And yes, I too also think a 3# trigger is too light for carry but if you happen to have an 8# (+) connector and wouldn't mind installing and measuring the pull weight that would cool. For science. Lol. Even though your trigger is modified I have a feeling the pull weight will be > than 4 lbs.

Oh wow cool, glad to see that its out there and getting around.

I get what you're saying now and I find it rather interesting and want to give it a try. I think there could be some interesting outcomes with the + connector and tweaking it. Since there's no 6 or 7#, reprofiling the 8 could unleash something cool...or it may not haaha.

Theres a couple reasons this could work out good. One is that the stronger the connector, the more solid or less mushy the break will be and there will be a firmer wall. With that being said I'll bring something up again as well. The connector as well as the condition of the plunger and striker all play a role in the crispness if the trigger release and reset. If your plunger and strikers are munged up then you can expect some squishiness to come out of that.

@Snoopy47 brings up an interesting point as well. A stronger return spring will impart weight on the trigger pull but will do nothing for the characteristic of the break. It'll end up feeling like Ghost connector. That wall-less unpredictable, lack of tactile response feeling haaha. By changing connector weight higher the poundage should increase along with crispness....in theory haaha.

I've been dry firing quite a bit and did function testing at the range and you know what... I'm starting to find my Timney set ups a bit boring. The Lone Wolf - is a good connector but it offers a bit too much creep. In my stock Timney set up I'm trying out a Lantac Ssr-...its meh just like 90% of the other Glock parts out there.

When I get back in town next week Will try out some stuff. Meanwhile I'll procure a + connector haaha.

[AFTII]

What makes this Timney trigger unsuitable for carry?


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If you are comfortable that you have enough trigger control to keep you firing an unintended shot with a 3lb trigger when under stress, then there is absolutely no reason, to my knowledge, why you couldn't carry a Glock with a Timney trigger. You might actually hit what you are aiming at instead of blasting dirt. As an aside, Plenty of folks carry 1911s with even lower pull weights and there is no rash of AD killings.

That said, you have to be super vigilant when reholstering. Otherwise, you could develop a serious case of Glock leg irrespective of your otherwise perfect trigger control.

[mausercat]

I think that problem for a pull weight of less than 3 lbs is that it has no safety that you can engage except for keeping your finger off of the trigger. If you were to have AD and wound someone who is not the assailant or even if you fired and missed and hit a bystander the California DAs would charge you with everything they have. You would be portrayed as a person who installs "hair triggers" on your defensive weapons and they could find plenty of so called "professionals" who would say that your weapon would not be acceptable by any police force, and the that the manufacturer calls it a target trigger not a service trigger.

[Mr. Patis]

This is a start of something for all striker guns

[Elysium]

If you are comfortable that you have enough trigger control to keep you firing an unintended shot with a 3lb trigger when under stress, then there is absolutely no reason, to my knowledge, why you couldn't carry a Glock with a Timney trigger. You might actually hit what you are aiming at instead of blasting dirt. As an aside, Plenty of folks carry 1911s with even lower pull weights and there is no rash of AD killings.

That said, you have to be super vigilant when reholstering. Otherwise, you could develop a serious case of Glock leg irrespective of your otherwise perfect trigger control.

Absolutely.

Handle dangerous object with care.

Train. Repeat. Train. Repeat. Train. Repeat.


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[aar0n_k]

You should not be messing with that takeup screw unless you have an intimate working knowledge of the Glock trigger and safety systems. I would also use a dab of blue loctite on that screw if you have it on hand. Back it out until you have a little gap between the trigger safety tab and the frame when the trigger is at rest

Thank you for the info. At the time I posted my question, I was actually referring to the allen head the secures the new trigger mechanism housing, and hadn't even realized there was an adjustment screw on the trigger shoe itself.

After you mentioned it I took everything apart again and set it to the appropriate uptake so that some pre-travel was taken out while maintaining full functionality of the trigger safety. I also did the 25cent trigger job on the assembly while I had the assembly out again.

@Snoopy47 brings up an interesting point as well. A stronger return spring will impart weight on the trigger pull but will do nothing for the characteristic of the break. It'll end up feeling like Ghost connector. That wall-less unpredictable, lack of tactile response feeling haaha. By changing connector weight higher the poundage should increase along with crispness....in theory haaha.

I had actually managed to lose my return spring when I had the my G19.3 apart at the range. I contacted Timney and they did offer to mail me a replacement, but it won't be here for another couple of days. So I ended up ordering several torsion springs from McMaster to see if one of them would work. If anyone is interested, this is the one that ended up fitting:

https://www.mcmaster.com/9287K78/

The legs will need to be trimmed down to roughly 12mm like the one provided with the Timney kit. The ID of the spring is slightly larger, and until I receive the replacement spring I won't be able to confirm if the wire diameter is the same. The return is definitely more pronounced with this spring. While I don't have the specs of the spring included with this kit, the specs of the one I used are shown in the link above. I'm no engineer but I'm 99% sure that by trimming the legs, the spring torque is affected. The provided specs are just a baseline at this point.



Here it is in conjunction with the replacement spring I sourced, a Ghost 3.5 bar, and some grease where Johnny Glock's video specified. ZERO hanging/reset issues.

https://imgur.com/a/PYpoTot

[Snoopy47]

Funny how millions and millions of folks drive around on brake jobs they did themselves to their cars but tinkering with a gun is somehow beyond so many.