New Timney Glock trigger

[SkyHawk]

So I know it has been mentioned but it deserves a dedicated thread. The new Timney Glock drop-in trigger is revolutionary for Glocks. It transforms the Glock into a fully cocked striker system, where the trigger only serves to trip the sear. It will be the closest thing possible to a 1911 trigger in a Glock.

Timney claims a 3lb break out of the box. Johnny Glock has gotten one down to ~3oz pull, while demonstrating safe drop test reliability - ridiculous! He has seen some trigger return stickiness in the out of the box configuration so that is something to keep an eye on for sure, but I think it can remedied on a case by case basis if need be.

I will do a bit of polishing but I am sticking with stock striker spring and the standard torsion trigger return spring that is included, to start.

Anyhow this is the dawn of a new Glock trigger era, and I can't wait to try it. I have one arriving in a couple of days and I am trying to decide if I try it in the G34G4 or G35G4 first??

https://timneytriggers.com/alpha-competition-series-for-glock-gen-3-4/

[Dooder]

A couple of my buddies got one and said its truly different and "epic". I'm a fan of Timney triggers, I even use the Timney Bow release! So I have faith this will be truly unique and awesome. So I ordered one on Friday and it'll be here tomorrow.

I've tried A LOT of Glock triggers and none have actually been good. They're just minor improvements because they all tried to improve the existing trigger mechanism. The difference is that the Timney IS a different mechanism. I'm excited about the Timney. This is going to be awesome!

[smittty]

A couple of my buddies got one and said its truly different and "epic". I'm a fan of Timney triggers, I even use the Timney Bow release! So I have faith this will be truly unique and awesome. So I ordered one on Friday and it'll be here tomorrow.

I've tried A LOT of Glock triggers and none have actually been good. They're just minor improvements because they all tried to improve the existing trigger mechanism. The difference is that the Timney IS a different mechanism. I'm excited about the Timney. This is going to be awesome!

[Shab21]

To bad they don't have G20/G21

[Preston-CLB]

My G17 is stock right now, except for sights, so I find this Timney trigger to be interesting, albeit a tad on the pricey side.

I too am looking forward to reviews.
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[trapshot68]

Timney claims a 3lb break out of the box. Johnny Glock has gotten one down to ~3oz pull, while demonstrating safe drop test reliability - ridiculous! He has seen some trigger return stickiness in the out of the box configuration so that is something to keep an eye on for sure, but I think it can remedied on a case by case basis if need be.

Truly something different that has caught my eyes. When first announced, all the chairborne people were proclaiming how it does what it does by disengaging most of the safeties, but I'm seeing that the trigger, firing pin, and drop safety all are present and not compromised. I've dabbled with several other brands, and never was happy with any of them (all seem to do the same thing, with a different logo or look to it). This might need a chance taken by me.

As for the stickiness, I saw on Glocktalk that it's from how much the connector is pushed out from the housing, and just needs a fine tune-in. Too little, mushy, too much, stuck.

[Dooder]

To bad they don't have G20/G21

I feel the same way. There's more on the way. The Gen 5 is already in the works, it can be preordered at Brownells right now. So hopefully therr will be a large frame.

My G17 is stock right now, except for sights, so I find this Timney trigger to be interesting, albeit a tad on the pricey side.

I too am looking forward to reviews.
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It's actually priced quite well compared to the others. It has a aluminum housing, bar and trigger. The Overwatch\TAC trigger is $135 and thats just a trigger shoe with a polished bar. Agency is the same way for $145. Fulcrum is complete and $180, Salient $170, Pyramid $250, Skimmer $160...yea I've wasted a lot of money on hyped triggers. Those are just another Glock trigger as they use the same parts with a fancy shoe. The Timney is a different Glock trigger with different parts and actually functions a different way. I'm looking forward to this as well.

But the proof is in the pudding. I'll know tomorrow how it feels and hopefully a range trip on Wednesday. Then I'll be able to run it and see if there's any difference in performance.

[Preston-CLB]

It's actually priced quite well compared to the others. It has a aluminum housing, bar and trigger. The Overwatch\TAC trigger is $135 and thats just a trigger shoe with a polished bar. Agency is the same way for $145. Fulcrum is complete and $180, Salient $170, Pyramid $250, Skimmer $160...yea I've wasted a lot of money on hyped triggers. Those are just another Glock trigger as they use the same parts with a fancy shoe.

Dooder, thanks for the price comparison. I have not researched any aftermarket Glock triggers. In that vein, the Timney is pretty reasonable.

I will be eyeing this thread for user notes.
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[SkyHawk]

To bad they don't have G20/G21

You are right, but I bet one will be coming soon.

I've tried A LOT of Glock triggers and none have actually been good. They're just minor improvements because they all tried to improve the existing trigger mechanism. The difference is that the Timney IS a different mechanism. I'm excited about the Timney. This is going to be awesome!

I agree most of the aftermarket stuff was not worth it. There was no getting around the fact that the trigger was also cocking the striker, and I was never a fan of running reduced power striker springs.

[k1dude]

I've been wanting to get one, but every time I put one in my cart, they're gone by the time I check out.

Edit: Just bought one at MidwayUSA.

[Dooder]

Woo!! Fed Ex delivered it a day early! It's pretty easy to install. The feel is significantly better. I like that the trigger resets even though the striker isn't. Picture after you dry fire the trigger resets and you can practice your trigger work without racking the slide. At this point it's like a video game trigger or one of them laser trainers, you don't get the actual break but you get trigger and spring tension.

I like it a lot so far. I'm going to put the fine tooth comb to it tonight. Visually I've found one thing that needs to be addressed on the trigger bar, but it's not wrong or out of the ordinary. It does transfer to feel so I'm going to go ahead and slick that part out. The trigger bar and connector relationship is what makes the Glock trigger work. So some tweaking or polishing is naturally part of the trigger work.

The bar and the metal surfaces aren't polished, they're blasted. With that being said it does feel very smooth, maybe it needs a bit of tooth for it to operate correctly.

The G34 that I installed it in has had a Fulcrum in it for the past decade. The connector is set up for that trigger and needs just a tiny tweak for the Timney. Again a normal thing, connectors do need fitting to each trigger bar. The Ghost connectors even need to be trimmed to fit.

As someone mentioned before sticky reset is due to connector tension.

But in summary, thumbs up. I would and will buy again.

[Rockoutwithyerglockout]

crappy reset seems like a big red flag to me. It doesn't take much to get a stock gen 3 trigger down into the 3 pound range, and depending on what connector you use, you can get a nice fast short audible reset - and you don't have to disable any of the internal safety features.

[SkyHawk]

I like that the trigger resets even though the striker isn't. Picture after you dry fire the trigger resets and you can practice your trigger work without racking the slide.
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So some tweaking or polishing is naturally part of the trigger work.

The bar and the metal surfaces aren't polished, they're blasted.

I was re-thinking my polish idea. I think the parts are teflon (NP3) coated so I will not be polishing them at first.

I am curious how the trigger could be dry fired with the same effect without racking the slide. There is no way the striker is being cocked and reset back on the sear without racking the slide a bit. So whatever you are feeling on subsequent trigger pulls, it does not involve the sear tripping off the cocked striker and I doubt it is the same feel

crappy reset seems like a big red flag to me. It doesn't take much to get a stock gen 3 trigger down into the 3 pound range, and depending on what connector you use, you can get a nice fast short audible reset - and you don't have to disable any of the internal safety features.

Sure you can get a stock trigger down to 3lbs if you are willing to compromise primer ignition reliability by installing a lighter striker spring. Timney does it with a stock spring. And no matter what, you are never getting rid of the sponge feeling with the stock trigger.

Johhny Glock has made his living doing work on stock triggers for 10+ years and he has his own line of drop in triggers based on the stock system. And he has worked on and with every aftermarket Glock trigger under the sun. I'm not saying he is the know-all of Glock triggers, but I do know that he is a business man and makes his living at it, and he is giving serious props to a competitor. He seems pretty dang impressed with the Timney, he even seems giddy about it. Maybe you will be someday too.

[Dooder]

I was re-thinking my polish idea. I think the parts are teflon (NP3) coated so I will not be polishing them at first.

I am curious how the trigger could be dry fired with the same effect without racking the slide. There is no way the striker is being cocked and reset back on the sear without racking the slide a bit. So whatever you are feeling on subsequent trigger pulls, it does not involve the sear tripping off the cocked striker and I doubt it is the same feel

It is kind of confusing. But yes you are correct there is trigger reset without the striker being cocked. So trigger reset but no action reset. Imagine that no striker, engagementless feeling of the Ghost but all the time, even with the slide off. Yes with no slide the trigger still works. So you get full trigger movement without sear engagement...like a video game gun trigger.

The Timney trigger return is independent from the rest of the system. The trigger no longer cocks the striker, all it does it release it...like a normal trigger. This is why its a pretty cool system. Its making the striker action into a more traditional action...aside from the trigger resetting.

Picture this, with the slide off of the gun there is still full trigger movement and tension. Its really neat.

Oh and for the polishing, I forgot about the np3 coating. So it is what it is. I'm going to fiddle with it and if I can't remedy then I'll need to contact Timney to see what to do.

[heidad01]

Sounds like somebody finally came up with an idea to fix Glock's retarded trigger system.
Most other ones I have seen simply provide various degrees of lube and hand jobs to a glock trigger.

Can some one who has tried this please comment if it gets rid of that sick mushy trigger feel of a glock?