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  • Mute
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 8496

    Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
    Problem is not what I own, but for example, let's say you have an Falcon NW's gaming rig that costs over 10,000$ and you call me to fix/upgrade/whatever. I come over and pick it up to take to my place that's better equipped to work on something this complex. I do what you wanted me to do, and now I'm delivering it back to you. I don't have invoices/receipts from the PCs that I work on for my clients, best I can do is print out, for example (in this case) Falcon's site's default model prices and show them.
    I understand what you're saying (I usually build my own PC's). However, if you wish to get a CCW permit, you have to approach this from the perspective of the issuing agency. While the value of the items can be proven, your possession of those items can't unless you have some documentation process. For future attempt at getting a permit, and I know this sounds like a pain, consider using a form with your and your customer's signature agreeing to the itemized receipt of items (computer and/or parts), along with estimated value and then a signature upon return of these items. I know it can be bothersome to do all of this for a relatively simple business process, but if you can document these transactions, it will probably go a long way in supporting your GC.
    Last edited by Mute; 10-02-2021, 9:06 PM.
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    • Paul49
      Member
      • May 2016
      • 230

      Originally posted by Mute
      I understand what you're saying (I usually build my own PC's). However, if you wish to get a CCW permit, you have to approach this from the perspective of the issuing agency. While the value of the items can be proven, your possession of those items can't unless you have some documentation process. For future attempt at getting a permit, and I know this sounds like a pain, consider using a form with your and your customer's signature agreeing to the itemized receipt of items (computer and/or parts), along with estimated value and then a signature upon return of these items. I know it can be bothersome to do all of this for a relatively simple business process, but if you can document these transactions, it will probably go a long way in supporting your GC.
      4/19/21 applied, 8/31 Whittier interview.
      11/17 PTT email, docs sent 11/18
      12/13 call for pick up, picked up 12/15/21.
      Utah CCW since March 2018 and Arizona since June 2022
      Mailed renewal 5/8/23, online 11/6, interview 11/15
      11/26 PTT and docs submitted, 11/29 approved
      Pickup 12/20

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      • seaweedsoyboy
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2019
        • 747

        Originally posted by Paul49
        This is exactly what I was thinking. When you return a computer to a customer, if there is no paper trail, what stops them from saying “hey, this was a fully loaded XYZ. You lifted memory out of it, or swapped in a smaller hard drive?” Paper trail of itemized receipts, takes a little time, but protects you in addition to rebuilding a better GC for next time.

        My light green recreational GC included 1) camping/hiking, snowshoeing and 2) going to shooting competitions with expensive guns. I presented a spread sheet of each gun, it’s basic cost and the cost of the upgrades. My deputy said his LT was going to need receipts for the upgrades on two of the guns. Searched through my online order history at multiple websites then retrieved, printed and scanned the invoices for all the parts as well as the DROS originals.

        Waiting to be sent to training or to be denied…….
        I did the same for (2), brought all to my interview w/ DROS for all listed guns and purchase confirmations of those listed firearms and their respective accessories. My interviewing deputy said he was only interested in the DROS records for the 3 handguns I intended to list on my permit…
        02.28.22 - Application mailed
        07.13.22 - Live Scan complete
        11.03.22 - Interview
        01.14.23 - Proceed to training authorization
        01.21.23 - Cert submitted
        01.23.23 - Acknowledged receipt
        03.12.23 - Call to schedule pickup
        04.07.23 - Permit issued

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        • LrdVaderZ
          Member
          • Oct 2020
          • 379

          I am starting to think that it's the new LT, since prior to that change, things went with alot less friction
          *AZ/UT Permits*
          Picked up California one 6/2/23

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          • seaweedsoyboy
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2019
            • 747

            Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
            I am starting to think that it's the new LT, since prior to that change, things went with alot less friction
            My interview was a bit over 2 months ago though to be fair.
            02.28.22 - Application mailed
            07.13.22 - Live Scan complete
            11.03.22 - Interview
            01.14.23 - Proceed to training authorization
            01.21.23 - Cert submitted
            01.23.23 - Acknowledged receipt
            03.12.23 - Call to schedule pickup
            04.07.23 - Permit issued

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            • LrdVaderZ
              Member
              • Oct 2020
              • 379

              Originally posted by seaweedsoyboy
              My interview was a bit over 2 months ago though to be fair.
              Good point. Let's see how things will develop further, but I'll hold off on re-applying for now, will see what SCOTUS will do
              *AZ/UT Permits*
              Picked up California one 6/2/23

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              • seaweedsoyboy
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2019
                • 747

                Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
                Good point. Let's see how things will develop further, but I'll hold off on re-applying for now, will see what SCOTUS will do
                02.28.22 - Application mailed
                07.13.22 - Live Scan complete
                11.03.22 - Interview
                01.14.23 - Proceed to training authorization
                01.21.23 - Cert submitted
                01.23.23 - Acknowledged receipt
                03.12.23 - Call to schedule pickup
                04.07.23 - Permit issued

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                • LrdVaderZ
                  Member
                  • Oct 2020
                  • 379

                  Give SCOTUS time to look at NY CCW case, I hope it will propagate "Shall" rather than "May" rule
                  *AZ/UT Permits*
                  Picked up California one 6/2/23

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                  • seaweedsoyboy
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 747

                    … from post #16 in this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...2#post26219592

                    Originally posted by madland
                    More recreational. We camp in the desert. But also tied in the current climate in our society with regards to skyrocketing crime and homelessness and all the other crap that comes with living in a blue/failed state. (Without getting too political in my statement.) A well-known MC also has some members living nearby doing their thing.
                    Wtf is going on with these inconsistencies?
                    02.28.22 - Application mailed
                    07.13.22 - Live Scan complete
                    11.03.22 - Interview
                    01.14.23 - Proceed to training authorization
                    01.21.23 - Cert submitted
                    01.23.23 - Acknowledged receipt
                    03.12.23 - Call to schedule pickup
                    04.07.23 - Permit issued

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                    • Lockdown.-
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2020
                      • 909

                      Cuban,

                      I'm glad your interviewing deputy changed your LC to yellow on the spot.
                      Lockdown
                      2.3.21 Applied | 4.14.21 Interview | 5.19.21 LiveScan & Training | 6.23.21 Issued
                      3.30.23 Renewal | 8.xx.23 Interview | 8.xx.23 Training | 9.xx.23 Issued
                      Mrs. Lockdown
                      4.20.21 Applied | 6.4.21 LiveScan Clears | 7.22.21 Interview & Training Submitted | 11.9.21 Issued
                      4.3.23 Renewal | 9.xx.23 Interview | 8.xx.23 Training | 9.xx.23 Issued

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                      • anonymouscuban
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2017
                        • 1440

                        Originally posted by Lockdown.-
                        Cuban,



                        I'm glad your interviewing deputy changed your LC to yellow on the spot.
                        Yup. Me too. But I'm still keeping my expectations low.

                        ________________________________
                        Yellow/Light Green GC
                        04/19 - Application Submitted
                        08/31 - Call for Interview
                        09/16 - Interview Completed
                        09/16 - Live Scan Started
                        09/16 - FBI Completed
                        09/17 - Training Completed
                        09/20 - CA Completed
                        09/21 - Firearms Completed


                        REELECT SHERIFF VILLANUEVA

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                        • shadow77phl
                          Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 100

                          THAT is the spirit brother! Attaboy!
                          Re-Elect Sheriff AV 2022
                          app sent: 06/21/21
                          app received: 06/24/21
                          check cashed: 07/29/21
                          call for interview: 02/24/22
                          interview: 03/01/22
                          livescan, CA DOJ & FBI: 03/01/22; FA: 05/04/22
                          training: 06/04/22; proceed to training email: 08/23/22
                          pick up call: 10/17/22; pick up: 10/19/22
                          GC: Yellow/ Profession

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                          • LrdVaderZ
                            Member
                            • Oct 2020
                            • 379

                            I wonder if while I'm pondering re-applying, whether I should get AZ and UT CCWs
                            in the meantime
                            *AZ/UT Permits*
                            Picked up California one 6/2/23

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                            • LrdVaderZ
                              Member
                              • Oct 2020
                              • 379

                              I wonder if while I'm pondering re-applying, whether I should get AZ and UT CCWs
                              in the meantime
                              *AZ/UT Permits*
                              Picked up California one 6/2/23

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                              • seaweedsoyboy
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Feb 2019
                                • 747

                                Originally posted by LrdVaderZ
                                I wonder if while I'm pondering re-applying, whether I should get AZ and UT CCWs
                                in the meantime
                                All you have to do for AZ is print/fill out the app, cut a check, include proof of training, and mail them the packet. I think CA training is accepted but idk, I used a copy of my old TN CCW as proof I had done training.
                                02.28.22 - Application mailed
                                07.13.22 - Live Scan complete
                                11.03.22 - Interview
                                01.14.23 - Proceed to training authorization
                                01.21.23 - Cert submitted
                                01.23.23 - Acknowledged receipt
                                03.12.23 - Call to schedule pickup
                                04.07.23 - Permit issued

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