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  • #91
    WASR10
    • Aug 2011
    • 2455

    Originally posted by Knauga
    DO NOT TAKE ANY CLASS PRIOR TO APPLYING. SBSD has their own class, it is the only one they accept. It is 8 hours, used to be 4ish and $25.
    Wow, you just saved me $200, thanks! I have read the requirement for the class in the application process, then came across the class at Turner's. I will just begin the process then and take what class the SD presents.


    Glad you guys are here.
    Mark 16:16

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    • #92
      Cokebottle
      Seņor Member
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2009
      • 32373

      Originally posted by Knauga
      What it this? I donate to CGF through payroll deduction. How does one become a sponsor?
      Follow the link(s) on the two images in my signature

      The "long one" is the general CGF LTC site, and the SBDO is the direct link to the sponsorship page.

      Sponsorship is listed as $100, but of course you can pay more (I went $300 and will likely do the same next spring, it's my way of saying f-u to Obama and spending part of my "making work pay credit" on something that he hates).
      - Rich

      Originally posted by dantodd
      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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      • #93
        MatrixCPA
        Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 173

        Originally posted by Knauga
        They will require you to take their class.
        I figured that would be the case. No big deal. At least they don't charge much for it.


        The second amendment of the United States Constitution is not a "loophole". -- California State Senator Doug La Malfa

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        • #94
          MatrixCPA
          Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 173

          Donated


          The second amendment of the United States Constitution is not a "loophole". -- California State Senator Doug La Malfa

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          • #95
            M.Orozco
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 4

            I received my ccw from SBSO last week.

            I started the process the first week of December of 2010. I went to SBSO's HQ's at 655 E. Third St. San Bernardino, Ca. 92415 Tel. (909) 387-3750 to pick up a ccw app. Receptionist asked for my ID and asked if I had lived in SB County for more than a year. I said yes. She advised that I needed to apply with the PD since I lived in a city that had one and then gave me the green ccw packet/application.

            In my process I actually didn't apply with the PD. I wrote the CoP a letter asking him to write me a denial letter so that I may continue the process with SBSO. It took a little over a month but I finally got what I requested. I am extremely appreciative of what the CoP did for me. Saved me money and I'm sure some time.

            I then proceeded with the SBSO app. You must use the packet they issue. It is green in color, numbered, time and date stamped as well.

            I filled out the forms had my references and letters completed by the second week of February. I called SBSO's Employee Services Division for my interview and was scheduled for a May 3rd. Had a few months of a wait.

            Interview date finally came around. I went in and my firearms were inspected. I filled out some additional paperwork and questionnaire (don't think it was 100) and talked to the investigator. We went over some of the questions in the app, my GC statement signed some papers and it was over. (FYI, my GC statement was 4 paragraphs long. My investigator crossed all but that last paragraph out. I'm sure most of you in SB County can figure what it said). Investigator advised to tell my references to expect something from them within 2 weeks (I was called by 3 of my references on Friday the 6th and they told me they had received info asking questions about me...wow, 3 days later! That was quick). I then went to take a picture and do the live scan down the hall. Returned the paperwork from livescan back to the ccw office. I was then given information and paperwork about the ccw range training course. She said I would be contacted by phone in a few weeks since they did not have one scheduled at the time. The entire process of the interview was painless and not long at all. I believe I was in and out in under an hour. SBSO staff is very professional and helpful.

            I was contacted about 2 weeks later and scheduled a range day of June 18th. I went to the class which was an 8 hour course. 18000 Institution Rd. Devore, Ca. 92407 is the address for the range. Very informative if you've never been around or handled any type of firearm. Talked about some laws and safety. Most of us in the class brought our own lunch so we wouldn't stay longer. At the end of class portion we went over to the range and shot a total of 12 rounds per firearm at 7 yards. Again, the class was painless and the staff was great and fun. This is the only course SB County will accept.

            Received my permit on the 15th of August. As you can see, it took some time. Be patient if you choose to apply.

            Spent $252 not including ammo or firearm. 3 different money orders. One for $112 another for $110 (both due at the time of your interview) and the last for $30 due at the range.

            Time from start to finish 9 months.

            All in all a painless process. Just prepare to be patient!
            Last edited by M.Orozco; 08-24-2011, 4:00 PM.
            M. Orozco
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            • #96
              Knauga
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 1383

              When I did mine, I went to Staples and bought cheap green printer paper and used on online PDF file to fill out the application. If I had to do it by hand, I would have been dead, I am a child of the keyboard and type much better than I write

              Congrats and start packing!

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              • #97
                rob474
                Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 246

                great info i will be doing the same very soon thanks M.Orozco for the write up
                good info do you mine if i pm you with any question i might have
                thank you
                rob
                sigpic proud to be a calguns member

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                • #98
                  M.Orozco
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 4

                  Originally posted by Knauga
                  When I did mine, I went to Staples and bought cheap green printer paper and used on online PDF file to fill out the application. If I had to do it by hand, I would have been dead, I am a child of the keyboard and type much better than I write

                  Congrats and start packing!
                  I went to kinkos/fedex and printed a second copy in the same color just in case I screwed some of my paperwork up. I wanted to type it up but I had already finished writing everything in so I just turned it in. I'm glad my penmanship isn't too shabby.

                  Oh and thanks! Been packing for over a week now.
                  M. Orozco
                  US Navy Veteran
                  NRA Member
                  USCCA Member
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                  • #99
                    WASR10
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 2455

                    Thanks for the info M.Orozco. The process on paper seems so daunting, I am glad to hear first hand experiences such as this.
                    Mark 16:16

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                    • PsychGuy274
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 4289

                      Originally posted by M.Orozco
                      I received my ccw from SBSO last week.

                      I started the process the first week of December of 2010. I went to SBSO's HQ's at 655 E. Third St. San Bernardino, Ca. 92415 Tel. (909) 387-3750 to pick up a ccw app. Receptionist asked for my ID and asked if I had lived in SB County for more than a year. I said yes. She advised that I needed to apply with the PD since I lived in a city that had one and then gave me the green ccw packet/application.

                      In my process I actually didn't apply with the PD. I wrote the CoP a letter asking him to write me a denial letter so that I may continue the process with SBSO. It took a little over a month but I finally got what I requested. I am extremely appreciative of what the CoP did for me. Saved me money and I'm sure some time.

                      I then proceeded with the SBSO app. You must use the packet they issue. It is green in color, numbered, time and date stamped as well.

                      I filled out the forms had my references and letters completed by the second week of February. I called SBSO's Employee Services Division for my interview and was scheduled for a May 3rd. Had a few months of a wait.

                      Interview date finally came around. I went in and my firearms were inspected. I filled out some additional paperwork and questionnaire (don't think it was 100) and talked to the investigator. We went over some of the questions in the app, my GC statement signed some papers and it was over. (FYI, my GC statement was 4 paragraphs long. My investigator crossed all but that last paragraph out. I'm sure most of you in SB County can figure what it said). Investigator advised to tell my references to expect something from them within 2 weeks (I was called by 3 of my references on Friday the 6th and they told me they had received info asking questions about me...wow, 3 days later! That was quick). I then went to take a picture and do the live scan down the hall. Returned the paperwork from livescan back to the ccw office. I was then given information and paperwork about the ccw range training course. She said I would be contacted by phone in a few weeks since they did not have one scheduled at the time. The entire process of the interview was painless and not long at all. I believe I was in and out in under an hour. SBSO staff is very professional and helpful.

                      I was contacted about 2 weeks later and scheduled a range day of June 18th. I went to the class which was an 8 hour course. 18000 Institution Rd. Devore, Ca. 92407 is the address for the range. Very informative if you've never been around or handled any type of firearm. Talked about some laws and safety. Most of us in the class brought our own lunch so we wouldn't stay longer. At the end of class portion we went over to the range and shot a total of 12 rounds per firearm at 7 yards. Again, the class was painless and the staff was great and fun. This is the only course SB County will accept.

                      Received my permit on the 15th of August. As you can see, it took some time. Be patient if you choose to apply.

                      Spent $252 not including ammo or firearm. 3 different money orders. One for $112 another for $110 (both due at the time of your interview) and the last for $30 due at the range.

                      Time from start to finish 9 months.

                      All in all a painless process. Just prepare to be patient!
                      A lot of the things they required from you (e.g. extra paperwork, fees, references, etc) are actually illegal for them to require, but they do anyways.
                      I am a law enforcement officer in the state of Colorado. Nothing I post is legal advice of any kind.

                      CLICK HERE for a San Diego County WIN!

                      CLICK HERE to read my research review on the fight-or-flight response and its application to firearm training

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                      • jaymz
                        CGSSA Associate
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 6293

                        Originally posted by PsychGuy274
                        A lot of the things they required from you (e.g. extra paperwork, fees, references, etc) are actually illegal for them to require, but they do anyways.
                        I wonder if it would be wise to respectfully decline to provide the illegal requirements. What would happen if you were to get denied because you politely declined to comply with said illegal requirements?
                        War is when your Government tells you who the enemy is......

                        Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.

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                        • PsychGuy274
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 4289

                          Originally posted by jaymz
                          I wonder if it would be wise to respectfully decline to provide the illegal requirements. What would happen if you were to get denied because you politely declined to comply with said illegal requirements?
                          That'd be interesting to do with a copy of the CA Penal Code by your side.

                          As far as I'm concerned, if you don't actually want a CCW and just want to make a point, go for it. If you actually want a CCW, not such a good idea.

                          Either way, these requirement won't be in place for much longer.
                          I am a law enforcement officer in the state of Colorado. Nothing I post is legal advice of any kind.

                          CLICK HERE for a San Diego County WIN!

                          CLICK HERE to read my research review on the fight-or-flight response and its application to firearm training

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                          • jaymz
                            CGSSA Associate
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 6293

                            I really want it, but I don't want to deal with getting reference letters, employer/neighbor interviews etc. I think I may apply and instead of providing certain things, I'll put a "This page intentionally left blank per PCxxx" or something to that effect. I'm torn. Mostly have an issue with the employer interview. Not very gun
                            friendly in the HR Dept.
                            War is when your Government tells you who the enemy is......

                            Revolution is when you figure it out for yourself.

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                            • The Shadow
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 3213

                              Quite frankly, I don't care if some LEAs are voluntarily "Shall Issue". When will we get "Shall Issue" mandated by law ?

                              The point is, even if they have opted to freely issue, you still have to jump through their hoops, and are subject to their whims, tantrums, and, as is the case of Orange county, change of management.

                              I'm inclined to apply to San Bernardino and get rejected because I won't jump through their unlawful hoops. In other words, I would willingly stare them down and cast down the gauntlet after I smack them across the face with it.

                              I'll think about it and get back to you on it.
                              sigpic Speaking about the destruction of the United States. "I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all times, or die by suicide. Abraham Lincoln Speech at Edwardsville, IL, September 11, 1858

                              Godwin's law

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                              • JuzDuky
                                Junior Member
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 54

                                Originally posted by jaymz
                                What would happen if you were to get denied because you politely declined to comply with said illegal requirements?
                                For starters, this right here would happen

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