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[meanspartan]

So I submitted my application back in June with a light-green good cause. My check has been cashed but haven't heard anything else. I've read that reaching out would only cause my application to be put in the back of the line. Any suggestions?




Mailed: 6/23/2021
Delivered: 6/25/2021
Check Cashed: 7/29/2021

Unless there is a reversal in what we are hearing lately about the light green good cause denials, you may want to delay things as long as possible so that if SCOTUS reaches the right ruling in the Spring/Summer, you will be one of the first in line for a permit, as opposed to being denied and then reapplying with the tidal wave of people who will apply after such a ruling.

It's hardly a sure thing, of course. SCOTUS could screw us over and enshrine "may (no) issue" as permanently acceptable. But if we can't win with this court, we can't win. so here's hoping for the best. It's unlikely to get better than the 5-1-3 we have right now.

[LrdVaderZ]

I wish LASD takes a page from OC - they have online system for applying, and that would make things easier for all concerned

[meanspartan]

I wish LASD takes a page from OC - they have online system for applying, and that would make things easier for all concerned

Should SCOTUS rule in our favor, I imagine they will have to expedite things somehow, because otherwise people will start suing if they violate the 90 day time limit required by CA law. The only reason people don't raise that issue now is because they are scared if they bring that up, they'll just be instantly denied. I know that's why I didn't complain when my process dragged on for over 150 days. But if shall-issue were the national standard, that would change the dynamic.

I guess CA could change the law to remove the time limit. But that would also set up lawsuits for counties purposefully trying to slow down issuance to keep people from getting permits.

[Rpak562]

I wish LASD takes a page from OC - they have online system for applying, and that would make things easier for all concerned

I don't think LASD quite planned for this many applications. I believe OC, Riverside and SD all do it online. Someone correct me if I'm wrong lol

[2340]

Good news Boys! Seven weeks after submitting training docs, an unlisted number call came in so I calmly answered it pretending not to be excited. I cannot believe it but I am picking up tomorrow. From start to end it took six months. I didn't call or email them about anything and was patient with the process. Looks like I'll be seeing a few of you happy guys in Monterey Park.

Light Red
4/10 submission regular mail
6/24 received call for interview
7/15 livescan complete
8/10 received email to begin training
8/25 sent in training docs
10/11 received call to pick up

[meanspartan]

Good news Boys! Seven weeks after submitting training docs, an unlisted number call came in so I calmly answered it pretending not to be excited. I cannot believe it but I am picking up tomorrow. From start to end it took six months. I didn't call or email them about anything and was patient with the process. Looks like I'll be seeing a few of you happy guys in Monterey Park.

Light Red
4/10 submission regular mail
6/24 received call for interview
7/15 livescan complete
8/10 received email to begin training
8/25 sent in training docs
10/11 received call to pick up

Congratulations! Very cool.

I definitely did the pretend not to be excited thing too.

"CCW permit? Oh right, right, that little thing, I had almost forgotten. I definitely haven't been checking my email every 15 minutes, answering calls that are clearly from telemarketers just to be safe, and posting on CalGuns religiously"

[Immortal547]

This should not be a surprise considering they haven't met the timeline required by law either (The processing time for a California License to Carry permit is within 90 days of the date of application, or 30 days after the background check is received from the Department of Justice (whichever is sooner)). I now have 2 houses, 1 in LA County, and 1 in Clark County. I was up at the Clark County house last week, applied on Monday, LiveScan and Interview on Tuesday, took the CCW Course on Friday. I have advanced notification from USPS, guess what is in the mail and I should have tomorrow?

[localpew]

90 days huh?

*Cries in day 162 of waiting for call for interview*


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[kjc625]

Good news Boys! Seven weeks after submitting training docs, an unlisted number call came in so I calmly answered it pretending not to be excited. I cannot believe it but I am picking up tomorrow. From start to end it took six months. I didn't call or email them about anything and was patient with the process. Looks like I'll be seeing a few of you happy guys in Monterey Park.

Light Red
4/10 submission regular mail
6/24 received call for interview
7/15 livescan complete
8/10 received email to begin training
8/25 sent in training docs
10/11 received call to pick up

Congrats. FYI, calling or emailing does not make any difference in your app process. I am telling you this based on my long law enforcement career including my 10 years in detective assignments.

[Paladin]

So I submitted my application back in June with a light-green good cause. My check has been cashed but haven't heard anything else. I've read that reaching out would only cause my application to be put in the back of the line. Any suggestions?




Mailed: 6/23/2021
Delivered: 6/25/2021
Check Cashed: 7/29/2021

Yeah, on the previous page of posts (#8503) I suggested people log on to FB or Instagram when AV has his weekly town hall and ask him about Recreational activities risks as acceptable GC. Also tell him your time line for processing.

My source suggests ALL of you sign up with both FB and Instagram and send him questions about why the recent change in GC. I suggest you guys work out together exactly what you want to know and how to best phrase it before the live event (town hall). ETA: “AV goes live around 10am-1pm on tuesdays generally.“

[Usual_Suspect]

The licensing authority shall give written notice to the applicant indicating if the license under this article is approved or denied. The licensing authority shall give this notice within 90 days of the initial application for a new license or a license renewal, or 30 days after receipt of the applicant’s criminal background check from the Department of Justice, whichever is later. If the license is denied, the notice shall state which requirement was not satisfied.

It’s actually whichever is later. They have 30 days after receipt of your background check. The key word is receipt. Just because it shows cleared online doesn’t mean LASD has received it.

Cal DOJ is required by law to maintain audit records for any information requested by Law Enforcement Agencies, as well as non-Law Enforcement Agencies. The audit trail has to show who requested it, the agency, the reason for the request, and the date/time a response was sent, and who received the response. Shouldn't be to hard to get audit trail records from DOJ when it is your own records.
LASD is betting no one will take the time or pay to get the audit records to show they are not meeting the timelines. The old LASD Policy, 36 or 39 pages, which used to be on the web, clearly stated all Cal DOJ Responses are either by computer, or fax only, mail is not used due to the sensitive nature of the information. Looking at the denials from here, none of the applicants were asked to do a livescan, they did it without being requested, and it was much longer than 90 days.
Looking at timelines and posts, they are not meeting the timelines. I realize they are understaffed, but there needs to be a better system developed. Long term the system they are using will collapse under it's own paper weight.

[classicman213]

Good news Boys! Seven weeks after submitting training docs, an unlisted number call came in so I calmly answered it pretending not to be excited. I cannot believe it but I am picking up tomorrow. From start to end it took six months. I didn't call or email them about anything and was patient with the process. Looks like I'll be seeing a few of you happy guys in Monterey Park.

Light Red
4/10 submission regular mail
6/24 received call for interview
7/15 livescan complete
8/10 received email to begin training
8/25 sent in training docs
10/11 received call to pick up

Perhaps applicants with strong GC in this case light red are get priority are getting expedited ? Now AV can say approvals are up 500%

Congrats on doing your due diligence [emoji122]

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[Immortal547]

Cal DOJ is required by law to maintain audit records for any information requested by Law Enforcement Agencies, as well as non-Law Enforcement Agencies. The audit trail has to show who requested it, the agency, the reason for the request, and the date/time a response was sent, and who received the response. Shouldn't be to hard to get audit trail records from DOJ when it is your own records.
LASD is betting no one will take the time or pay to get the audit records to show they are not meeting the timelines. The old LASD Policy, 36 or 39 pages, which used to be on the web, clearly stated all Cal DOJ Responses are either by computer, or fax only, mail is not used due to the sensitive nature of the information. Looking at the denials from here, none of the applicants were asked to do a livescan, they did it without being requested, and it was much longer than 90 days.
Looking at timelines and posts, they are not meeting the timelines. I realize they are understaffed, but there needs to be a better system developed. Long term the system they are using will collapse under it's own paper weight.

Actually several people have mentioned that they were told results are both mailed and emailed. They absolutely send such information over regular mail. I recently did a transfer to a family member and it had all his sensitive information on it. It took the DOJ 3 months from the time I submitted the transfer online to getting a hard copy in the mail.

Lrdvadr got his denial less than 30 days after his interview and seeweed got his denial less than 30 days after his 2nd livescan. His first was never received so if the results really are only emailed it must be in their spam folder.

Are they going over the timeline? Probably. Is anyone going to challenge it? Probably not.

[jl9389]

update, contacted last friday for me to update my drivers license (has a previous address and wanted my address to match my home), then contacted by interviewing deputy last week telling me to start a livescan even though after our interview deputy told me to go, and contacted again today asking for documents that we're provided at time of interview. we shall see if perhaps something got misplaced or.....

[seaweedsoyboy]

Looking at the denials from here, none of the applicants were asked to do a livescan, they did it without being requested, and it was much longer than 90 days.
Looking at timelines and posts, they are not meeting the timelines. I realize they are understaffed, but there needs to be a better system developed. Long term the system they are using will collapse under it's own paper weight.

I was told to get my LiveScan one week after my interview.