San Bernardino

[PsychGuy274]

I was just looking at the SB County Local CCW Policy, Guidelines & Forms page and it looks to me like it changed because I no longer see the requirement for the three CCW references. I see the requirement for the four personal references is still there. Did something change or am I missing it.

http://calgunsfoundation.org/downloads/documents/SanBernardino.pdf

Also, if the standard DOJ application is what they are supposed to use why is their application so involved. Work history, residence history, traffic tickets, etc.

The character reference requirement is still there on page 2 of the CCW Application Instructions page.

I'm currently working on SBC with CGF.

[Cokebottle]

I no longer see the requirement for the three CCW references.

I don't recall there ever being a requirement for references from 3 others who hold a valid CCW. At least, that's not been the case since 2005 when I first looked into the requirements.

[PsychGuy274]

I don't recall there ever being a requirement for references from 3 others who hold a valid CCW. At least, that's not been the case since 2005 when I first looked into the requirements.

There's no requirement to have references from people who hold a CCW. I think he means references FOR a CCW.

[NVR2L8]

I finally got off my butt and provided some monetary support for all the hard work regarding San Bernardino County. Looking forward to hearing some good news soon...

[kingsfan8888]

-What do the letters on my behalf need to say?
-I have my references and printed the online PDF file. Where do I list my 4 references and what information do I need?
-What amount money order do I need when I drop off my application?

[jaymz]

Any idea when SBCounty will be listed as "time to apply"? Weeks (anything but "two weeks"!), months, years?

[wildhawker]

Any idea when SBCounty will be listed as "time to apply"? Weeks (anything but "two weeks"!), months, years?

We're very close to working on the SB policy issues. Those who don't mind the hoops the SBSO have applicants jump through should feel free to apply now.

[Cokebottle]

We're very close to working on the SB policy issues. Those who don't mind the hoops the SBSO have applicants jump through should feel free to apply now.

Not yet.

Just got a new neighbor and he's currently in the category of "I don't want him to know that I own guns, much less am applying for CCW"

He's older and seems like a nice guy, but still has a bit of the "banger" look.


Thanks, but I'll wait until the hoops are cleared.

No, wait... we want to keep Hoops, at least he will issue for personal protection

[PsychGuy274]

Any idea when SBCounty will be listed as "time to apply"? Weeks (anything but "two weeks"!), months, years?

SBC is 'virtually' virtual shall issue so you have a fairly good chance of getting a CCW if you apply. HOWEVER, they do have a lot of illegal requirements. I am personally working on this matter with the CGF and I suggest you wait until I get in touch with them over these issues. Of course, if you don't mind the illegal requirements you could just apply now. Again though, I suggest you wait.

[Donny1]

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[Knauga]

I don't like some of the goofy policies at SBSD, but I would say that if you want your CCW you should apply. Department is very CCW friendly, but has always had a bit of a maverick attitude towards the way it does things.

Kingsfan, the letters can be as simple as "I have known kingsfan for x number of years. I know him to be of good character. I know he is applying for a license to carry a concealed weapon. If you need to contact me, I may be reached at 909-867-5309

Signed kingsfan's friend"

The only application they will accept is the one they give you. They number them. On the cover sheet it will include the amounts of the money orders and who they should be made out to. Letter writers get a phone call, references get a half page questionnaire. References don't need to be anybody special, just not relatives.

Cokebottle, during the interview just mention that the one neighbor looks a bit sketchy and you are worried about them knowing you have any guns. I think the neighborhood check is unnecessary, and they don't always do them, but the stubborn streak in the SD is about a mile wide, who knows how long it will take to change the policy. I appreciate those trying to correct the wrongs here, but don't let those wrongs stop you from applying if you want your CCW.

[jaymz]

If they'd not contact my employer, the rest I can deal with. HR people where I work are not gun friendly. I'm sure they'd freak out and I'd end up with much unwanted attention. I can wait a bit longer.

[Knauga]

I understand that. My boss's boss had a bit of a tizzy about it until our HR department told him it was none of his business as long as I followed company policy. HR departments are about staying within the law. Generally they will give you the least guff about things.

Ultimately it is a personal decision, I wish the SD didn't feel it necessary to do that thorough of a background investigation, or at least keep the CCW angle out of it and just call it part of a routine background investigation.

[G1500]

As far as contacting employers, what about folks who are currently unemployed? Do they skip that, or is it something that will be frowned upon?

[kel-tec-innovations]

What if I am the employer? unless they plan to call my employer like 6 years ago.