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[ClickBoomBang]

Thanks Paladin, and others who've contributed. Very helpful and informative thread.

I've read through most of the posts (at least dating back 4 or 5 months), and although I've seen the term "live scan" mentioned often as part of the process, I'm still not entirely clear what that means.

I'd like to be as prepared as possible, so I'm wondering if anyone here who has been through it can share what is involved with that part of the application process. Thanks.

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"Live Scan" is a fingerprinting that references FBI criminal database (and other state databases) to establish your identity and that you are who you claim you are, and also as a form of background check. You do it for when you apply for a COE for example, or for work related things that may require a background check. Fees for live scans generally range around $80-100 depending on who does it.

[ClickBoomBang]

"Live Scan" is a fingerprinting that references FBI criminal database (and other state databases) to establish your identity and that you are who you claim you are, and also as a form of background check. You do it for when you apply for a COE for example, or for work related things that may require a background check. Fees for live scans generally range around $80-100 depending on who does it.

Got it, thank you!

[Giangofett]

2nd post wooo hooo! haha. Okay enough of my filler post.

So I've gone backwards on this thread as far back as pages 30, phew. I'm reading a lot of good information and just wanted to say thank you all who have contributed

I've been digging so much more into the gun world and CCW has definitely piqued my interest, but I guess that's obvious for being on both CG and this thread. Anyways, as someone who is in LA Co and going to begin this journey I'm trying to get a couple things straight. So depending on if my city resides in LAPD jurisdiction or not I could potentially bypass that and go straight to LASD? If not I'd have to go through LAPD process with great chance of denial, then proceed with LASD?

In trying to figure out my GC statement I've narrowed down to a couple quite a few options.

• I rent out rooms to 2 tenants of my house both of which I found through Craigslist. I handle lump sums of cash to multiple banks anywhere between $1k-$2k at a time.
• I'm an avid runner, hiker, and backpacker. Many times of which I do at night. While I haven't documented this, I have found 9 and .45 casings on the bike path that I frequently run. Just to give a little location I frequent a park and there is a huge homeless community that surrounds the park that always seems suspect. I'm often times backpacking in remote areas in Angeles National Forest or Joshua Tree where there is no cell reception until you get into a town.
• I'm an amateur photographer who carries $2k-$3k worth of photo equipment and about $1k of backpacking gear while doing said activity
• I'm also a fairly good golfer who carries $1k-$2k worth of gear for hours at the same park mentioned above
• I suppose the obvious of transporting firearms to the shooting range

I understand that's a huge list of items but I'd really like to generalize it and make my GC that more compelling. I'm open to suggestions and I really do appreciate this gun community.

[Paladin]

”Asian and afraid”: the more I think about this the more I think mentioning it it in your GC is a bad idea. Even if it is a legitimate risk and fear, AV would run a huge risk of being accused of having “racial preference” for arming Asians (or on the flip side “racial discrimination” against arming... non Asians) based upon “racist stereotypes.”

Group identity risks might work for disproportionately victimized groups Leftists deem Politically Correct (e.g., sexual minorities), but not for Asians (or whites).

Hopefully the justices Trump put on SCOTUS will enable us to finally win a “Right to Bear Arms” that “shall not be infringed.”

[VinhTran1]

Updated on time line
3/19 mail
4/08 they just cashed the check


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[Giangofett]

”Asian and afraid”: the more I think about this the more I think mentioning it it in your GC is a bad idea. Even if it is a legitimate risk and fear, AV would run a huge risk of being accused of having “racial preference” for arming Asians (or on the flip side “racial discrimination” against arming... non Asians) based upon “racist stereotypes.”

Group identity risks might work for disproportionately victimized groups Leftists deem Politically Correct (e.g., sexual minorities), but not for Asians (or whites).

Hopefully the justices Trump put on SCOTUS will enable us to finally win a “Right to Bear Arms” that “shall not be infringed.”

My thought process was with you on that one.

Updated on time line
3/19 mail
4/08 they just cashed the check


Now waiting [emoji2955]


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[Simba_lbc]

Anyone that has done their livescan, how long did the firearms portion take? My FBI and CA DOJ are done with firearms still pending.


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[VinhTran1]

Quick Q. A friend of mine ask. So if they rejected his GC. Can be reapply right away? Or are there a time period you gotta wait ? I mean regardless you still have to paid the $30


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[dazz397]

Quick Q. A friend of mine ask. So if they rejected his GC. Can be reapply right away? Or are there a time period you gotta wait ? I mean regardless you still have to paid the $30


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It depends on the reason for rejection...Paladin just posted this a few posts back.

#3 I think a LOT of people blew off when the map showed Yellow and didn’t start preparing their applications for when it turned green. They’re caught with their pants down. They don’t have evidence sufficient to prove their Recreational GCs. Two words of advice: don’t lie. Don’t even try to bend the truth. Cops deal with liars ALL the time. Lying on the application is, IIRC, a crime. Getting caught bending the truth turns the cop from neutral to wonder what else are you twisting. Your GMC will be shot for years.

So what do I advise if you didn’t start getting prepared months ago? Start now. Join that shooting club. Get back to regular shooting. You want to be competent when you start carrying, right? Foster those relationships with a view towards letters of reference. Get back into hiking. The fresh air and exercise will do your mind, body and spirit good. Do some regular volunteer work: helping others helps yourself. Give it 4 to 6 months to build up a track record."

Immediately reapplying probably isn't the best idea. If my application was rejected, I would start working on strengthening it first before reapplying.

[VinhTran1]

It depends on the reason for rejection...Paladin just posted this a few posts back.



Immediately reapplying probably isn't the best idea. If my application was rejected, I would start working on strengthening it first before reapplying.

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[Hsu]

Curious what is the difference between a live scan and what is normally conducted with a 4473? Also anyone with experience with a sig 320 that can change calibers and sizes? Could I list caliber as multi?

[dazz397]

Curious what is the difference between a live scan and what is normally conducted with a 4473? Also anyone with experience with a sig 320 that can change calibers and sizes? Could I list caliber as multi?

I believe a 4473 just checks the NICS database for firearms restrictions and does not require fingerprints. The livescan does a background check for arrests, convictions, and incarcerations which can cause you to fail the good moral character portion of the CCW. Livescan can also be used to alert the LASD with subsequent arrest notifications but I am not sure if they request that service from the DOJ or not.

For the caliber, I think you have to qualify with both calibers and it will take up 2 of the 3 spaces on your CCW permit.

[mej16489]

"Live Scan" is a fingerprinting that references FBI criminal database (and other state databases) to establish your identity and that you are who you claim you are, and also as a form of background check. You do it for when you apply for a COE for example, or for work related things that may require a background check. Fees for live scans generally range around $80-100 depending on who does it.

Additionally, it sets up a notification system for the requesting agency to be notified if you become ineligible for the requested background items.

[Paladin]

Is Sheriff Villanueva improving the CCW application process yet again?!!

I was over at the LASD’s CCW webpage and can no longer find any requirement or even mention of requiring a prior denial from an incorporated city’s PD (where LASD does not provide police services). See: https://lasd.org/ccw/

I did find it still on their CCW policy.pdf (last paragraph):

https://lasd.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/CCW_LASD_Policy_072320.pdf

If Villanueva has/is/will drop that requirement that will be a major streamlining for lots of applicants saving them significant time, money and effort.

I suggest people who are preparing CCW applications for LAPD or other LA Co city PDs contact LASD to see if they still have to go through the process with their PD before applying to LASD. Be sure to post here to let the rest of us know what you find out.