Los Angeles

[concealcarrypizza]

Especially for an Angelino in Texas

Texas was great. Welcome to the mainstream there!

LAPD is under control of the City Council, the most corrupt city council in America. No way CCW will happen there.

LASD, you had Lindsey supporters as the swing vote.

[Yodaman]

AV is a politician now that he is Sheriff. His views will change or be changed. Even though he is the top elected official in the county. The influences are heavy of those with a dog in the fight, especially when it comes to guns and liberal laws.

He already wants to throw ICE out of the jails. Does that sound conservative?

As in a conservative that wants to allow CCWs.

[Paladin]

AV is a politician now that he is Sheriff. His views will change or be changed. Even though he is the top elected official in the county. The influences are heavy of those with a dog in the fight, especially when it comes to guns and liberal laws.

He already wants to throw ICE out of the jails. Does that sound conservative?

As in a conservative that wants to allow CCWs.

AV didn't run as a "conservative." He ran to get ICE out of the jails and to issue more CCWs than McDonnell, but fewer than Lindsey would.

During the campaign AV highlighted that he is a Dem.

[socal m1 shooter]

[...]

A LIBERAL ELITES WORST FEAR is to be grouped with climate change deniers and anti-vaxxers. And to be labeled a DATA SCIENCE DENIER.

They will turn into dust like a Vampire that sees sunlight. Guaranteed.

Maybe not. Examples of goofball academic studies on gun control are not hard to find. And it's not like the academic publishing industry is known for being a promoter of truth, unless you're one of those people who has truly drank the "peer-reviewed-study=knowledge" koolaid.

Over the last sixty years, the left has thoroughly co-opted academia. To a leftist, the gun issue is just as much settled as evolution: both are facts, guns are bad, and we're all the result of a long series of happy accidents (evolution). There is just no questioning or disputing of either "fact" allowed any more, because both are based on "science." You can't realistically expect academia-- the leftist equivalent of Vatican City in the leftist secular religion-- to reverse itself overnight on a settled "fact" like "guns are bad," any more than you could realistically expect the real Vatican City to reverse itself on the celibacy of the priesthood.

Those studies never make it into the mainstream press.
LA is full of communities that don't make can't read the mainstream press.
Lindsey supporters put Villanueva into office. He knows that. Villanueva owes Lindsey supporters some of his time.

Villanueva filed at least one lawsuit over promotional exams he couldn't pass, so while it may be good to hope for the best, it's also wise to plan for the worst. He plainly describes himself as a progressive in this video, and while the native language of most pols is lies, I wouldn't be surprised if he lives up to that admission. At the same time, who would have guessed ten years ago how Sheriff Hutchens in OC would leave office with 21K CCW permits issued? Was there any indication of that in the press? Time will tell with respect to Villanueva.

[Yodaman]

Los Angeles

AV didn't run as a "conservative." He ran to get ICE out of the jails and to issue more CCWs than McDonnell, but fewer than Lindsey would.



During the campaign AV highlighted that he is a Dem.

[PistolPete75]

So are there any known applicants that were recently approved of a CCW in Los Angeles County/City?

[Paladin]

LASD's new CCW Policy is out!

So are there any known applicants that were recently approved of a CCW in Los Angeles County/City?

LA Co just got a new sheriff less than a month ago, so doubt anyone's been approved/denied by him yet.

The new LASD CCW policy is out: http://lasd.org/pdfjs/CCW_Licensing_Policy_Jan_2019.pdf

Looks pretty much the same as the old one, but since AV claims he'll actually issue according to it, LA Co is light red on the CA CCW GC map now. Wish I could say yellow, but can't. Time will tell as people apply and get issued or denied and post about their experiences.

[Paladin]

For anyone who wants to compare the old (2018 Aug 01) CCW Policy to the new one (2019 Jan 01), a copy of the key/Good Cause parts of each of them with link to source document webpage. I tried to copy & paste them in toto, but since they lose their formatting, it becomes a mess with many lines having only a word or two....


2018/McDonnell:

Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department

Concealed Weapon Licensing PolicyQualifications for a CCW License

To qualify for a CCW, each applicant must demonstrate (1) proof of good moral
character, (2) that good cause exists, and (3) that the applicant is a resident of the
county or a city within the county, or, that the applicant spends a substantial period of
time in the applicant’s place of employment or business in the county or a city within the
county. In addition, the applicant must complete the training requirements as listed
above.

According to Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department policy (5-09/380.10) and the
California Supreme Court (CBS, Inc. v. Block, (1986) 42 Cal.3d 646), good cause shall
exist only if there is convincing evidence of a clear and present danger to life, or of great
bodily harm to the applicant, his spouse, or dependent child, which cannot be
adequately dealt with by existing law enforcement resources, and which danger cannot
be reasonably avoided by alternative measures, and which danger would be
significantly mitigated by the applicant’s carrying of a concealed firearm.

The character requirement will be fulfilled by, but not limited to, a criminal history check
through the Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation. The good cause
requirement will only be fulfilled by thoroughly justifying the applicant’s need to the
Sheriff or his designee on the application form. The residency requirement will be
fulfilled upon presentation of an approved, recognized identification card and at least
one recently canceled item of United States mail.

More at: http://lasd.org/pdfjs/ConcealedWeapo...icyAug2018.pdf

2019/Villenueva:

Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department

Concealed Weapon Licensing PolicyQualifications for a CCW License

To qualify for a CCW, each applicant must demonstrate (1) proof of good moral
character, (2) that good cause exists, and (3) that the applicant is a resident of the
county or a city within the county, or, that the applicant spends a substantial period of
time in the applicant’s place of employment or business in the county or a city within the
county. In addition, the applicant must complete the training requirements as listed
above.

According to Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department policy (5-09/380.10) and the
California Supreme Court (CBS, Inc. v. Block, (1986) 42 Cal.3d 646), good cause shall
exist only if there is convincing evidence of a clear and present danger to life, or of great
bodily harm to the applicant, his spouse, or dependent child, which cannot be
adequately dealt with by existing law enforcement resources, and which danger cannot
be reasonably avoided by alternative measures, and which danger would be
significantly mitigated by the applicant’s carrying of a concealed firearm.

The character requirement will be fulfilled by, but not limited to, a criminal history check
through the Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation. The good cause
requirement will only be fulfilled by thoroughly justifying the applicant’s need to the
Sheriff or his designee on the application form. The residency requirement will be
fulfilled upon presentation of an approved, recognized identification card and at least
one recently canceled item of United States mail.

More at:

http://lasd.org/pdfjs/CCW_Licensing_Policy_Jan_2019.pdf

[Yodaman]

Anything different you notice off hand?

[Paladin]

I'm still editing/formatting. I'll let you compare them as I do that....

FWIW I do NOT live in LA Co....

[Paladin]

Done! Another full hour spent/wasted on a county I don't even live in doing what CGNers who do live there won't do for themselves.... (Is Paladin getting tired of wiping other adults ...es? Yes, Paladin is getting tired of wiping other adults' ...es....)

Now that they've been properly transcribed/transferred to CGN, I'll let LA Co people compare them and let the rest of us know if there's ANY changes, either good or bad. (Of course there's probably changes to training requirements since the state changed the law on that.)

[Yodaman]

Los Angeles

Done! Another full hour spent/wasted on a county I don't even live in doing what CGNers who do live there won't do for themselves.... (Is Paladin getting tired of wiping other adults ...es? Yes, Paladin is getting tired of wiping other adults' ...es....)

Now that they've been properly transcribed/transferred to CGN, I'll let LA Co people compare them and let the rest of us know if there's ANY changes, either good or bad. (Of course there's probably changes to training requirements since the state changed the law on that.)

[calitor]

Is the LASD website not working for anyone else? I was looking to get a copy of the application to give it a go but I keep getting a 403 Forbidden.

[Paladin]

Is the LASD website not working for anyone else? I was looking to get a copy of the application to give it a go but I keep getting a 403 Forbidden.

The CCW page seems to work as does the CCW Licensing Policy link.

http://lasd.org/ccw_info.html

[calitor]

The CCW page seems to work as does the CCW Licensing Policy link.

http://lasd.org/ccw_info.html

I'm going to have to try another device. Your link sent me to the same 403 Forbidden page.