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  • obeygiant
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2007
    • 4167

    Los Angeles

    Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department CCW Policy and Application: http://lasd.org/ccw_info.html

    You have to be a resident of a city to apply with a city's Police Department.

    Residents of the City of Los Angeles should read this thread on applying with LAPD: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1423638

    Glendale, Glendora, and Torrance issue CCWs through their Police Departments, but they rarely/restrictively issue them. The first two are probably light red, the last light red, maybe yellow.

    Anyone who gets denied in Los Angeles Co (either by a city's PD or by the Sheriff's Office), and wants to fight it should read the following quote from my ("Paladin") post in the Monterey Co thread. (There they accept SD as GC, but push the GMC requirement.) The 14th Amendment Equal Protection applies to ALL aspects of the application process, not just GC and GMC.

    Originally posted by Paladin
    they say SD = GC, but then push GMC through the roof and, it appears, make your RKBA subject to your neighbors', co-workers' and friends' ratification....

    If Bernal does NOT follow this same procedure with ALL CCW applicants (think political donors, "friends of the sheriff"/"posse" members, politicians, celebrities), he's open for a Guillory-type 14th A Equal Protection federal lawsuit, but for GMC rather than GC.

    Hypothetically, let's say there's a world-famous film star (and director) who lives in (and was once the mayor of) Carmel-By-The-Sea, a city which, acc to CGF's 2013 survey, does not issue CCWs. We'll call him "Mr. E." Let's suppose Mr. E has a Monterey SO CCW. When it is/was time to renew, if the sheriff has the same policy for renewals that means his "background investigator" would have to go to Mr. E's neighbors (who, unlike his friends, may be hard-core antis), and "ask them if they would recommend [Mr. E] be issued a CCW permit." Not only would the same procedure have to be followed, but the same standard as to judging whether to issue or not be followed. IOW, let's say 1 of your neighbors says "Nyet!" when asked if you should get a CCW and because of that you are denied. If 1 of Mr. E's neighbors also said "No!" and yet was issued, that too is a 14th A Equal Protection violation.
    (revised 2018 Dec 01)

    // Updated 12-1-2018; thanks to Paladin
    // Librarian

    UPDATED 2021 - see post 6396

    LA COUNTY CCW FAQ

    Do you still need a denial letter from LAPD?

    As of April 2021, you do NOT need a denial letter from LAPD. Apply directly to LASD if you live in LA County.

    Should I fill out every section of the application, even though it states not to?

    YES. If you look closely on the LASD CCW website, it states the complete sections 1-8 and sign your name wherever stated. You are sending the application to LASD and not the DOJ, so signing all sections, including section 7, is required to process your application.

    Where should I submit my application? Should I drop it off to my local LASD?

    No. Mail or drop off to the address stated on the LASD CCW website. If you drop it off to your local department, you are at the mercy of their administrative assistant’s schedule of delivery. This adds unnecessary time to your application.

    LASD did not cash my money order/check. What is going on?

    The date of cashing your money order or check is not important. There have been reports of cashing it within days or not cashing it until after the interview. If you do not mail your application by certified mail, you can view whether they cashed your money order or check as a confirmation of receipt.

    How do you know they cashed your money order?

    If you mailed with a USPS money order, there is a tracking number. Check your status at https://tools.usps.com/money-orders.htm

    How long does it take to receive an interview?

    This answer will be ever changing due to the influx of applications as time goes, but it appears to range anywhere from 2-6 months.

    There was nowhere to submit my e-mail address in the application. Did I miss something?

    When you get a call for your interview, your deputy will ask you for your e-mail address for further instructions.

    Can you use your car registration as your proof of residency?

    Yes.

    What is the interview like?

    The interview is brief and they go over your application with you to confirm your answers and good cause. They will ask general questions from a two page sheet like, “have you ever been in a fight, do you smoke marijuana, etc.” Remember to be truthful and disclose ALL information including expunged records. This may cause a delay or denial to your application processing time if everything is not revealed upfront.

    This is the time to provide evidence for your good cause. It is recommended to bring originals and make copies of all your evidence, along with your basic information (passport, proof of residence, w2’s, driver’s license).

    Should I do my livescan early?

    This is a personal choice. It is not believed to harm your eligibility and at this time it may or may not process your application faster. The gap of time between application submission and receiving a phone call to schedule an interview is months. If you know you have a squeaky clean record and are willing to gamble the $120-$135 livescan fee in case of denial, that is your choice. Due to extended wait times, your livescan may expire before your application is processed so proceed with caution.

    Should I do my training early?

    This is a personal choice. It is not believed to harm your eligibility and at this time it may or may not process your application faster. It is currently believed the best process is to do your training early and WAIT until they send you the e-mail or phone call to proceed with training to submit the training. This way, you receive confirmation your application is moving forward. Again, only do training early if you are willing to gamble the fees in case of denial. Due to extended wait times, your training may expire before your application is processed so proceed with caution.

    How do I submit my training?

    Take photos of the two completed sheets and e-mail them as an attachment to the CCW unit’s e-mail CCW_Unit@lasd.org

    I have not heard back in X weeks/months. Should I contact them for the status of my application?

    No. There are currently thousands of applications with a larger influx coming in every week. They will send a generic response and all it does is slow down the unit’s capacity overall.

    How do you know when your livescan has been completed?

    Check the status of your livescan at https://applicantstatus.doj.ca.gov/ This does not necessarily reflect when the CCW unit receives the results of your livescan.

    How long does it take to get issued?

    This is an ever changing issue but is likely to take five months to a year.
    Last edited by Librarian; 01-14-2022, 3:31 PM. Reason: Things have changed a bit
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  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44626

    Note updated first post in the thread, thanks to Paladin.
    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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    • #3
      Paladin
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2005
      • 12379

      Anyone know what local time Villeneuva will be sworn in today?
      240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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      • #4
        CCWFacts
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2007
        • 6168

        Originally posted by Paladin
        Anyone know what local time Villeneuva will be sworn in today?
        Around noon. Welcome Sheriff Villanueva.
        "Weakness is provocative."
        Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

        Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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        • #5
          Paladin
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2005
          • 12379

          Originally posted by CCWFacts
          Around noon. Welcome Sheriff Villanueva.


          QUESTION: Anyone know why McDonnell retired and/or Villanueva took over now versus in January?

          I've asked baggss to post a revised CA CCW GC map showing LA "light red" ASAP.

          Since the LASD website still shows McDonnell, it's CCW info also hasn't been updated. Once it shows Villanueva as sheriff, we'll look to see if the CCW info has also be revised, and if so, check it to ensure it too supports "light red" and to see if it indicates yellow or better.

          Whoever notices first that LASD website no longer shows McDonnell, but rather shows Villanueva as sheriff, please post that in this thread ASAP. Thx!




          http://lasd.org/pdfjs/ConcealedWeapo...icyAug2018.pdf (dated 08/01/18)

          convincing evidence of a clear and present danger to life or of great bodily harm to the applicant, his spouse or dependent child, which cannot be adequately dealt with by existing law enforcement resources and which danger cannot be reasonably avoided by alternative measures, and which danger would be significantly mitigated by the applicant's carrying of a concealed firearm.
          Last edited by Paladin; 12-13-2018, 10:56 AM.
          240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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          • #6
            Yodaman
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 2748

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            • #7
              Paladin
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2005
              • 12379

              Originally posted by Yodaman
              No one should forget. It’s LA County. Things aren’t going to change overnight.
              But apps submitted now will be decided (whenever that will be), by Villanueva under his GC standard vs. being red-stamped "DOA" by McDonnell...

              At least now, people with really solid GC can apply knowing that they'll have a solid chance of getting a CCW vs our default reply of telling them "you're wasting your time, money and effort."

              Plus, WE need people w/really solid GC to apply ASAP so that we can find out if AV has really changed LASD's CCW GC policy.

              For newbies: If you're an average, law-abiding gun owner with no ongoing threats to your life that you've reported to the police or don't have a job/occupation that puts you at heightened risk of being attacked, you still have NO CHANCE of getting a CCW from LASD (going by AV's campaign statements). You still have to wait for a federal court win on a Carry case, probably sometime before 2022 July...
              Last edited by Paladin; 12-03-2018, 2:44 PM.
              240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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              • #8
                Yodaman
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 2748

                Originally posted by Paladin
                But apps submitted now will be decided (whenever that will be), by Villanueva under his GC standard vs. being redstamped "DOA" by McDonnell...

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                • #9
                  CCWFacts
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2007
                  • 6168

                  Some things have changed, literally, overnight.

                  Welcome to third world Los Angeles where people get massive promotions to critical roles because of their skin color. Makes sense to me.
                  "Weakness is provocative."
                  Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

                  Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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                  • #10
                    Yodaman
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 2748

                    Los Angeles

                    Originally posted by CCWFacts
                    Some things have changed, literally, overnight.





                    Welcome to third world Los Angeles where people get massive promotions to critical roles because of their skin color. Makes sense to me.
                    Last edited by Yodaman; 12-03-2018, 4:10 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Yodaman
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 2748

                      Los Angeles

                      ...

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                      • #12
                        Paladin
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 12379

                        Originally posted by Yodaman
                        Yes. I meant in regards to CCW. He know as anyone else who is familiar with LAC politics, that’s once he tries to allow “more” CCWs (is it’s actually to the everyday population) that he will loose support from the LA Board of Supervisors, and liberal donors.

                        He may not be political now, but next year by this time he will. It’s LAC.

                        People quickly learn, do it the Democratic way or lose support.
                        You sound just like all the San Diego posters who didn't/couldn't believe Sheriff Gore actually changed his CCW GC policy and liberalized issuance....

                        I'm NOT saying you're wrong, like they were. I'm just saying you could be.

                        FWIW I just thought of a way of thinking re. the colors on the map and CA gun owners.
                        Dark red means "virtually none" of us can get one.
                        Light red means "few" of us can get one.
                        Yellow means "some" of us can get one.
                        Light green means "most" of us can get one.
                        Dark green means "virtually all" of us can get one.
                        Last edited by Paladin; 12-05-2018, 11:07 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Yodaman
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 2748

                          Originally posted by Paladin
                          You sound just like all the San Diego posters who didn't/couldn't believe Sheriff Gore actually changed his CCW GC policy and liberalized issuance....



                          I'm NOT saying you're wrong, like they were. I'm just saying you could be.



                          FWIW I just thought of a way of thinking re. the colors on the map and CA gun owners.

                          Dark red means "virtually none" of us can get one.

                          Light red means "some" of us can get one.

                          Yellow means that "many" of us can get one.

                          Light green means that "most" of us can get one.

                          Dark green means that "virtually all" of us can get one.

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                          • #14
                            Paladin
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 12379

                            Originally posted by Yodaman
                            I hope it does happen. SD is typically less liberal than LAC when it comes to voting districts, donors and even at times politics

                            LAC is tough ground politically. The money is there. Donor driven. That’s why big donors are known to get CCWs in LAC.
                            Key question: Did wealthy liberal donors back McDonnell or AV? My GUESS is they backed the incumbent and AV's "base" was his fellow Latinos. They're the ones he's beholden to.

                            Originally posted by Yodaman
                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                            If you can adjust your software to eliminate this, that would be appreciated by all.
                            Last edited by Paladin; 12-03-2018, 3:45 PM.
                            240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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                            • #15
                              Yodaman
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2748

                              Originally posted by Paladin
                              If you can adjust your software to eliminate this, that would be appreciated by all.

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