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  • LEAD LAUNCHER
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 1938

    Originally posted by franklinarmory
    They should not be DROSing it as a single shot exempt. It is best to work with the dealer to set that straight before you process the transaction. Even so, it would not change the fact that it is a lab tested gun.

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    • sfvshooter
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 1196

      It's not uncommon for the buyer to know more than the person working at the LGS.

      If you read this thread (I know, it's 28 pages long), you would've known to make sure it's DROS'd as a bolt action pistol.

      When I went to DROS mine, even though it was at a store I'd been to dozens of times and they're pretty knowledgeable, I made sure the paperwork stated bolt action pistol.
      Too many rifles, not enough time...

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      • Skybot
        Member
        • Sep 2019
        • 127

        [QUOTE=Peahi2;24440889]I just received my 9mm upper from CMMG this past week and finally took it out to the range. Wow! Super fun to shoot and a very soft shooter!...quite tame in fact.

        Peahi2, Glad to hear it was a blast!

        I can hardly wait to get my CMMG upper, I just ordered it and website said some items could take 10 weeks to ship. Hoping that is not the case with this, but if so, 9 weeks to go!

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        • newbieLA
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2018
          • 593

          This thread has been very helpful, thank you to all who've contributed. I just DROS'd my CA7 this morning and based on the information in this thread I made sure it was documented as a Handgun / Bolt Action.

          Looking forward to getting this home and setup with all the new parts in hand
          Last edited by newbieLA; 07-17-2020, 1:19 PM.

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          • Skybot
            Member
            • Sep 2019
            • 127

            Help with Pistol Brace on CA7

            Hi All,

            I want to put a pistol brace on my CA7. I was looking at the SBA3 brace but see that the buffer tube needs to be changed. I would need to get a castle nut and various other tools to remove the current tube. I like the brace, however, for now, I would like to keep the buffer tube as is and was wondering if there is a simple brace that actually just fits the CA7 Buffer tube without having to change it?

            Thanks

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            • Elshauno
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 59

              Originally posted by Skybot
              Hi All,

              I want to put a pistol brace on my CA7. I was looking at the SBA3 brace but see that the buffer tube needs to be changed. I would need to get a castle nut and various other tools to remove the current tube. I like the brace, however, for now, I would like to keep the buffer tube as is and was wondering if there is a simple brace that actually just fits the CA7 Buffer tube without having to change it?

              Thanks
              Foxtrot mike pistol brace should work, $20 on primary arms and should slide onto your pistol tube

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              • franklinarmory
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Nov 2009
                • 1892

                Originally posted by Skybot
                Hi All,

                I want to put a pistol brace on my CA7. I was looking at the SBA3 brace but see that the buffer tube needs to be changed. I would need to get a castle nut and various other tools to remove the current tube. I like the brace, however, for now, I would like to keep the buffer tube as is and was wondering if there is a simple brace that actually just fits the CA7 Buffer tube without having to change it?

                Thanks
                The tube size is fairly standard throughout the industry, so any common product like the SB Tactical SBM4 will work: https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sbm4/
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                • Skybot
                  Member
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 127

                  Thank you FA for the response. I actually do have another question. I brought my CA7 to a gunsmith in order to put on a sling attachment. He used a heat gun and put it in a vice, but he said he could not remove it. He was worried about using more than 40 pounds or pressure or torque and was afraid that the lower might crack. He suggested that I send it back to Franklin Armory to have it loosened so that I can put on a sling attachment.
                  He even used some loosening agent or oil and still no luck. Had to use some para-cord around the buffer tube as a temporary fix for my clip sling.

                  Your thoughts?

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                  • Skybot
                    Member
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 127

                    Thanks ElShauno, I will look into that brace!

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                    • franklinarmory
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1892

                      Originally posted by Skybot
                      Thank you FA for the response. I actually do have another question. I brought my CA7 to a gunsmith in order to put on a sling attachment. He used a heat gun and put it in a vice, but he said he could not remove it. He was worried about using more than 40 pounds or pressure or torque and was afraid that the lower might crack. He suggested that I send it back to Franklin Armory to have it loosened so that I can put on a sling attachment.
                      He even used some loosening agent or oil and still no luck. Had to use some para-cord around the buffer tube as a temporary fix for my clip sling.

                      Your thoughts?
                      As noted further back in the thread, we do not stake our castle nuts. Instead, we use Vibratite. In order to remove the buffer tube, you would need use a heat gun and carefully wrench it off with a strap wrench. You will very easily damage your buffer tube if you are not careful.

                      I do not recommend that consumers perform this work at home, and our manual clearly states that you SHOULD NOT add heat to the firearm. Too much heat is just as much a problem as too little, and we can't give direction and training over a thread. Your gunsmith should have been successful, so I would suggest a different gunsmith on your next attempt.
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                      • dilznik
                        Member
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 137

                        FA, I have to say, I love my CA7, I wish I could afford to get 3 more, I love what you're doing for Californians, my CA7 is far and away my favorite gun.

                        But that buffer tube is a pain in the *** to get off. Is the vibratite necessary? Maybe a little blue locktite knowing that people are going to take it off anyway?

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                        • jimbo74
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 2923

                          My buffer tube came off with no issues. Just used a red shop rag and a pair of channel locks

                          Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
                          "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

                          CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
                          ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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                          • franklinarmory
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 1892

                            Originally posted by dilznik
                            FA, I have to say, I love my CA7, I wish I could afford to get 3 more, I love what you're doing for Californians, my CA7 is far and away my favorite gun.

                            But that buffer tube is a pain in the *** to get off. Is the vibratite necessary? Maybe a little blue locktite knowing that people are going to take it off anyway?
                            The type of Vibratite we use is equivalent to blue loctite. ...and yes it is necessary.
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                            ONLINE STORE: http://franklinarmory.com
                            Franklin Armory - Manufacturer of Quality, California Legal AR's, the F17 Series rimfire rifles in 17 WSM, the Drop-in Fixed Magazine (DFM), and the CA7, CA11, and CA12 Rostered AR Pistols!

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                            • ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 56937

                              Originally posted by Skybot
                              Thank you FA for the response. I actually do have another question. I brought my CA7 to a gunsmith in order to put on a sling attachment. He used a heat gun and put it in a vice, but he said he could not remove it. He was worried about using more than 40 pounds or pressure or torque and was afraid that the lower might crack. He suggested that I send it back to Franklin Armory to have it loosened so that I can put on a sling attachment.
                              He even used some loosening agent or oil and still no luck. Had to use some para-cord around the buffer tube as a temporary fix for my clip sling.

                              Your thoughts?
                              Your gunsmith is not qualified enough to be working on guns if he uses a heat gun instead of a torch to try to remove loctite.
                              Heat guns are too wimpy and therefore too slow so you end up heating everything up, but not getting it hot enough to actually breakdown the loctite.
                              A torch is more powerful so you can heat up a much smaller area to 400 degrees very quickly and then stop applying heat.
                              You actually put a lot less total heat into the gun that way.
                              Randall Rausch

                              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                              • ar15barrels
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 56937

                                Originally posted by franklinarmory
                                The type of Vibratite we use is equivalent to blue loctite. ...and yes it is necessary.
                                Only because you don't stake.
                                Randall Rausch

                                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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