San Joaquin

[bst1208]

When one submits to a Live Scan, background check is processed by the DOJ within 48-72 hrs, all automated/computerized with no technician intervention, unless they find matching records with your fingerprints or other technical stuff like wrong information submitted, in which case they are done manually. http://oag.ca.gov/fingerprints

So, if you have a clean record (most if not all of us legal gun owners do), then our background check results should be already on file within 30 days.

So how do we know if and when they even submitted the applicant's criminal background check to the Department of Justice, or when they received the results from the DOJ? From the statutory language you cited, they have up to 30 days after that to inform an applicant of their decision. For all we know, they might be so backlogged that they're waiting 6 months to even submit the background check to the DOJ.

[jkody]

Have there been any approvals yet from June interview dates? My investigator told me it takes 3 to 4 months for the background info to be received from DOJ just for them to start the process.

[92Fatboy]

I too, am aware of the law but chose not to pursue it. Yes, they are in complete violation of the law, but quoting the penal code to the investigators and/or deputies in the office will not end well. Simply said, they will issue you a letter of denial likely on the grounds that they have not been able to complete your background investigation. Even if that story is ****, it doesn't matter. California is still a "may issue" state and Sheriff Moore doesn't have to sign off on any permit if he has even the slightest thought that it wouldn't be a good idea.

Again, that doesn't make it right, but its what we have to work with. Even though they are painfully slow, at least we are getting approvals.

[Mayor McRifle]

I went to my favorite FFL last Saturday to do a PPT, and my conversation with one of the employees there somehow shifted to my CCW application, and when he found out that I was interviewed more than 3 months ago, he gave me a Post-It note with the following CA Penal Code to look up: California PC 26205. Which says:

The licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant indicating if the license under this article is approved or denied. The licensing authority shall give this notice within 90 days of the initial application for a new license or a license renewal, or 30 days after receipt of the applicant's criminal background check from the Department of Justice, whichever is later. If the license is denied, the notice shall state which requirement was not satisfied.

He told me to go to the Sheriff's office and politely ask for my permit, tell them that I know about this law and they should issue it right there, since they are already breaking the law. He also said that they have already finished my background check after they processed my Live Scan, and should have that already done.

Knowing this is one thing, but actually doing it...? I don't know.

So how do we know if and when they even submitted the applicant's criminal background check to the Department of Justice, or when they received the results from the DOJ? From the statutory language you cited, they have up to 30 days after that to inform an applicant of their decision. For all we know, they might be so backlogged that they're waiting 6 months to even submit the background check to the DOJ.

[1youngblood1]

When I applied in Sept I was told to call back in 4-5 months. Some friends interviewed at the end of December. They were told to call back if they hadn't received a response by Jan or Feb. They were also told that the courts had instructed the sheriff's office to speed up the issuing process in order to stay inline with the law. They stated they were continuing to hire people to help that process. Obviously it will take some time to work thru the backlog to catch back up.

[09rubicon]

I went to my favorite FFL last Saturday to do a PPT, and my conversation with one of the employees there somehow shifted to my CCW application, and when he found out that I was interviewed more than 3 months ago, he gave me a Post-It note with the following CA Penal Code to look up: California PC 26205. Which says:



He told me to go to the Sheriff's office and politely ask for my permit, tell them that I know about this law and they should issue it right there, since they are already breaking the law. He also said that they have already finished my background check after they processed my Live Scan, and should have that already done.

Knowing this is one thing, but actually doing it...? I don't know.

This has been discussed in depth here before. I dont suggest you go that route. There are some other issues at play. While what the IA is doing may be wrong, we fight it in the courts, going in and demanding your permit will be a very quick way to get a denial. Be patient as others have and chances are good things will come to those that wait. Also keep abreast of all the currrent littigation and support where you can.

[bst1208]

I went to my favorite FFL last Saturday to do a PPT, and my conversation with one of the employees there somehow shifted to my CCW application, and when he found out that I was interviewed more than 3 months ago, he gave me a Post-It note with the following CA Penal Code to look up: California PC 26205. Which says:

The licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant indicating if the license under this article is approved or denied. The licensing authority shall give this notice within 90 days of the initial application for a new license or a license renewal, or 30 days after receipt of the applicant's criminal background check from the Department of Justice, whichever is later. If the license is denied, the notice shall state which requirement was not satisfied.

He told me to go to the Sheriff's office and politely ask for my permit, tell them that I know about this law and they should issue it right there, since they are already breaking the law. He also said that they have already finished my background check after they processed my Live Scan, and should have that already done.

Knowing this is one thing, but actually doing it...? I don't know.

[slipknot95758]

From the my self and the other who had to meet I heard after one week and the other heard after two so hopefully soon

[mbz dr]

I got a call back and was told need to come down to meet sheriff. He want to go over the application. I see him Tuesday if all go as plan .. hope I will have good updat after the meeting. Wish me luck..

[Nor*Cal]

They quickly went back to more than one day at week the third week of May. So they period of time where they only interviewed one day a week was short lived. Unfortunately that should make it slow back down again.

Yeah, I was thinking about that after I posted. After further thought, I do not think they went back to a single day per week at all. I believe they went from 3 days in April down to 2 days per week in May which should make things move faster.

[Shootslikeagirl]

They quickly went back to more than one day at week the third week of May. So they period of time where they only interviewed one day a week was short lived. Unfortunately that should make it slow back down again.

[Nor*Cal]

Good to know! That leads me to believe they are moving much quicker, considering I called in on 1/22 and they said they were working on May 20th apps, or the gal on the phone didn't give me an accurate date. For them to complete almost a month worth of apps in less than a week is hard to believe based on their current track record. I hope that's the case but I won't get too excited.

When they got bombarded with calls for appointments in March and early April, they went from interviewing 1 day per week to 3 days per week. This started in April and I believe in early May, they went back to 1 day per week of interviews.

Now that they seem to have gotten passed the April and early or mid May bottleneck, we should see things move a bit faster.

I hope!

[silversubie]

Good to know! That leads me to believe they are moving much quicker, considering I called in on 1/22 and they said they were working on May 20th apps, or the gal on the phone didn't give me an accurate date. For them to complete almost a month worth of apps in less than a week is hard to believe based on their current track record. I hope that's the case but I won't get too excited.

[slipknot95758]

No problem on the specifics any other questions feel free to ask.

I went the weekend of June 14th and 15th

[silversubie]

Slipknot,

What day in June did you go?