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  • adaza
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 7

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    • icyoracle
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 12

      Best bet would be to just contact the sheriff's department and see what they say.

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      • Foebia
        Banned
        • Oct 2012
        • 1347

        Not sure what the np3 is but if they touched the trigger i would carry somthing else. Also im sure prosecutors will point out how you had you gun modified into a more lethal killing machine.

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        • Guninator
          Senior Member
          • May 2017
          • 666

          Originally posted by adaza
          Hello everyone, I’ve got a question and I’m hoping I can get some clarification.
          I got my CCW a few months back and one of the firearms I have listed on my permit is a CA model shield that I purchased via PPT from a retired LEO. It’s completely stock with one exception... he had it sent to Robar for the whole NP3 treatment. When I purchased it I didn’t see it as a problem and my course instructed didn’t bat an eye as he looked it over and approved it, but now I’m reading that it could possibly get me into some hot water with the department as it could be seen as unapproved modification. Is this something I should be worried about? Am I better off selling it and buying a new from the factory gun? I’ve switched over to one of my other listed guns for the time being but I really do prefer the shield so I’m hoping I can get this figured out. Thank you for your time!
          My CCW trainer said that custom finishes are a violation of policy. He told a story where one CCW licensee had all his guns chromed and they couldn't be put on his permit. And my trainer said he had asked OCSD about this policy and they confirmed it. I have a similar electroless nickel finish on one of my handguns, so I previously looked into this.

          The truth is, there is probably a zero percent chance that the OCSD would ever find out about the coating on your gun. Obviously whomever you used to qualify the weapon didn't notice it? Not like you chromed a Glock. Personally, I don't want to be carrying a weapon in violation of OCSD policy for various reasons.

          And yeah I think this is a silly rule, but being petulant about it does me no good. I'm just thankful that I can get a permit in California, something for the vast majority of my life I never thought would never happen.
          "The right to keep and bear arms . . . is not the only constitutional right that has controversial public safety implications. -- Justice Alito, McDonald v. Chicago

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          • socal m1 shooter
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 1204

            I heard that the number of permits in OC is actually down below 20,000, even if they continue to issue roughly 500 permits per month.

            It seems many elect not to renew, and one of the main reasons is because a good number of permit holders are apparently leaving the state, at least for 51% of the time, if not permanently.
            iTrader under old CalGuns

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            • Browneye
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 746

              Originally posted by socal m1 shooter
              I heard that the number of permits in OC is actually down below 20,000, even if they continue to issue roughly 500 permits per month.

              It seems many elect not to renew, and one of the main reasons is because a good number of permit holders are apparently leaving the state, at least for 51% of the time, if not permanently.


              I'm one that did not renew. My permit was for carrying a firearm in my topbox on the adventure motorcycle. Bike is sold, have quit riding, too old and my back is whack. Have not carried a weapon in public in the four years I had my permit, and now retiring and building a home out of state.

              When I get where I'm going maybe I'll get one there.

              Enjoyed the process and the experience. And still enjoy shooting - have all my life.
              1911 Shooter

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              • socal m1 shooter
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 1204

                As of 9/1/2019, OCSD will require license pick-ups via appointment only.
                iTrader under old CalGuns

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                • Yodaman
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 2748

                  Hello All,

                  Wisdom is needed for a renewal. Couple of questions.

                  1. Do I scan and resubmit the CA DOJ "Bureau of Firearms Initial & Renewal Application” or is it part of the online portion you fill out online now? Or is it not needed for renewal?

                  2. Other than the utility bills, CDL and Good Cause, is there anything I would need to scan and submit?

                  When I appiled originally everything was submitted in paper form. I'm just trying to see what I need or don't need this time

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                  • live2suck
                    Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 230

                    Picked up my permit today, and noted all of the dates along the way, so I can y'all an idea of timeline:

                    Applied: 6/7
                    Interviewed/Conditional Approval/Submit LiveScan: 6/11
                    Live Scan Approval: 6/20
                    Training & Certificate Submittal: 6/23
                    (certificate & serial no errors needed correction)
                    Investigator Approval & Submittal for Final Approval: 6/25
                    Conditional Final Approval + Error Correction: 8/28
                    (MORE certificate & serial no errors needed correction)
                    Final Approval & Pick Up: 9/4

                    AZ & UT Mailed: 7/2
                    AZ Received: 7/13
                    UT Received: 8/12

                    FL Mailed: 9/4
                    FL Received: 10/1

                    Looks like OCSD is running about 90 days at the moment, and I was pleasantly surprised at how on-the-ball AZ, FL, & UT were.
                    Last edited by live2suck; 11-06-2019, 2:36 PM. Reason: Added FL dates.
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                    If you can't eat it, play with it, or hump it ...
                    PISS ON IT, and walk away.

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                    • Yodaman
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 2748

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                      • Yodaman
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 2748



                        No one? No help available?


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                        • tasdevl
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2019
                          • 38

                          Originally posted by Guninator
                          [URL="https://www.californiagunpermit.com/"]

                          The truth is, there is probably a zero percent chance that the OCSD would ever find out about the coating on your gun.
                          What about a traffic stop? But I agree, it's silly.

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                          • opass
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 97

                            Originally posted by socal m1 shooter
                            As of 9/1/2019, OCSD will require license pick-ups via appointment only.
                            It is 10/01/2109. OCSD will require license pick ups via appointment only.

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                            • socal m1 shooter
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 1204

                              Originally posted by Yodaman
                              No one? No help available?
                              Even an amendment to a current permit requires one to go through the application form online, again, though there are a couple fields where you enter reference numbers from your existing permit to connect the current application with what you submitted previously. I can't see why a renewal would be any different.
                              iTrader under old CalGuns

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                              • Redhawker
                                Junior Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 86

                                Since I posted a couple question about my renewal I though I'd post the timeline since I received it in time to beat Murphy to the punch (today is the old one's expiration BTW).

                                6/11 - applied for renewal and provided all documentation except the training certificate
                                6/24 - provided training certificate
                                8/20 - approved
                                8/30 - picked up new permit (because I had a lot of stuff going on, but I could have got it on the 20th if I could have got over there.)

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