San Bernardino

[Quiet]

I finally got the call for my range date. Last week I bought a Glock 19 which I planned to add to my concealed carry list if I could add it. For my interview I listed two guns (M&P and a Kahr). I know I read somewhere that I can still bring a different gun that was on the list I originally went in with. I'm just making sure that I can bring the Glock in to be apart of the list. Can anyone confirm this?

What you have listed does not get locked in, until your range date.
So, in between your interview date and range date, you can make changes on what you want listed.

[Quiet]

Did my classes and range today, got to meet 3 other calgunners to include Quiet. The class and qual was simple, was in the last string to shoot and was still done at 1:30 pm even with an hour lunch.

It was nice meeting y'all.

[WASR10]

For those wondering about renewal notification, my next renewal is in April of 16, and I got my notice in the mail last week

Sent from my tappy device thingy

[hundy]

Different question

Has anyone added a handgun to their CCW that had different sights or aluminum trigger added prior to adding. I know once you add one, they state you cannot make modifications. I have a shield I added upgraded sights to and replaced the poly trigger with a aluminum one.
Just wondering if that is possible.

Thanks

Jay

[REDHORSE]

They will not care if you changed the sights, from any of the factory sight options.

However, they will inspect/pay closer attention to any trigger, internal, or safety changes that someone has done to their firearm at the range qualifications.

I put the factory trigger back into one of my CCW Glocks, just to limit my liability in court, if it was used. I had used it for competition. My CCW guns are factory stock, except for sights on a couple of them and the magazine floor plates are not factory.

[hundy]

Thank you

Thanks for the info. I did save the old trigger, and I can put it back on. I do have a shield I don't plan on carrying and put the trigger on that one.
Good to know I can leave the sights on.

Thank you for the info

Jay

[REDHORSE]

The Sheriff Dept CCW Instructors will explain their reasoning about pistol modifications in the CCW Class.

It's not that the Sheriff's Dept. are totally against gun modifications, they are looking out for your best interest, if you ever had to use your firearm in a defensive situation. They want to be on your side in a justifiable shooting. The Sheriff testimony in court will be more favorable on your behalf if everything is on the up and up.

If something doesn't look right, you may not get the same kind of support from the Sheriff's Dept and their resources.

It's to limit your liabilities in court in a civil case, when the perp (if alive) or the perp's family members sue you.

Lawyers will go after the ones with the biggest bank accounts. Gun manufacturers have the biggest purses to collect from a civil case.

If you or you let someone modify a gun from it's stock configuration, then that almost let's the manufactures and their well paid lawyers off the hook.

The focus will be only be on you, an attorney you can afford on your budget, and your assets. It's best that you limit what their lawyers can use against you in court. The gun modifications is just one of the easier ones to leave off the table.

Much better to still have the manufacture's very well paid attorneys, their expert witnesses, etc. still an option/involved in any case against you.

[hundy]

Thank you

Thank you for the information. I do have my CCW, it has just been awhile. I have had the same handguns on it, and was looking to modify and change what I carry.
I know that most of the regulations are not SBSD, I feel blessed to live in SB county. I am not going to try to add one with different trigger. I appreciate your reply, it helps make sense of why. I have a better understanding, and I don't want to do anything that may go against me in the future.

Jay

[Noonanda]

They will not care if you changed the sights, from any of the factory sight options.

However, they will inspect/pay closer attention to any trigger, internal, or safety changes that someone has done to their firearm at the range qualifications.

I put the factory trigger back into one of my CCW Glocks, just to limit my liability in court, if it was used. I had used it for competition. My CCW guns are factory stock, except for sights on a couple of them and the magazine floor plates are not factory.

I just did my range Qual Saturday, the only thing that I have done to my M&P FS and Shield is remove the Magazine disconnect. both were certified as good to go. There was a member here that took his Competition gun with some mods and they still certified it as good to go. They really didnt say anything one way or the other about pistol mods IIRC

here is the Quote, this is from User GWolff on post 1826 when I asked what mods were allowed.

At my range date they checked function. They made sure the weapon could be locked back, checked for obstructions etc. I would just make sure your weapon isn't all dirty. For kicks I brought a 5" XD which is heavily modified for the shooting competitions I do and it passed with its 3.5lb trigger kit, stippled grip, weighted guide rod, overtravel stop, etc.

Ultimately its up to you what level of liability you are open for. For Me the way I look at it, Damned if you do, Dead if you dont, even if it is a good shoot.

[Cokebottle]

I finally got the call for my range date. Last week I bought a Glock 19 which I planned to add to my concealed carry list if I could add it. For my interview I listed two guns (M&P and a Kahr). I know I read somewhere that I can still bring a different gun that was on the list I originally went in with. I'm just making sure that I can bring the Glock in to be apart of the list. Can anyone confirm this?

What you listed on the original application is meaningless.
That was for when you brought the guns in with you for the interview and the initial inspection was performed at the office.

Last year, the office was declared a gun free zone and your guns are inspected at the range.
If you look in the packet that you were given at the end of your interview, it will have directions and instructions for the range visit, and a sheet to list your 3 guns.

[Cokebottle]

If I'm starting a new job on the twentieth should I wait till I start my job to fill out the application or just do one now.

How 2A friendly is your new employer vs your old employer?
A letter is mailed to your current employer asking several questions about your work habits, reliability, and responsibility.
That might be difficult for a new employer to honestly answer.

There's no harm in applying... 8 days isn't going to make much difference. Your interview won't be for another 2 months and it's after the interview that they start the background/character check.

[thugs_meet_GOD]

How 2A friendly is your new employer vs your old employer?
A letter is mailed to your current employer asking several questions about your work habits, reliability, and responsibility.
That might be difficult for a new employer to honestly answer.

There's no harm in applying... 8 days isn't going to make much difference. Your interview won't be for another 2 months and it's after the interview that they start the background/character check.

Ok thanks for the info.

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[Quiet]

04-30-15 = call to set up interview
06-24-15 = interview
07-01-15 = work received, completed, and mailed back the "employment letter".
07-28-15 = residency check
08-26-15 = received call telling me I passed the background check and to schedule a range date.
09-23-15 = received email reminder of Range Safety Class on 10-10-15. Email contained attachments on what to bring, map to the class, and instructions to bring completed Firearm Form to the class.
10-10-15 = scheduled range date.

Update...
10-13-15 = received call telling me there is an issue with one of the handguns I want listed on my permit and they wanted to know if I wanted to drop that handgun & have my permit issued with two handguns or if I wanted to delay issuance of my permit, until I resolved the handgun issue with CA DOJ BOF. (I went with dropping the handgun)

Apparently, CLETS-AFS is showing a different serial number for the handgun. DROS paperwork shows correct serial number.

[Cokebottle]

Update...
10-13-15 = received call telling me there is an issue with one of the handguns I want listed on my permit and they wanted to know if I wanted to drop that handgun & have my permit issued with two handguns or if I wanted to delay issuance of my permit, until I resolved the handgun issue with CA DOJ BOF. (I went with dropping the handgun)

Apparently, CLETS-AFS is showing a different serial number for the handgun. DROS paperwork shows correct serial number.

Wonderful DOJ and their accurate "registration"

[barracudamuscle]

Update...

10-13-15 = received call telling me there is an issue with one of the handguns I want listed on my permit and they wanted to know if I wanted to drop that handgun & have my permit issued with two handguns or if I wanted to delay issuance of my permit, until I resolved the handgun issue with CA DOJ BOF. (I went with dropping the handgun)



Apparently, CLETS-AFS is showing a different serial number for the handgun. DROS paperwork shows correct serial number.

I had the same thing happen... I had the letter from the DOJ stating x firearm is registered to me. It was a brand new gun not registered to anyone except me. When they ran the number it was registered to someone else.

Took a few weeks for the DOJ to get their side of it all squared away.