San Bernardino

[bnncld90]

I do go backpacking and camping in remote spots so I was thinking of putting for personal attention why I am traveling and camping and hiking because i go alome alot and in remote spots where there often isnt help.

[DrScorpio]

ok, I think im good it has the state seal and county seal on it and they both seem raise and seems to have all the proper signatures and everything.

Just to add my 2 cents, the birth certificate I brought was the original one from 1979. It had a seal that was a gold sticker, it was not a raised seal. I also happened to have the accompanying document from 1979 that certified the birth certificate and was stamped, but no raised seal.

When the interviewer saw the accompanying document, he made the comment of "ah, this is what we needed".

I have no idea what current birth certificates look like.

[Cokebottle]

ive been checking and double checking all my stuff today and everything looks good, caught a mistake or two. Certified birth certificate? I just have my certificate from the hospital.

It needs to be the official county cert with stamp.

If you were born in LA County after 1964, you can walk in and pick it up.
Before 1964, it's on fiche and has not yet been scanned... took 4 or 5 weeks to get mine.

[Cokebottle]

Also that by the time I renew, THAT process will also change. Overall a great experience with a very professional group of officers.

AWESOME!
I do not envy their job, plus the department is wanting to do a hiring push this year which will further increase their workload.

I should look into the requirements and pay... work there for the next 15 years until I retire.

[Cokebottle]

I do go backpacking and camping in remote spots so I was thinking of putting for personal attention why I am traveling and camping and hiking because i go alome alot and in remote spots where there often isnt help.

Relax.
This isn't LA or OC... you don't need some kind of extraordinary statement.

McMahon has stated on live interviews that if a person is not prohibited, and is of good moral character, the department WANTS to issue them a permit for self defense.

The more general you can be, the better.
Don't just say "Personal protection" (though that MAY be enough)... just include those two words in a simple, clear sentence.

My statement included only 13 words.
I don't even think she read the whole thing... "personal protection" was like the 2nd or 3rd word and I don't think she looked at it long enough to see anything more. Seriously... it was a glance, not even a "look"

I have no idea what current birth certificates look like.

They look exactly like any other formal state document... DMV title, marriage certificate, etc.... They simply photocopy your original cert onto the colored paper, then stamp it "Certified" and emboss it.

I think it has a micropattern that reads "VOID" on any copies made of it.

[NickV110]

Quick question. How strict are they with the "grant deed." I own my home so I don't have a rental agreement and don't know where my grant deed is. Any suggestions?

thanks.

[MudWeeds]

San Bernardino Denial!

I just received my letter stating that I was denied because I did not meet the criteria for "good moral character as required by Penal Code Section 26150. The records supporting this decision are investigative records that are confidential pursuant to Code 6254(f) and the sheriff WILL NOT provide you with the detailed information concerning the investigation."
I now have 10 days to appeal this decision and the Sheriff or his designee will consider the appeal and his/her decision is final.
Brief background: I had some charges against me and ALL have been judicially dismissed per 1203.4 PC. The last incident was in 2005.
I have a state exposed firearm permit through BSIS (security guard work) and have the states of Arizona, Nevada, Florida, and Utah CCW's, all within the last 2 years.
In speaking with one of the ladies at the office, she said my file looked good and that I need not worry as they were handing them out "like candy."
Now, I'm denied and they won't explain the reasons for it as it is "confidential."
I will appeal but what am I going to address in my appeal if they can not disclose the "confidential" reason(s) for my denial?

Any ideas/leads as to what I should say in my appeal letter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Mud

[matix101]

I dont have mine yet so this is just a guess, but are you a resident here permanantly?
And are your other ccw's non resident?
Maybe they think you dont live her primarily with all those other ccw's.
But idk man, that's a major bummer sorry to hear that.

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[msternin]

Quick question. How strict are they with the "grant deed." I own my home so I don't have a rental agreement and don't know where my grant deed is. Any suggestions?

thanks.

I got a copy of my deed from the county. It was fast, easy and accepted at my interview.

[bonzai272]

No grant deed? You should be fine with a property tax bill instead.

"Current property tax bill, Grant Deed or Rental Agreement"

[msternin]

I will appeal but what am I going to address in my appeal if they can not disclose the "confidential" reason(s) for my denial?

Any ideas/leads as to what I should say in my appeal letter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Mud

Are you able/willing to openly discuss your previous issues (at least to a certain extent)? At the very least the criminal nature of your issues? IE: firearms related, drugs, alcohol, etc... You mentioned your last issue was 2005, meaning you've had other issues. Without know anything more about what's going on, it's hard to give you advice.

[DaLarr]

So I got the call today! Permit is ready. That's the good news! Bad news is I can't pick it up till Monday!

Timeline
04/20/15 - Called to schedule appt.
07/15/15 - Interview & Live scan
10/06/15 - Error on Live scan and needed to resubmit
12/28/15 - Received call and passed background
01/30/16 - 8 hour class/range
02/05/16 - Received call permit is ready for pickup
02/08/16 - Going to pick up permit

[bnncld90]

Thanks guys for your input, had my interview this morning everything went great, didn't ask any questions about my good cause, basically said it was for personal protection and he said ok and the we chatted about my job and then went and did livescan and photo then fingerprint and signature for my card. just gotta wait for the background clearance now

[Cokebottle]

Quick question. How strict are they with the "grant deed." I own my home so I don't have a rental agreement and don't know where my grant deed is. Any suggestions?

thanks.

Go to the assessor's web site and look up your address and pull the property tax records.
I did get a copy of the grant deed from the mortgage company, but all she cared about was my most recent property tax bill.

[Cokebottle]

I dont have mine yet so this is just a guess, but are you a resident here permanantly?
And are your other ccw's non resident?
Maybe they think you dont live her primarily with all those other ccw's.
But idk man, that's a major bummer sorry to hear that.

Denial for residency would be stated as such, he was denied for GMC.

This is the 2nd Calgunner denied for this in the last 6 months.

Mudweeds:
Ditto what mstrmin said.
2005 is pretty recent... just barely outside of the 10 year window that they look most closely at.
The AZ/NV/UT/FL permits are meaningless when it comes to supporting GMC because those states are all shall-issue. Their application is basically a 4473, main difference is Florida will deny if you have multiple DUI within the last 3 years.
Likewise, the bsis exposed weapons permit is related to employment and is not a license to carry 24/7. If your prior issues involved drugs or alcohol, then again, what people do when on duty at work is often different from what they do on their own time.

The basis for a GMC denial?
Employment check... 5 simple questions, but work ethic/reliability issues could be a problem.
Neighborhood check... loud parties, fights with neighbors, racist comments, neighbor reporting suspected drug use.
And of course... the legal background check.

It could have been any one, or it could have been a combination of things, things that the agent you spoke with who said "don't worry" would not have been aware of yet.