New Timney Glock trigger

[awiner]

I had actually managed to lose my return spring when I had the my G19.3 apart at the range. I contacted Timney and they did offer to mail me a replacement, but it won't be here for another couple of days. So I ended up ordering several torsion springs from McMaster to see if one of them would work. If anyone is interested, this is the one that ended up fitting:

https://www.mcmaster.com/9287K78/

The legs will need to be trimmed down to roughly 12mm like the one provided with the Timney kit. The ID of the spring is slightly larger, and until I receive the replacement spring I won't be able to confirm if the wire diameter is the same. The return is definitely more pronounced with this spring. While I don't have the specs of the spring included with this kit, the specs of the one I used are shown in the link above. I'm no engineer but I'm 99% sure that by trimming the legs, the spring torque is affected. The provided specs are just a baseline at this point.

Thank You !!! Interested to hear what you think of the return strength in comparison once your receive the Timney spring to compare.

[Oceanbob]

Heck....my wife left to buy more shoes so I took 10 minutes to
install this Timney Trigger.

All I can say is WOW. Very nice.....‼️

It reminded me of a PPQ I once had during the single shot exemption days.

Definitely worth the money...

Be well
Bob

[NATEWA]

Installed for a friend with arthritic fingers. Much better and easier for him now to fire his Glock 19. I like it! I’ve always had stock triggers so have nothing to compare it to.

Timney - make one for the g20/21’s please!

[bigboss91]

Thank you for the info. At the time I posted my question, I was actually referring to the allen head the secures the new trigger mechanism housing, and hadn't even realized there was an adjustment screw on the trigger shoe itself.

After you mentioned it I took everything apart again and set it to the appropriate uptake so that some pre-travel was taken out while maintaining full functionality of the trigger safety. I also did the 25cent trigger job on the assembly while I had the assembly out again.







I had actually managed to lose my return spring when I had the my G19.3 apart at the range. I contacted Timney and they did offer to mail me a replacement, but it won't be here for another couple of days. So I ended up ordering several torsion springs from McMaster to see if one of them would work. If anyone is interested, this is the one that ended up fitting:

https://www.mcmaster.com/9287K78/

The legs will need to be trimmed down to roughly 12mm like the one provided with the Timney kit. The ID of the spring is slightly larger, and until I receive the replacement spring I won't be able to confirm if the wire diameter is the same. The return is definitely more pronounced with this spring. While I don't have the specs of the spring included with this kit, the specs of the one I used are shown in the link above. I'm no engineer but I'm 99% sure that by trimming the legs, the spring torque is affected. The provided specs are just a baseline at this point.



Here it is in conjunction with the replacement spring I sourced, a Ghost 3.5 bar, and some grease where Johnny Glock's video specified. ZERO hanging/reset issues.
https://imgur.com/a/PYpoTot

I can confirm these McMaster Carr springs are GTG once trimmed to the proper size. They increase the reset force without sacrificing the clean break! Thank you for finding these!

[coals]

Good ole Johnny Glock with a more carry ready upgrade to this trigger. I'm pretty sure the increased wall break was done partly by using a 8 lb connector (which he mentioned before) but not sure about what he did for the reset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGwT6sWigjE

[Dooder]

Ok, I have an update. I tried the 8lb connector and I much prefer it. I raised the pull weight to 3lb 11oz and that's consistent with two different frames. The weight is heavier but it feels so much better. It's much much crisper and after tuning tension the reset is very positive.

Trigger feel is a thing of preference and for me I'd take a crispier break over a rolling break even if it's slightly heavier. I understand the rolling break and it has it's place, just not in my race guns haaha.

Second finding, the spring leg that sticks up out of the frame has peened my barrel lug. I was trying the fit of the barrel out of the frame and the spring actually pushes up on the barrel. So I just bent and dog leg into the top of the spring and now there's no interference at all.

Hope this helps y'all.

[Maximus Prime]

Black and red look really sharp! Now I only need to locate a Glock at pre-covid price.

[eaglemike]

Ok, I have an update. I tried the 8lb connector and I much prefer it. I raised the pull weight to 3lb 11oz and that's consistent with two different frames. The weight is heavier but it feels so much better. It's much much crisper and after tuning tension the reset is very positive.

Trigger feel is a thing of preference and for me I'd take a crispier break over a rolling break even if it's slightly heavier. I understand the rolling break and it has it's place, just not in my race guns haaha.

Second finding, the spring leg that sticks up out of the frame has peened my barrel lug. I was trying the fit of the barrel out of the frame and the spring actually pushes up on the barrel. So I just bent and dog leg into the top of the spring and now there's no interference at all.

Hope this helps y'all.

Good job
I was thinking the 8 lb connector might be the schizzle. Should be crisper.

[SkyHawk]

It is not design to be used as that it is designed for competition use and in my opinion the trigger pull is to light for CCW. But that’s just me you do you.

IMO a gun with this trigger is no different than a 1911. Anyone who feels a gun with this trigger is not suitable for carry must also think a 1911 is not suitable for carry. And there are a whole bunch of notable people who would beg to differ.

This trigger is absolutely safe. I have observed it with the gunsmith striker plate. It has excellent sear engagement, the drop safety is intact, the firing pin safety is 100%, and the trigger tab safety is also there.

Other than a lighter and crisper pull, this changes nothing about the safety systems of the Glock. Some could reasonably argue that it is much safer for carry, certainly for bystanders. The chances of hitting what you want and not hitting what you don't want, increase with this system.

If we were to extrapolate your logic, only the heaviest triggers achievable should be safe to carry.

I carry Glocks and 1911s - I would not hesitate to carry this trigger or use it in a nightstand gun and bet my life on it. And no one is going to tell me a 1911 is unsuitable for carry because 'too light trigger'.

[SkyHawk]

Hey guys, anyone with this trigger installed in norcal? Can I please meet you at a range to dry fire and compare with my current setup? Thank you!

Norcal is a big place, where exactly?

[SkyHawk]

Ok, I have an update. I tried the 8lb connector and I much prefer it. I raised the pull weight to 3lb 11oz and that's consistent with two different frames. The weight is heavier but it feels so much better. It's much much crisper and after tuning tension the reset is very positive.

Trigger feel is a thing of preference and for me I'd take a crispier break over a rolling break even if it's slightly heavier. I understand the rolling break and it has it's place, just not in my race guns haaha.

Good job
I was thinking the 8 lb connector might be the schizzle. Should be crisper.

I also speculated that a heavier connector may work better and exactly opposite of what we are used to - I am glad to hear someone has tried it. Now I need to track down a 8lb connector but first I will try a stock Gen 3 connector and compare it to this Gen 4 Dot connector I have installed now.

Thanks for the report Dooder!

[97F1504RAD]

IMO a gun with this trigger is no different than a 1911. Anyone who feels a gun with this trigger is not suitable for carry must also think a 1911 is not suitable for carry. And there are a whole bunch of notable people who would beg to differ.

This trigger is absolutely safe. I have observed it with the gunsmith striker plate. It has excellent sear engagement, the drop safety is intact, the firing pin safety is 100%, and the trigger tab safety is also there.

Other than a lighter and crisper pull, this changes nothing about the safety systems of the Glock. Some could reasonably argue that it is much safer for carry, certainly for bystanders. The chances of hitting what you want and not hitting what you don't want, increase with this system.

If we were to extrapolate your logic, only the heaviest triggers achievable should be safe to carry.

I carry Glocks and 1911s - I would not hesitate to carry this trigger or use it in a nightstand gun and bet my life on it. And no one is going to tell me a 1911 is unsuitable for carry because 'too light trigger'.

[elSquid]

IMO a gun with this trigger is no different than a 1911. Anyone who feels a gun with this trigger is not suitable for carry must also think a 1911 is not suitable for carry. And there are a whole bunch of notable people who would beg to differ.

https://pistol-training.com/archives/8549

[SkyHawk]

Except 1911s have manual safeties and there are no notable people that advocate disabling them. Seems like an invalid comparison.

The lighter the trigger weight and the shorter the travel, the less room for error on the user’s part.

I don't think anyone here is advocating disabling any safeties And the Timney trigger doesn't disable any of the safeties found in every single Glock carried by police officers and FBI agents out in public daily, to name a few. They are all still there.

And Glocks have firing pin safeties whereas most 1911s do not

And every person trained to carry a 1911 is usually trained to break the safety as the gun is coming up. So what good does the safety on a 1911 do when the gun is pointed at someone?

And some might view the manual safety on a Glock being the trigger tab safety.

And again extrapolating this 'light weight trigger is bad' theory, I suppose 20lb triggers should be the gold standard for carry work?

And the Timney, if it has any less travel, is really minuscule less - honestly I notice no difference in travel from stock. The trigger tab safety limits any meaningful pretravel adjustment. Sure it has the potential for less travel if someone wants to do some mods, but so does the factory trigger.

People see the word 'Competition' perhaps and freak out, and any new system is inevitably met with skepticism. But if you don't personally have one of these and also a genuine, intimate understanding of the Glock action, IMO you are not really in a position to make informed judgements about what it is or isn't.

[mellowjamesy]

I got mine installed just recently too! Have yet to shoot it. Did you noticeably feel any major differences compared to other brands like ZEV, Agency, etc