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  • The Tiger
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1989

    Sounds like that worked out in your favor.
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    • shadow77phl
      Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 100

      Originally posted by Brandon H
      Can you go ahead and do the CCW training before "Proceed with training" email? Just wondering.
      Yes; but this has to be qualified- provided that you are at a striking distance already, meaning that all three parts of your livescan has already cleared; otherwise you will be running the risk that your training will have been expired at the time you get a proceed to training email. Remember that your training certs is good for a year from date of issuance and with more than 60,000 applications todate, expect everything to be slower and longer than it already is.
      Re-Elect Sheriff AV 2022
      app sent: 06/21/21
      app received: 06/24/21
      check cashed: 07/29/21
      call for interview: 02/24/22
      interview: 03/01/22
      livescan, CA DOJ & FBI: 03/01/22; FA: 05/04/22
      training: 06/04/22; proceed to training email: 08/23/22
      pick up call: 10/17/22; pick up: 10/19/22
      GC: Yellow/ Profession

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      • hwarang
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2021
        • 34

        Originally posted by The Tiger
        Sounds like that worked out in your favor.
        That it did. I guess the moral of the story is to just go with the flow and not be hyper focused on the process. All that seems to do is stress us all out lol.

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        • Brandon H
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 100

          Originally posted by shadow77phl
          Yes; but this has to be qualified- provided that you are at a striking distance already, meaning that all three parts of your livescan has already cleared; otherwise you will be running the risk that your training will have been expired at the time you get a proceed to training email. Remember that your training certs is good for a year from date of issuance and with more than 60,000 applications todate, expect everything to be slower and longer than it already is.
          Yes. I have had my interview, and passed all 3 livescans.
          Mailed app: 10/13/2021
          Interview: 8/24/22
          Livescan completed: 8/24/22
          CA Livescan Completed: 8/24/22
          Fed Livescan Completed: 8/24/22
          Firearm Livescan Completed: 8/26/22
          Proceed with Training Email: 10/17/22
          Training Complete: 9/17/2022
          Training Received Email : 10/19/22
          Permit Issued: 11/16/2022

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          • ProRoad
            Member
            • Apr 2022
            • 350

            Picked up my permit this morning. Lots of people both interviewing or picking up today. Arrived at the Monterey Park office, waited 30 minutes till my name was called. Easy quick meet, photo, sign and pay. Turns out the approval was dated 3 weeks ago. Total time from start to end, 4 days shy of 15 months.
            Last edited by ProRoad; 09-07-2022, 6:40 PM.

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            • shadow77phl
              Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 100

              Originally posted by Brandon H
              Yes. I have had my interview, and passed all 3 livescans.
              I do not know your timeline brother, but theoretically yes you can. As these things are not codified nor any implementing rules and regs were published, the timeline from livescan completion to proceed to training email varries. For instance, my boss' took 15 days from the time his FA section cleared, mine on the other hand took 109 days.

              This thing should not be based on the luck of the draw if there is a clear guideline and procedural road map, it should be based on order of priority; however as CCW issuance in LA County was novel at the time these started, those guidelines and procedures are not clear hence the variation in timelines and delays.

              There are those that take less than a year, those that are a year, and those that takes longer without rhyme and reason. If you look at my timeline, you would see that I am in for 15 months already and is still waiting for a pick up call.

              In other sub forums in Calguns, some are suggesting filing a writ of mandamus and exhusting administrative remedies before doing so; but an orinary Tom, Dick and Harry without the backing of big lobbyist cannot just do that because it would be cost-prohibitive to do so, considering that these special civil action(s) are against the state (against the county to be exact) and they would be represented by state or county attorneys as the case may be. A writ of mandamus btw is an order by a judge directed to an instrumentality of government to do their job; in essence it compels that governmental instrument, here, the LASD to do thier job and expedite issuance of CCW Permits to law abiding citizens. THAT is a full blown adversarial proceeding which requires a lot of funding as Attorneys here in the US bill by the hour and are very expensive.

              Going back to your original question, at this point where all three parts of your livecan has cleared then your training certs, should you wish to proceed is valid for a year and in all probability, it would not take a year for your proceed to training email to come. Going to training ahead of time or pre-empting the training email saves time in this process but of course, the risk is there.

              For us that went through the distance, the proceed to training email is the signal that all other things have cleared and in all probability we will get issued the permit.

              My two cents; now, time for me to get back to work! Goodluck brother and see you when you get there.
              Last edited by shadow77phl; 09-07-2022, 12:44 PM.
              Re-Elect Sheriff AV 2022
              app sent: 06/21/21
              app received: 06/24/21
              check cashed: 07/29/21
              call for interview: 02/24/22
              interview: 03/01/22
              livescan, CA DOJ & FBI: 03/01/22; FA: 05/04/22
              training: 06/04/22; proceed to training email: 08/23/22
              pick up call: 10/17/22; pick up: 10/19/22
              GC: Yellow/ Profession

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              • stag6.8
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 1335

                Originally posted by ProRoad
                Picked up my permit this morning. Lots of people both interviewing or picking up today. Arrived at the Monterey Park office, waited 30 minutes till my name was called. Easy quick meet, photo, sign and pay. Turns out the approval was dated 3 weeks ago.
                At last !!!....since you already have your Utah permit, you already have coverage in Nevada ... treat yourself to a Las Vegas road trip!!!
                Walked in application: May 10th 2021
                Date of interview: Oct 7th 2021
                Live scan: Oct 7th 2021.
                Email from L.A.S.D. to proceed with training: Feb 3rd, 2022.
                Training Completed: Feb 5th 2022
                Emailed training paperwork to L.A.S.D.: Feb 7th 2022
                L.A.S.D. responded back stating that they received paperwork: Feb 8th 2022
                Call for pickup: Feb, 22nd 2022-pick up permit Feb 23 2022
                Good Cause Color: Yellow
                Active Utah, Arizona and Florida Non-Resident CCW Permits.

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                • nyla
                  Member
                  • Dec 2018
                  • 359

                  Originally posted by Calbix
                  Source? Last I heard, LAPD accepts applications by appointment only, which is entirely on hold right now.
                  There needs to be a lawsuit drafted for this. They are outright denying a constitutional right for BS reasons.
                  "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - Hon. Roger T. Benitez
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                  • Brandon H
                    Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 100

                    Originally posted by shadow77phl
                    I do not know your timeline brother, but theoretically yes you can. As these things are not codified nor any implementing rules and regs were published, the timeline from livescan completion to proceed to training email varries. For instance, my boss' took 15 days from the time his FA section cleared, mine on the other hand took 109 days.

                    This thing should not be based on the luck of the draw if there is a clear guideline and procedural road map, it should be based on order of priority; however as CCW issuance in LA County was novel at the time these started, those guidelines and procedures are not clear hence the variation in timelines and delays.

                    There are those that take less than a year, those that are a year, and those that takes longer without rhyme and reason. If you look at my timeline, you would see that I am in for 15 months already and is still waiting for a pick up call.

                    In other sub forums in Calguns, some are suggesting filing a writ of mandamus and exhusting administrative remedies before doing so; but an orinary Tom, Dick and Harry without the backing of big lobbyist cannot just do that because it would be cost-prohibitive to do so, considering that these special civil action(s) are against the state (against the county to be exact) and they would be represented by state or county attorneys as the case may be. A writ of mandamus btw is an order by a judge directed to an instrumentality of government to do their job; in essence it compels that governmental instrument, here, the LASD to do thier job and expedite issuance of CCW Permits to law abiding citizens. THAT is a full blown adversarial proceeding which requires a lot of funding as Attorneys here in the US bill by the hour and are very expensive.

                    Going back to your original question, at this point where all three parts of your livecan has cleared then your training certs, should you wish to proceed is valid for a year and in all probability, it would not take a year for your proceed to training email to come. Going to training ahead of time or pre-empting the training email saves time in this process but of course, the risk is there.

                    For us that went through the distance, the proceed to training email is the signal that all other things have cleared and in all probability we will get issued the permit.

                    My two cents; now, time for me to get back to work! Goodluck brother and see you when you get there.
                    Updated my signature with my dates. Hopefully it will come soon (proceed with training email). I might just go ahead and schedule
                    Mailed app: 10/13/2021
                    Interview: 8/24/22
                    Livescan completed: 8/24/22
                    CA Livescan Completed: 8/24/22
                    Fed Livescan Completed: 8/24/22
                    Firearm Livescan Completed: 8/26/22
                    Proceed with Training Email: 10/17/22
                    Training Complete: 9/17/2022
                    Training Received Email : 10/19/22
                    Permit Issued: 11/16/2022

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                    • seaweedsoyboy
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2019
                      • 747

                      Originally posted by shadow77phl
                      In other sub forums in Calguns, some are suggesting filing a writ of mandamus and exhusting administrative remedies before doing so; but an orinary Tom, Dick and Harry without the backing of big lobbyist cannot just do that because it would be cost-prohibitive to do so, considering that these special civil action(s) are against the state (against the county to be exact) and they would be represented by state or county attorneys as the case may be. A writ of mandamus btw is an order by a judge directed to an instrumentality of government to do their job; in essence it compels that governmental instrument, here, the LASD to do thier job and expedite issuance of CCW Permits to law abiding citizens. THAT is a full blown adversarial proceeding which requires a lot of funding as Attorneys here in the US bill by the hour and are very expensive.
                      Was looking at the procedure of filing a Writ of Administrative Mandamus (or Administrative Mandate), which I believe would be the proper writ to file in the case of one who was previously denied prior to NYSRPA and would compel an administrative agency (LASD) to reverse their final decision or order. Though, it looks like there is a statute of limitations by which time the petition for writ must be filed.

                      I believe a Writ of Ordinary Mandamus (Ordinary Mandate) would be the route to take if a collective of applicants were inclined to simply light a fire under the LASD to compel the agency to speed up the general processing timeline.
                      02.28.22 - Application mailed
                      07.13.22 - Live Scan complete
                      11.03.22 - Interview
                      01.14.23 - Proceed to training authorization
                      01.21.23 - Cert submitted
                      01.23.23 - Acknowledged receipt
                      03.12.23 - Call to schedule pickup
                      04.07.23 - Permit issued

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                      • Usual_Suspect
                        Member
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 308

                        Originally posted by seaweedsoyboy
                        Was looking at the procedure of filing a Writ of Administrative Mandamus (or Administrative Mandate), which I believe would be the proper writ to file in the case of one who was previously denied prior to NYSRPA and would compel an administrative agency (LASD) to reverse their final decision or order. Though, it looks like there is a statute of limitations by which time the petition for writ must be filed.

                        I believe a Writ of Ordinary Mandamus (Ordinary Mandate) would be the route to take if a collective of applicants were inclined to simply light a fire under the LASD to compel the agency to speed up the general processing timeline.
                        I would think CRPA would have their Attorney write them up, leave blanks for your name and dates. Basically a fill in the blanks and file. I doubt Sheriff V even cares if you file, he knows what the law is, isn't complying, he will just dig in as he has with other issues.

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                        • boredin818
                          Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 218

                          Originally posted by Brandon H
                          Updated my signature with my dates. Hopefully it will come soon (proceed with training email). I might just go ahead and schedule
                          I passed all 3 backgrounds on 8-20, I'm going to training next Saturday no matter if they send me the email or not
                          "A gun is not a weapon Marge! It's a tool, like a butcher knife, or a harpoon or uhh uhhh an alligator" - Homer Simpson

                          "It seems to me that if a gun can protect something as important as a bar, it's good enough to protect my family" - Homer Simpson

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                          • skeeter149
                            Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 245

                            I'm in lancaster waiting for the interview call. Seems like I'm gonna be told to go to Monterey Park. Does that sound right? Granted I have like 7 to 8 months from what I read. I'm 2 months in still haven't got to my app

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                            • ProRoad
                              Member
                              • Apr 2022
                              • 350

                              .

                              Originally posted by skeeter149
                              I'm in lancaster waiting for the interview call. Seems like I'm gonna be told to go to Monterey Park. Does that sound right? Granted I have like 7 to 8 months from what I read. I'm 2 months in still haven't got to my app
                              My interview was here in Santa Clarita, near where I live.

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                              • sfvpool
                                Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 321

                                Originally posted by skeeter149
                                I'm in lancaster waiting for the interview call. Seems like I'm gonna be told to go to Monterey Park. Does that sound right? Granted I have like 7 to 8 months from what I read. I'm 2 months in still haven't got to my app
                                I live in Lancaster and had to go to Monterey Park.
                                Individual rights are not subject to a public vote; a majority has no right to vote away the rights of a minority; the political function of rights is precisely to protect minorities from oppression by majorities (and the smallest minority on earth is the individual).
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