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  • seaweedsoyboy
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2019
    • 747

    Originally posted by krow4ever
    Have you seen anyone here post that they were not instructed to proceed with Livescan after their interview? I would feel ripped off if I had to pay over $100 for Livescan and then get denied later, even though your record is clean.
    02.28.22 - Application mailed
    07.13.22 - Live Scan complete
    11.03.22 - Interview
    01.14.23 - Proceed to training authorization
    01.21.23 - Cert submitted
    01.23.23 - Acknowledged receipt
    03.12.23 - Call to schedule pickup
    04.07.23 - Permit issued

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    • Glockster818
      Member
      • Jun 2021
      • 377

      Originally posted by krow4ever
      Have you seen anyone here post that they were not instructed to proceed with Livescan after their interview? I would feel ripped off if I had to pay over $100 for Livescan and then get denied later, even though your record is clean.
      It is highly unlikely but you can still be denied. It isn't cheap to do the livescan. A lot of people just do their livescan and training without even being told to do so.

      If you get the email to do the training, I think at that point you're approved.
      Applied on 04/5/2021
      Check Cashed 5/15/2021
      Call for interview 6/24/2021
      Interview 6/28/2021
      Call requesting add docs 01/10/2022
      Livescan 02/04/2022
      Livescan clears 03/29/2022
      Email for training 04-04-2022
      Training docs received by unit 04/06/2022
      Call to pickup 04/27/2022

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      • stoogescv
        Member
        • Mar 2021
        • 244

        Originally posted by Glockster818
        It is highly unlikely but you can still be denied. It isn't cheap to do the livescan. A lot of people just do their livescan and training without even being told to do so.

        If you get the email to do the training, I think at that point you're approved.
        Since virtually everyone is told to get their livescan done, I think it is highly likely that almost all of the people who have been denied (I think more than 50% of all applicants get denied) have had their livescan done.

        The training email is a different story, as noted by others. Once you get the training email, it means they have approved your "good cause."

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        • Gnzrme
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 908

          When did you mail your app?

          Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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          • Glockster818
            Member
            • Jun 2021
            • 377

            Originally posted by stoogescv
            Since virtually everyone is told to get their livescan done, I think it is highly likely that almost all of the people who have been denied (I think more than 50% of all applicants get denied) have had their livescan done.

            The training email is a different story, as noted by others. Once you get the training email, it means they have approved your "good cause."
            For my case, I was not told to do my livescan at the time of the interview. It took them a while to give me the okay to go forth with it. I've been on this forum for a while now and about 70% of the people just do their livescan right away without even being told to do so.

            Again, I think it is wrong for them to say "hey go do the livescan" because it's not cheap at all.
            Applied on 04/5/2021
            Check Cashed 5/15/2021
            Call for interview 6/24/2021
            Interview 6/28/2021
            Call requesting add docs 01/10/2022
            Livescan 02/04/2022
            Livescan clears 03/29/2022
            Email for training 04-04-2022
            Training docs received by unit 04/06/2022
            Call to pickup 04/27/2022

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            • LARES
              Member
              • Aug 2020
              • 234

              @Glockster when I invterview back in April 2021 my interviewing deputy said that EVERYONE should be told to proceed with livescan
              GC: Yellowish/Light Green
              App submitted: 4/15
              Check cashed: 4/23
              Call for interview: 7/21
              Interview: 7/27
              Livescan: 8/2
              CA/FBI complete: 8/2
              Firearms Complete: 8/21
              Training email: TBD

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              • krow4ever
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2021
                • 48

                Originally posted by Gnzrme
                When did you mail your app?

                Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
                Our timeline is somewhat similar so you should be getting your phone call any day now.

                7/2/21 Certified mail recv'd.
                8/9/21 Check cashed.
                2/15/22 Recv'd call for interview
                3/9/22 Interview Day
                6/30/21 - Mailed Application, GC: Dark Green
                7/2/21 - Application Received
                8/9/21 - Check cashed
                2/25/22 - Call for interview on 3/9/22
                3/9/22 - Interviewed, GC modified: added Yellow
                3/9/22 - CA & FBI completed, 5/18 Firearms completed
                3/13/22 - Completed training (Preemptively)
                6/23/22 - Emailed training certificate
                7/18/22 - Received call for pickup
                7/20/22 - Picked up permit - The End

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                • Glockster818
                  Member
                  • Jun 2021
                  • 377

                  Originally posted by LARES
                  @Glockster when I invterview back in April 2021 my interviewing deputy said that EVERYONE should be told to proceed with livescan
                  Yeah, I was told to hold off. I think it depends on your investigator or whoever is calling the shots.
                  Applied on 04/5/2021
                  Check Cashed 5/15/2021
                  Call for interview 6/24/2021
                  Interview 6/28/2021
                  Call requesting add docs 01/10/2022
                  Livescan 02/04/2022
                  Livescan clears 03/29/2022
                  Email for training 04-04-2022
                  Training docs received by unit 04/06/2022
                  Call to pickup 04/27/2022

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                  • REDHORSE
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 1554

                    Originally posted by Sure Shot 45
                    What is the firearm livescan? I thought the livescan was a background check for the applicant not the firearm, am I missing something here?
                    Originally posted by wtwilton
                    I've been wondering the same when I was reading that on multiple posts.

                    Livescan is essentially three parts:
                    1. CA DOJ Criminal (Statewide) Background check - passes relatively quickly, sometimes the same day.
                    2. FBI Criminal (Federal) Background check - passes relatively quickly, sometimes the same day.
                    3. FIREARMS Eligibility check- this typically takes the longest to pass of the three parts, sometimes weeks/months
                    http://i.imgur.com/A7z6dHc.pngCGF & CGN/CGSSA Contributor


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                    • LrdVaderZ
                      Member
                      • Oct 2020
                      • 379

                      Originally posted by REDHORSE
                      Livescan is essentially three parts:
                      1. CA DOJ Criminal (Statewide) Background check - passes relatively quickly, sometimes the same day.
                      2. FBI Criminal (Federal) Background check - passes relatively quickly, sometimes the same day.
                      3. FIREARMS Eligibility check- this typically takes the longest to pass of the three parts, sometimes weeks/months
                      Too bad there is no way to short-circuit the eligibility check even if you have the Certificate that confirms your eligibility already
                      *AZ/UT Permits*
                      Picked up California one 6/2/23

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                      • Glockster818
                        Member
                        • Jun 2021
                        • 377

                        Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
                        Too bad there is no way to short-circuit the eligibility check even if you have the Certificate that confirms your eligibility already
                        Yeah, if you go back and read other posts and timelines the firearms section would clear in a few days or a couple weeks MAX. Now it is taking over a month. They probably have a lot of on their plate or understaffed.

                        Has anyone done the livescan recently and had it cleared? If so how long, just to give an idea?
                        Applied on 04/5/2021
                        Check Cashed 5/15/2021
                        Call for interview 6/24/2021
                        Interview 6/28/2021
                        Call requesting add docs 01/10/2022
                        Livescan 02/04/2022
                        Livescan clears 03/29/2022
                        Email for training 04-04-2022
                        Training docs received by unit 04/06/2022
                        Call to pickup 04/27/2022

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                        • LrdVaderZ
                          Member
                          • Oct 2020
                          • 379

                          Originally posted by Glockster818
                          Yeah, if you go back and read other posts and timelines the firearms section would clear in a few days or a couple weeks MAX. Now it is taking over a month. They probably have a lot of on their plate or understaffed.

                          Has anyone done the livescan recently and had it cleared? If so how long, just to give an idea?
                          It's just I would have thought that those who got the COE would have some kind of mark on their file, stating that there is already approval in force - that's how I've been getting my ammo without bothering with background checks - they just verify my COE number
                          *AZ/UT Permits*
                          Picked up California one 6/2/23

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                          • Glockster818
                            Member
                            • Jun 2021
                            • 377

                            Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
                            It's just I would have thought that those who got the COE would have some kind of mark on their file, stating that there is already approval in force - that's how I've been getting my ammo without bothering with background checks - they just verify my COE number
                            Same here, I agree with you. Shouldn't take too long.
                            Applied on 04/5/2021
                            Check Cashed 5/15/2021
                            Call for interview 6/24/2021
                            Interview 6/28/2021
                            Call requesting add docs 01/10/2022
                            Livescan 02/04/2022
                            Livescan clears 03/29/2022
                            Email for training 04-04-2022
                            Training docs received by unit 04/06/2022
                            Call to pickup 04/27/2022

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                            • Paul49
                              Member
                              • May 2016
                              • 230

                              Originally posted by REDHORSE
                              Livescan is essentially three parts:
                              1. CA DOJ Criminal (Statewide) Background check - passes relatively quickly, sometimes the same day.
                              2. FBI Criminal (Federal) Background check - passes relatively quickly, sometimes the same day.
                              3. FIREARMS Eligibility check- this typically takes the longest to pass of the three parts, sometimes weeks/months
                              I look at the Live Scan as part of their assessment of “good moral character” since it includes criminal background checks in addition to the firearms eligibility whatever else that means.

                              If it is part of the GMC, then it is an integral part of the assessment that must be done along with Good Cause review to make a final determination about whether or not to refer to training.

                              That would make the LIve Scan an unavoidable expense for all candidates unless there is something so wrong with good cause or other aspects of the candidate at the time of interview, that the application is toast.
                              4/19/21 applied, 8/31 Whittier interview.
                              11/17 PTT email, docs sent 11/18
                              12/13 call for pick up, picked up 12/15/21.
                              Utah CCW since March 2018 and Arizona since June 2022
                              Mailed renewal 5/8/23, online 11/6, interview 11/15
                              11/26 PTT and docs submitted, 11/29 approved
                              Pickup 12/20

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                              • Glockster818
                                Member
                                • Jun 2021
                                • 377

                                Yours cleared in about 10 days, not its taking over a month.
                                Applied on 04/5/2021
                                Check Cashed 5/15/2021
                                Call for interview 6/24/2021
                                Interview 6/28/2021
                                Call requesting add docs 01/10/2022
                                Livescan 02/04/2022
                                Livescan clears 03/29/2022
                                Email for training 04-04-2022
                                Training docs received by unit 04/06/2022
                                Call to pickup 04/27/2022

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