New AR Pistol for California, NOT A SINGLE SHOT

[franklinarmory]

Your gunsmith is not qualified enough to be working on guns if he uses a heat gun instead of a torch to try to remove loctite.
Heat guns are too wimpy and therefore too slow so you end up heating everything up, but not getting it hot enough to actually breakdown the loctite.
A torch is more powerful so you can heat up a much smaller area to 400 degrees very quickly and then stop applying heat.
You actually put a lot less total heat into the gun that way.

F-me! A heat gun will work. It just takes longer. Do you really think it is wise to tell people to use a fricken torch to loosen up their buffer tube? Really?

Only because you don't stake.

I love how your response impugns our process because some armchair commando somewhere said that the only way to manufacture the firearm was to stake it. Obviously our process works VERY WELL, or we would not be having this point of discussion. Besides, there is nothing more unsightly, in my opinion, than marking up a brand new firearm.

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[NorcalGSG]

F-me! A heat gun will work. It just takes longer. Do you really think it is wise to tell people to use a fricken torch to loosen up their buffer tube? Really?



I love how your response impugns our process because some armchair commando somewhere said that the only way to manufacture the firearm was to stake it. Obviously our process works VERY WELL, or we would not be having this point of discussion. Besides, there is nothing more unsightly, in my opinion, than marking up a brand new firearm.

Look who you're talking to

[newbieLA]

Your gunsmith is not qualified enough to be working on guns if he uses a heat gun instead of a torch to try to remove loctite.
Heat guns are too wimpy and therefore too slow so you end up heating everything up, but not getting it hot enough to actually breakdown the loctite.
A torch is more powerful so you can heat up a much smaller area to 400 degrees very quickly and then stop applying heat.
You actually put a lot less total heat into the gun that way.

Dude not true. I've used a heat gun to break red loctite.

[jimbo74]

Dude not true. I've used a heat gun to break red loctite.

I used the heat generated by my sexiness to pop my buffer tube off. And the channel locks, with a red rag. Sold it to a user here.

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[abinsinia]

I found a CA7 online, $1700 + $35 shipping ..

https://gunprime.com/products/franklin-armory-ca7-5-56-nato-ca-ok-10-1-rd-capacity-nib-3130

Talk about pandemic pricing, must be the California legal situation taking hold in addition..

[LateBraking]

Sorry if a dupe post, just wanted to post this in case Franklin/other folks were not aware.

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/das-office-san-francisco-deputy-charged-for-carrying-illegal-assault-weapon-into-city-hall/

[franklinarmory]

Sorry if a dupe post, just wanted to post this in case Franklin/other folks were not aware.

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/...nto-city-hall/

I was made aware of the case by staff this evening. However, there are a lot of unknowns. Did it have a DFM or some other fixed magazine? Was the deputy in process of registering an AW? Was the deputy allowed to have the firearm at city hall?

[dummykid]

Yep, i want to read more detail on this. it may not have fix mag and mag would be more than 10rd.

[559nFree]

I hope a big time lawyer comes to his defense. I do hope it was fixed mag. It would be nice to have a positive precedence on this issue. I was just about to pull the trigger on a CA7.

***I do have one question for those using the Law Tactical adapter. Does the bolt extender interefere with your ability to use a fixed mag? What type of fixed mag device are you using that works with it? This is pretty much the thing I need to know as i wanna make it compact. I would really appreciate a clear answer as I have found conflicting info in the thread.

[Nimbalo]

I was made aware of the case by staff this evening. However, there are a lot of unknowns. Did it have a DFM or some other fixed magazine? Was the deputy in process of registering an AW? Was the deputy allowed to have the firearm at city hall?

Quoting something I saw over on the CA guns reddit.

"I am going to go out on a limb and assume it was not maglocked after being converted to semi auto, which would make sense with the language they used.

"The pistol was a legal weapon that was registered to Rosales, but prosecutors said it had “been modified for use as a semi-automatic weapon with features that make it an illegal assault weapon under California law.””

Focus seems to be on the AW features on a semi auto pistol (not the conversion itself) which would not be an issue if it was maglocked.

For those worried about their converted pistols (correct me if I am wrong) an "unsafe handgun" is not an assault weapon, In no way would a converted CA7 with a maglock be an AW. right?

Also, do cops have to follow unsafe handgun laws? That answer could settle this quick

If no, then we know it's an AW issue."


Googled their quoted section, looks like this is the article they were referring to: https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/depu...iminal-charge/

[waygeekierthanu]

Officers do not have to follow unsafe handgun laws as they are exempt. Assault weapons are completely different game though, they absolutely have to follow those

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[GunnEnvy]

So odd why a deputy that is exempt from the roster will go the route of a ca7 to acquire an AR pistol. Being exempt why not purchase a lower receiver and dros as a handgun? It would be cheaper that way. Understood he still needs to follow AW laws and it would have to be fixed mag.


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[Nimbalo]

Officers do not have to follow unsafe handgun laws as they are exempt. Assault weapons are completely different game though, they absolutely have to follow those

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So then the single shot to semi auto conversion can't be the issue.

[waygeekierthanu]

So then the single shot to semi auto conversion can't be the issue.

Agreed, so two options as I see it. Overzealous DA that doesn't understand it..

Didn't maglock it, which even officers have to do

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