San Bernardino

[Daydrmr999]

That article is nearly a year old.

When he was campaigning a pro-McMahon poster said there were 1,200+ renewals done in that same year. With almost twice the number of people renewing than being issued new permits, the 360% number sounds very fishy. For it to be true, there should be very few renewals for that same year.

Oh, and by the way, the time did take around 90 days or less around election time. It's up to several months now. It's a coincidence how it came down just in time to gain some votes, then went back up.

Actually, they are probably basing the time frame on time of interview to ccw in hand, to keep the number low. If that is the case, then it is pretty much the same now.

[herdafer]

That article is nearly a year old.

When he was campaigning a pro-McMahon poster said there were 1,200+ renewals done in that same year. With almost twice the number of people renewing than being issued new permits, the 360% number sounds very fishy. For it to be true, there should be very few renewals for that same year.

Oh, and by the way, the time did take around 90 days or less around election time. It's up to several months now. It's a coincidence how it came down just in time to gain some votes, then went back up.

Based on what Captain Jon said at the CCW class they are doing two classes a month at AVGC of ~20 each day and two class a month in Devore of ~40 each day. That means there is about 1,400 new permits a year (Give or take).

[Nopal]

Based on what Captain Jon said at the CCW class they are doing two classes a month at AVGC of ~20 each day and two class a month in Devore of ~40 each day. That means there is about 1,400 new permits a year (Give or take).

Looking at those numbers, that does sound pretty good and it's more in keeping with what they had reported previously as far as renewals.

Thanks for the insight.

[Noonanda]

Submitted the Online application March 10th, got a call from Sara the next day, interview is on June 11th.

[herdafer]

Submitted the Online application March 10th, got a call from Sara the next day, interview is on June 11th.

Based on what I have seen in this thread, nearly everyone is given an interview date exactly three months after their application is submitted (or three months after they are called back from receiving their application).

If the Sheriff is so pro CCW then why don't they offer their interview date(s) closer than 90 days from the date the application is received? I am happy to have gone through the process and been approved, but I am curious why they push this date off so far for everyone.

[MiXoLoGiSt]

Based on what I have seen in this thread, nearly everyone is given an interview date exactly three months after their application is submitted (or three months after they are called back from receiving their application).



If the Sheriff is so pro CCW then why don't they offer their interview date(s) closer than 90 days from the date the application is received? I am happy to have gone through the process and been approved, but I am curious why they push this date off so far for everyone.

Because that's how far it's consistently backed up by. There's a lot of people applying and only 1400 people a year that can do the range qualification. I've seen stories where people spent a year trying to get their CCW when the sheriff first announced they were pro CCW because of the amount of applications that were submitted.

[Nopal]

Because that's how far it's consistently backed up by. There's a lot of people applying and only 1400 people a year that can do the range qualification. I've seen stories where people spent a year trying to get their CCW when the sheriff first announced they were pro CCW because of the amount of applications that were submitted.

I don't completely buy that. It sounds as if the people from Upland don't have that problem (they do their whole process, including qualification, in about 2-3 weeks with the same classes and ranges that the SBSD uses. From what I've gathered, at worst, some qualify about a month or so later). The main difference in the process is that Upland does not do the neighbor check, the contacting employers, and all the other games that SBSD plays. If the SBSD is backed up, then range time is only one contributing factor.

Before the sheriff announced "they were pro ccw" a couple of years back, the whole process still took several months, not because of classes, but because of the bloated application process. But, if indeed the class is a problem, is it possible for the sheriff to just accept range qualifications from other authorities/sources?

[MiXoLoGiSt]

San Bernardino

I don't completely buy that. It sounds as if the people from Upland don't have that problem (they do their whole process, including qualification, in about 2-3 weeks with the same classes and ranges that the SBSD uses. From what I've gathered, at worst, some qualify about a month or so later). The main difference in the process is that Upland does not do the neighbor check, the contacting employers, and all the other games that SBSD plays. If the SBSD is backed up, then range time is only one contributing factor.

Before the sheriff announced "they were pro ccw" a couple of years back, the whole process still took several months, not because of classes, but because of the bloated application process. But, if indeed the class is a problem, is it possible for the sheriff to just accept range qualifications from other authorities/sources?

Upland goes through the Upland Police Department. That's a completely different thing.

SBCSD is backed up because of the amount of applications being submitted along with the limited space in classes for qualification. Interviews are 3 months back logged right now which is why it's consistently 3 months from time of application. It's also 3-4 months back logged on range qualification. If there weren't so many applicants you could probably get an interview the same or following week your application is submitted, but SBCSD not only handles people who don't have a local PD, they also handle the people who's local PD won't issue them a CCW. San Bernardino is the largest county by area in the United States, so you can imagine what they have to handle compared to only a city PD.

[gwolff]

Current upland applicant chiming in-

I scheduled Feb 17th
Interviewed Feb 19th
Approved Feb 23rd
LiveScan March 11th
Pending Range Date April 11th

Whole process start to finish will be around 2 months I think.

[surreptitious]

Upland goes through the Upland Police Department. That's a completely different thing.

SBCSD is backed up because of the amount of applications being submitted along with the limited space in classes for qualification. Interviews are 3 months back logged right now which is why it's consistently 3 months from time of application. It's also 3-4 months back logged on range qualification. If there weren't so many applicants you could probably get an interview the same or following week your application is submitted, but SBCSD not only handles people who don't have a local PD, they also handle the people who's local PD won't issue them a CCW. San Bernardino is the largest county by area in the United States, so you can imagine what they have to handle compared to only a city PD.

Wouldn't that justify SBCSD hiring additional staff?

[herdafer]

Upland goes through the Upland Police Department. That's a completely different thing.

SBCSD is backed up because of the amount of applications being submitted along with the limited space in classes for qualification. Interviews are 3 months back logged right now which is why it's consistently 3 months from time of application. It's also 3-4 months back logged on range qualification. If there weren't so many applicants you could probably get an interview the same or following week your application is submitted, but SBCSD not only handles people who don't have a local PD, they also handle the people who's local PD won't issue them a CCW. San Bernardino is the largest county by area in the United States, so you can imagine what they have to handle compared to only a city PD.

I don't know where your information is coming from but I don't believe your numbers. I recently finished my 8-hour "training" and range qualification and it was scheduled for just over five weeks from the date I received the call stating I had passed background.

Considering you haven't had your interview yet, who told you the range qualification is back logged for 3-4 months?

[MiXoLoGiSt]

San Bernardino

Wouldn't that justify SBCSD hiring additional staff?

Most Definitely. I wish they would so I could get it faster lol.

I don't know where your information is coming from but I don't believe your numbers. I recently finished my 8-hour "training" and range qualification and it was scheduled for just over five weeks from the date I received the call stating I had passed background.

Considering you haven't had your interview yet, who told you the range qualification is back logged for 3-4 months?

The girls at the SBCSD employee resources division told me the process is about 6 months long right now so its a good time to apply. She said usually 3 months until you interview and 3 months after that for range qualification. No experience to go on here, just speaking on what I was told by them.

[Daydrmr999]

Upland goes through the Upland Police Department. That's a completely different thing.

SBCSD is backed up because of the amount of applications being submitted along with the limited space in classes for qualification. Interviews are 3 months back logged right now which is why it's consistently 3 months from time of application. It's also 3-4 months back logged on range qualification. If there weren't so many applicants you could probably get an interview the same or following week your application is submitted, but SBCSD not only handles people who don't have a local PD, they also handle the people who's local PD won't issue them a CCW. San Bernardino is the largest county by area in the United States, so you can imagine what they have to handle compared to only a city PD.

As herdafer said, range date is not backed up that far, it's seems to be more in the range of 4-6 weeks from approval to range date.

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[MiXoLoGiSt]

As herdafer said, range date is not backed up that far, it's seems to be more in the range of 4-6 weeks from approval to range date.

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Well that's good to hear. How long did it take from your appointment date to get the call of approval?

Also how long is it after the range qualification that they give you a call to pick up your permit?

[Daydrmr999]

Well that's good to hear. How long did it take from your appointment date to get the call of approval?

Also how long is it after the range qualification that they give you a call to pick up your permit?

Called June 5th or so for appointment
Sept 4th interview/livescan
??? Residence check???
October 14th cleared, scheduled range day
December 13th range day
December 23 permit ready and picked up