San Joaquin

[blown57due]

Talked to John Palmer last week. Was told to hold off applying. Sheriff Moore is issuing very few CCW's and most have restrictions now.

[G17GUY]

I am a CCW holder from Stanislaus County and recently moved to San Joaquin Valley so I am not looking forward to the reciprocity deal (cause there is none). In my good cause statement, I was warned NOT to use the "self defense" claim as Law Enforcement views the public as a bunch of skally-wags that don't know the difference between self defense and you stepped on my toes. Therefore, on my CCW Application, my good cause statement was worded as, "I work in the field of Loss Prevention and arrest a large number of confirmed Norteno gang members, 3rd strikers, and suspects with violent backgrounds. I have been the subject of numerous death threats, I have been attacked by a confirmed MOB gangster (case # _____), and because I live within walking distance of the Modesto Mall on Dale Rd I routinely run into these individuals and have been recognized off-duty on many many occasions. I do not promote violence, I am not a proponent for shooting my fellow man, however I have come to realize that these incidents happen within seconds and Law Enfocement averages a 4 minute response time on a good day."
This was enough to get my permit granted. My employer, who donates over $2,000 a year to the Sheriff, also wrote me a Letter of Recommendation, which did seem to help.
I hope this info helps. Keep plugging along.

You could have put "personal protection outside the home" and achieved the same results in stanislaus county. You wouldn't have needed a letter from your employer or his donation money.

good luck with that in San Joaquin county.

[Lancear15]

I'm still waiting to find out what penalty the Sheriff faces for not responding to my application within in the 90 days required by law..... apparently none.

It's good to be king, isn't it...

[wildhawker]

I'm still waiting to find out what penalty the Sheriff faces for not responding to my application within in the 90 days required by law..... apparently none.

It's good to be king, isn't it...

I can tell you that SJ Co. is in touch - recall that we sent a demand late last year - and working on some real improvements.

I'll share more when I can.

-Brandon

[fw10ring]

Thank you Brandon

[Kid Stanislaus]

The wheels of justice turn slowly, oh so frutratingly slowly!

[hoffmang]

The wheels of justice turn slowly, oh so frutratingly slowly!

But now they turn in the proper direction.

-Gene

[The Lone Gunmen]

Hey all, I'm new here, but I've already got a dozen people lined up for the grassroots letter to the city counsel.

Who Dares, Wins!

[Kid Stanislaus]

But now they turn in the proper direction.

-Gene

Keep'm roll'n Gene, keep'm roll'n!

[DRAB_81]

Sarcasm Delete...

[Crf450ridermx]

New member here. Just wanted to say THANK YOU to all you Cal Gun members that are helping get this effort going. Ive sent 2 letters and im on stand by for the good news to come!

[steersnstripes19]

Unconstitutional

I know this is probably a stupid question... but when does the law ever make any sense....? The 2nd Ammendment makes no mention of limiting the type of firearm, amunition, or quantity of firearms a person can carry; nor does it have any language prohibiting any future weapons not yet perceived or prohibit we the people from any specific method of carrying or bearing firearms.

That being said how are any of the laws passed in our state banning firearms, limiting use, or our various counties requiring we apply for CCW's and then denying us of our CCW's legal let alone Constitutional? Why isn't it easier to sue over or over turn these nonsensical and unconstitutional laws on that basis alone? Is it really only left wing politics and stupidity that keep these laws in force?

Any Explanations?

[MatthewG]

I have sent PMs to the "people of influence" in this area regarding my LTC application. If one of you could please contact me I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!

[Lancear15]

I know this is probably a stupid question... but when does the law ever make any sense....? The 2nd Ammendment makes no mention of limiting the type of firearm, amunition, or quantity of firearms a person can carry; nor does it have any language prohibiting any future weapons not yet perceived or prohibit we the people from any specific method of carrying or bearing firearms.

That being said how are any of the laws passed in our state banning firearms, limiting use, or our various counties requiring we apply for CCW's and then denying us of our CCW's legal let alone Constitutional? Why isn't it easier to sue over or over turn these nonsensical and unconstitutional laws on that basis alone? Is it really only left wing politics and stupidity that keep these laws in force?

Any Explanations?

This isn't really the right thread to go into how state and federal laws work. It has to do with incorporation... or lack there of.

See: Incorporation of the Bill of Rights.

There is a LOT to learn here as far as firearms and firearms related laws. WAY to much to get into. Browse around and do a lot of reading. Take care.

[MatthewG]

I have sent PMs to the "people of influence" in this area regarding my LTC application. If one of you could please contact me I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!

Anyone?