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  • #76
    Saym14
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2009
    • 7892

    I just wish it was this EASY in LA county!!!!

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    • #77
      glock21fan
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 839

      Ok I want to apply for my permit in san bernardino county. I live in the sheriff jurisdiction so I will be applying at the headquarters.

      here are my questions

      What makes good cause

      do they care about credit

      I have a almost 3 year old speeding ticket that was paid not contested

      I understand they talk to neighbors, what if I dont want the gangbangers 3 doors down to know im carrying a weapon

      and they want to know contact with law enforcement...Ive been in security I do have a EXPOSED permit for work. I have made arrests but cant remember every time ive had contact with law enforcement.

      Please give some input I want to know what the odds are before I throw money at this.

      thank you

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      • #78
        rob474
        Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 246

        these are good question^^^^^^^^^^^^ i would be interested myself
        now i live in rancho cucamonga does anyone know where i need to go to apply
        thank you
        rob
        sigpic proud to be a calguns member

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        • #79
          PsychGuy274
          Veteran Member
          • May 2010
          • 4289

          Originally posted by glock21fan
          Ok I want to apply for my permit in san bernardino county. I live in the sheriff jurisdiction so I will be applying at the headquarters.

          here are my questions

          What makes good cause

          do they care about credit

          I have a almost 3 year old speeding ticket that was paid not contested

          I understand they talk to neighbors, what if I dont want the gangbangers 3 doors down to know im carrying a weapon

          and they want to know contact with law enforcement...Ive been in security I do have a EXPOSED permit for work. I have made arrests but cant remember every time ive had contact with law enforcement.

          Please give some input I want to know what the odds are before I throw money at this.

          thank you
          1) Nothing specifically makes 'good cause.' The CS Penal Code only states '...to establish that good cause exists.' That's why we are 'may issue' which means it's up tot he Sheriff's discretion whether you have 'good cause' to carry a concealed handgun or not.

          2) To the best of my knowledge they do not check financial history. Either on the state (CA DOJ) or county (Sheriff) level. Some Sheriffs might require it, but it's illegal for them to do so. SBC does not. Either way, a speeding ticket will not disqualify you.

          3) SBSD requires three contacts to provide 'character references' in the form of letters and four contacts for them to call and ask questions about you. These are illegal requirements, but they still require them. I'm working directly with CGF on fixing this.

          4) When they say 'contact with law enforcement' they want to know if you've been stopped, detained, arrested, questioned, etc. Working with LE doesn't fall under that. Example: I myself used to work for a LEA, but outside of work and prior to employment I never had contact with law enforcement. Get it?

          5) Odds are good for San Bernardino in general. They typically take 'For self defense' as good cause. My prediction is that if you apply, you'll get the permit. The only thing is that they have a lot of illegal requirements. If you're willing to deal with that, then apply. If not, then wait until further notice in this thread.

          If you have any other questions, send me a PM.
          I am a law enforcement officer in the state of Colorado. Nothing I post is legal advice of any kind.

          CLICK HERE for a San Diego County WIN!

          CLICK HERE to read my research review on the fight-or-flight response and its application to firearm training

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          • #80
            PsychGuy274
            Veteran Member
            • May 2010
            • 4289

            Originally posted by rob474
            these are good question^^^^^^^^^^^^ i would be interested myself
            now i live in rancho cucamonga does anyone know where i need to go to apply
            thank you
            rob
            You apply to San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office.
            I am a law enforcement officer in the state of Colorado. Nothing I post is legal advice of any kind.

            CLICK HERE for a San Diego County WIN!

            CLICK HERE to read my research review on the fight-or-flight response and its application to firearm training

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            • #81
              rob474
              Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 246

              Originally posted by PsychGuy274
              You apply to San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office.
              thank you psychguy274
              thanks
              rob
              sigpic proud to be a calguns member

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              • #82
                PsychGuy274
                Veteran Member
                • May 2010
                • 4289

                Originally posted by rob474
                thank you psychguy274
                thanks
                rob
                No prob, I always sling love out to my brothers in Rancho. I was born and raised there. I just recently moved out to Colorado. Send me a PM if you need anymore info about applying. I'm working directly with CGF on SBC.
                I am a law enforcement officer in the state of Colorado. Nothing I post is legal advice of any kind.

                CLICK HERE for a San Diego County WIN!

                CLICK HERE to read my research review on the fight-or-flight response and its application to firearm training

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                • #83
                  WASR10
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2455

                  I appreciate this thread. And you, PsychGuy274. I am taking the 16 hours required class this September and plan to apply for the CCW (or LTC, if you prefer) immdiately following. I have also been in contact with http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/ which has been a wealth of info.

                  I wonder, are they good to take advice from? They have a lot to say about California concealed carry.

                  Anyway, my 2nd planned carry gun should be out of jail in a few days and I am excited to begin the process.

                  God Bless.

                  J.
                  Mark 16:16

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                  • #84
                    PsychGuy274
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 4289

                    Originally posted by xcrooksx
                    I appreciate this thread. And you, PsychGuy274. I am taking the 16 hours required class this September and plan to apply for the CCW (or LTC, if you prefer) immdiately following. I have also been in contact with http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/ which has been a wealth of info.

                    I wonder, are they good to take advice from? They have a lot to say about California concealed carry.

                    Anyway, my 2nd planned carry gun should be out of jail in a few days and I am excited to begin the process.

                    God Bless.

                    J.
                    There's some drama between that site and this site. I don't really want to get into it, but whatever gets you a LTC is your best bet IMHO.

                    If you have questions just PM me.
                    I am a law enforcement officer in the state of Colorado. Nothing I post is legal advice of any kind.

                    CLICK HERE for a San Diego County WIN!

                    CLICK HERE to read my research review on the fight-or-flight response and its application to firearm training

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                    • #85
                      rob474
                      Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 246

                      ok where can we take that class i didn't realize we need to take a 16 hour class
                      thank you
                      rob
                      sigpic proud to be a calguns member

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                      • #86
                        MatrixCPA
                        Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 173

                        New to the forum - hi.

                        If I have completed PC832 and Lvl II reserve officer training (admittedly 20 years ago) with SBC sheriff, do I still need the new license class? My thought would be that I do both because the training was *cough* when I was much younger and the application states a "specified course". However, there's no harm is asking for a few other opinions.


                        The second amendment of the United States Constitution is not a "loophole". -- California State Senator Doug La Malfa

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                        • #87
                          Knauga
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1383

                          Originally posted by xcrooksx
                          I appreciate this thread. And you, PsychGuy274. I am taking the 16 hours required class this September and plan to apply for the CCW (or LTC, if you prefer) immdiately following. I have also been in contact with http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/ which has been a wealth of info.

                          DO NOT TAKE ANY CLASS PRIOR TO APPLYING. SBSD has their own class, it is the only one they accept. It is 8 hours, used to be 4ish and $25.

                          If you have a desire to take other classes for information or shooting training, that is fine, but don't do it and think that it will count for anything with SBSD.

                          ETA, Billy Jack (AKA Preston Guillory concealedcarry.com) IS a wealth of information, not so much for San Bernardino County. If you live in an area that does not issue or won't without a fight he is a great source of information on proper tactics in documenting your application and documenting other good cause that has worked in that jurisdiction. In this case you would be going in with a baseball bat ready to fight when all you really need is to ask for the application.
                          Last edited by Knauga; 08-22-2011, 9:03 AM.

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                          • #88
                            Knauga
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1383

                            My answers in bold

                            Originally posted by glock21fan
                            Ok I want to apply for my permit in san bernardino county. I live in the sheriff jurisdiction so I will be applying at the headquarters.

                            here are my questions

                            What makes good cause Personal Protection

                            do they care about credit No

                            I have a almost 3 year old speeding ticket that was paid not contested Not an issue

                            I understand they talk to neighbors, what if I dont want the gangbangers 3 doors down to know im carrying a weapon I would discuss this with them during the interview.

                            and they want to know contact with law enforcement...Ive been in security I do have a EXPOSED permit for work. I have made arrests but cant remember every time ive had contact with law enforcement. Ironically this will probably cause you the most grief. Not the contact with law enforcement, the working security. Just point out that you have no intention of using the CCW for employment purposes. They will make you sign a piece of paper to that effect anyway. In the past people have been denied outright if they thought that the license was going to be used at work and had to fight them to get them to issue.

                            Please give some input I want to know what the odds are before I throw money at this.

                            thank you
                            The process is slow and fairly invasive. I would like to see that changed. They do issue as long as you jump through the hoops and you don't have any skeletons hanging around in your closet.

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                            • #89
                              Knauga
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 1383

                              Originally posted by MatrixCPA
                              New to the forum - hi.

                              If I have completed PC832 and Lvl II reserve officer training (admittedly 20 years ago) with SBC sheriff, do I still need the new license class? My thought would be that I do both because the training was *cough* when I was much younger and the application states a "specified course". However, there's no harm is asking for a few other opinions.
                              They will require you to take their class.

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                              • #90
                                Knauga
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 1383

                                Originally posted by Cokebottle
                                And don't forget... SBC needs more sponsors.
                                We're currently sitting on only FOUR individual sponsors for a total of $600... and $300 of that $600 was my contribution (and will likely be sending a similar contrib next spring).

                                We've got no vendor sponsors yet.

                                So while some counties are sitting on having met or exceeded their goals, we're not even close... at $600 of a total of $3600 needed.

                                So spread the word and let's get some people opening their wallets to actually do something to help further our goals.
                                Laws don't change themselves, and lawyers aren't cheap!
                                What it this? I donate to CGF through payroll deduction. How does one become a sponsor?

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