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  • LrdVaderZ
    Member
    • Oct 2020
    • 379

    Here is information straight from City of LA's site -

    Do I need a tax certificate?

    Every person who engages in any business within the City of Los Angeles* is required to obtain the necessary Tax Registration Certificate(s) and make payment of the business tax. You can apply in person to the Main Office of Finance or any branch offices. Or, in many cases, you can file an application by mail. While you are required to register your business, you may find that your business may be exempt from paying the tax if you are a new business, small business or creative artist.

    And I do have that certificate that shows that I am doing business in LA
    *AZ/UT Permits*
    Picked up California one 6/2/23

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    • igs
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2017
      • 941

      Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
      FFL 03 is expressly FORBIDDEN from dealing in guns. It's a collector only license
      What was your good cause, that you're an FFL 03 that doesn't do any business?
      ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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      • LrdVaderZ
        Member
        • Oct 2020
        • 379

        Originally posted by igs
        What was your good cause, that you're an FFL 03 that doesn't do any business?
        Yes, I specifically stated that I am an FFL 03 and because of being engaged in collecting of Antique/C&R firearms, which are usually not cheap...and so on/etc
        *AZ/UT Permits*
        Picked up California one 6/2/23

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        • igs
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2017
          • 941

          Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
          Yes, I specifically stated that I am an FFL 03 and because of being engaged in collecting of Antique/C&R firearms, which are usually not cheap...and so on/etc
          How is that a good cause??
          ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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          • LrdVaderZ
            Member
            • Oct 2020
            • 379

            Originally posted by igs
            How is that a good cause??
            It's not the whole statement, just a paraphrase, - point is, I expressly stated that I have FFL 03 license
            *AZ/UT Permits*
            Picked up California one 6/2/23

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            • Paul49
              Member
              • May 2016
              • 230

              Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
              FFL 03 is expressly FORBIDDEN from dealing in guns. It's a collector only license
              4/19/21 applied, 8/31 Whittier interview.
              11/17 PTT email, docs sent 11/18
              12/13 call for pick up, picked up 12/15/21.
              Utah CCW since March 2018 and Arizona since June 2022
              Mailed renewal 5/8/23, online 11/6, interview 11/15
              11/26 PTT and docs submitted, 11/29 approved
              Pickup 12/20

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              • Paul49
                Member
                • May 2016
                • 230

                4/19/21 applied, 8/31 Whittier interview.
                11/17 PTT email, docs sent 11/18
                12/13 call for pick up, picked up 12/15/21.
                Utah CCW since March 2018 and Arizona since June 2022
                Mailed renewal 5/8/23, online 11/6, interview 11/15
                11/26 PTT and docs submitted, 11/29 approved
                Pickup 12/20

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                • LrdVaderZ
                  Member
                  • Oct 2020
                  • 379

                  It's not just online, but if you were visiting AZ/NV/OR, you can drive back with major quantities of it and FFL will cover you if you get stopped by the police
                  *AZ/UT Permits*
                  Picked up California one 6/2/23

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                  • igs
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 941

                    Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
                    It's not the whole statement, just a paraphrase, - point is, I expressly stated that I have FFL 03 license
                    I think what they're saying is if you have an FFL but aren't doing business with it then it's completely irrelevant. Either the FFL is your good cause or it isn't. If it isn't then there is no point in even bringing it up.
                    ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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                    • thethreegs
                      Member
                      • Jan 2021
                      • 464

                      N/A
                      Last edited by thethreegs; 10-11-2022, 5:55 PM.

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                      • LrdVaderZ
                        Member
                        • Oct 2020
                        • 379

                        Originally posted by igs
                        I think what they're saying is if you have an FFL but aren't doing business with it then it's completely irrelevant. Either the FFL is your good cause or it isn't. If it isn't then there is no point in even bringing it up.
                        Most people have more than one concern which folds into the GC. In my case it is/was collecting antique/relic firearms which are not exactly cheap (ffl 03 allows to do cash and carry for C&R approved items), my freelancing business which entails quite often handing rather expensive pieces of IT equipment, in addition, my dad's health condition precludes us from attempting to retreat from a bad situation, -- there were several more arguments, including .... and afraid as well
                        *AZ/UT Permits*
                        Picked up California one 6/2/23

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                        • igs
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 941

                          Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
                          Most people have more than one concern which folds into the GC. In my case it is/was collecting antique/relic firearms which are not exactly cheap (ffl 03 allows to do cash and carry for C&R approved items), my freelancing business which entails quite often handing rather expensive pieces of IT equipment, in addition, my dad's health condition precludes us from attempting to retreat from a bad situation, -- there were several more arguments, including .... and afraid as well
                          Sounds like that's the problem, multiple unrelated good causes confused them and they just looked at the first one and said nope doesn't qualify.
                          ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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                          • LrdVaderZ
                            Member
                            • Oct 2020
                            • 379

                            Originally posted by igs
                            Sounds like that's the problem, multiple unrelated good causes confused them and they just looked at the first one and said nope doesn't qualify.
                            That should not be my problem. Life itself is complicated and if a deputy or worse yet, LT is unable to read a complex statement, we have a bigger problem. Besides, the GC field is located in "Investigator's Interview Notes". Which means it's not me who should be filling that part out, but the deputy whilst interviewing me for my GC and other related information.
                            Last edited by LrdVaderZ; 10-04-2021, 4:18 PM.
                            *AZ/UT Permits*
                            Picked up California one 6/2/23

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                            • seaweedsoyboy
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2019
                              • 747

                              Originally posted by igs
                              Sounds like that's the problem, multiple unrelated good causes confused them and they just looked at the first one and said nope doesn't qualify.
                              Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
                              That should not be my problem. Life itself is complicated and if a deputy or worse yet, LT is unable to read a complex statement, we have a bigger problem
                              Yeah dude, idk about that take. Multiple unrelated good causes absolutely should not be confusing to them. Most people here submitted upwards of 3-4 different good causes in their statement.
                              02.28.22 - Application mailed
                              07.13.22 - Live Scan complete
                              11.03.22 - Interview
                              01.14.23 - Proceed to training authorization
                              01.21.23 - Cert submitted
                              01.23.23 - Acknowledged receipt
                              03.12.23 - Call to schedule pickup
                              04.07.23 - Permit issued

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                              • igs
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2017
                                • 941

                                Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
                                That should not be my problem. Life itself is complicated and if a deputy or worse yet, LT is unable to read a complex statement, we have a bigger problem. Besides, the GC field is located in "Investigator's Interview Notes". Which means it's not me who should be filling that part out, but the deputy whilst interviewing me for my GC and other related information.
                                Well the LT's response was entirely about the FFL so whether or not it's the deputy's fault that he misunderstood you doesn't really matter because the bottom line is their problem is now your problem.
                                ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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