For those under 21...

[doughboy334]

Here is the family pic:

Long guns left to right:
Charles Daly Field Tactical 12GA, Savage Mark II .22LR, Japanese Arisaka Type 99, British Enfield .303, M91/30, Norinco SKS, Retro 604 AR Build.
Handguns:
Ruger Pre-Mark I, Kimber Stainless II .45, Glock 19 9mm

get those sportorized beauties back in original stocks

[Linus]

Not sure about a handgun for my 21st b-day but I already have the forms for my C&R license.

[thejackamo]

Less than 11 months (December baby) until I become 21. The only problem is I dont have a utility bill or valid registration with my name on it so Im screwed when it comes to showing another form of residency. But I still can dream right?

If you have a valid voter registration card, it is acceptable - I used mine to buy my first handgun (posted below ). Some places might give you grief, but it is a form that is issued by the state containing your full name and address, so by all means it should be accepted. If you're unsure, ask your FFL and they should be able to get a concrete answer for you (although I've had some different experiences, so YMMV).


On that note, here's my first pistol:

[xibunkrlilkidsx]

I turn 21 in june, my gf turns 21 march 21st. and she is letting me know about it every day. cuz she knows how bad i want a handgun, ahlf tempted to have her buy a handgun so i can use it than transfer it to me when i turn 21.

1st pistol. 1911 of some make. Probably a Springfield Armory Milspec or GI. Or a 1911 that is Parkerized, i like the old look that they have.

[vinny_land]

If you have a valid voter registration card, it is acceptable - I used mine to buy my first handgun (posted below ). Some places might give you grief, but it is a form that is issued by the state containing your full name and address, so by all means it should be accepted. If you're unsure, ask your FFL and they should be able to get a concrete answer for you (although I've had some different experiences, so YMMV).

Thanks thejackamo I'll give it a try when I turn 21 this December. And welcome to CGN!

[rojocorsa]

My first purchase will be either a SIG P229 or a Kimber Custom II Warrior or Desert Warrior (same gun, different color/finish)



That's the Warrior and the next one is the Desert version.

[SCUDhunter]

So its possible to obtain a handgun before you're 21 here? I already own an SKS and a Winchester 1300 Defender, I'd love to add a handgun to round out the long guns. Could someone describe for me the entire process of obtaining a handgun before you're 18? For some reason I didn't think intra-familial transfers were ok even if you were over 18 but under 21. I'm also well aware of the silly HSC. Also I live in Orange County and the only ranges near me are handguns only, so when I shoot I have to drive a ways and having a handgun would be just plain convenient. Does anyone who owns a handgun and isn't 21 have any trouble at ranges? Where do you guys go?

[thejackamo]

So its possible to obtain a handgun before you're 21 here? I already own an SKS and a Winchester 1300 Defender, I'd love to add a handgun to round out the long guns. Could someone describe for me the entire process of obtaining a handgun before you're 18? For some reason I didn't think intra-familial transfers were ok even if you were over 18 but under 21. I'm also well aware of the silly HSC. Also I live in Orange County and the only ranges near me are handguns only, so when I shoot I have to drive a ways and having a handgun would be just plain convenient. Does anyone who owns a handgun and isn't 21 have any trouble at ranges? Where do you guys go?

I believe a PTP intra-family transfer is OK if you're under 18 (has to come from either your mother or father). From what I understand, it is legal to OWN a handgun if you're over 18 and under 21, but it is not possible to BUY a handgun. You can also get your HSC is you're over 18 as well. Let me check the applicable laws and post back.

EDIT: A-ha! Found it: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=124237

(4) 12078(c)(2) also means parents or grandparents can transfer handguns to children or grandchildren 18 or older. Since it's illegal for dealers to transfer handguns to people under 21, this is the way people 18, 19 and 20 can legally receive handguns. (Penal Code 12026 is quite clear that those 18 and over can "own, possess, [and] keep ..." a pistol or revolver.)

So if your parents had a handgun and wanted to transfer it to you (make sure to fill out and submit this form along with the $19 fee: http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/oplaw.pdf), then you'd be good to go. HOWEVER (this is a really stupid one), it is illegal for anyone under 21 to buy pistol ammunition (federal law, not just CA). BUT

[dfens]

The Desert Warrior is not on the list so you can't buy one. I saw one the other day it said LEO only on the tag for good reason.

[mydogsmonkey]

i can't wait til im 21. in 3 months, ill be 19, only two more years after that! woo
crawling there slowly, in the meantime, im gonna do some research on what to get
thinking maybe a 1911 and CZ 2075 as first pistols, will figure it out eventually

[vinny_land]

^ I can feel your pain but time goes by fast especially when you are in college and/or working. It felt like yesterday when I bought my first rifle and joined calguns. Best advice is to save up money to buy the guns you want and do research on them. Only 9 more months until I turn 21.

[mydogsmonkey]

^ I can feel your pain but time goes by fast especially when you are in college and/or working. It felt like yesterday when I bought my first rifle and joined calguns. Best advice is to save up money to buy the guns you want and do research on them. Only 9 more months until I turn 21.

nice choose well!

[pklin1297]

My first gun when I turned 21 was a Kimber Custom Stainless Series I Full Size... Ah the memories...

[ghuff]

Well here's my first post..


I'll be 21 august and I'm planning to go through all the trouble of getting a .44 desert eagle, as my first pistol purchase, then buying the 50ae barrel and changing it out. Im a pretty big guy, but this purchase is going to be just for the novelty of it all..hopefully I can find a used one for a pretty good deal on the classifieds.

I have a question though, is there anything you have to go through once you turn 21 in order to began buying pistols? Or is it just showing proof of age and all the other legalities.

[andrewj]

Well here's my first post..


I'll be 21 august and I'm planning to go through all the trouble of getting a .44 desert eagle, as my first pistol purchase, then buying the 50ae barrel and changing it out. Im a pretty big guy, but this purchase is going to be just for the novelty of it all..hopefully I can find a used one for a pretty good deal on the classifieds.

I have a question though, is there anything you have to go through once you turn 21 in order to began buying pistols? Or is it just showing proof of age and all the other legalities.

Welcome!


Here it is all spelled out on the Bureau of Firearms website:

All firearms purchases and transfers, including private party transactions and sales at gun shows, must be made through a licensed dealer under the Dealer Record of Sale (DROS) process. California imposes a 10-day waiting period before a firearm can be released to a buyer or transferee. A person must be at least 18 years of age to purchase a rifle or shotgun. To buy a handgun, a person must be at least 21 years of age, and either 1) possess an HSC plus successfully complete a safety demonstration with the handgun being purchased or 2) qualify for an HSC exemption.

As part of the DROS process, the buyer must present "clear evidence of identity and age" which is defined as a valid, non-expired California Driver's License or Identification Card issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles. A military identification accompanied by permanent duty station orders indicating a posting in California is also acceptable.

If the buyer is not a U.S. Citizen, then he or she is required to demonstrate that he or she is legally within the United States by providing to the firearms dealer with documentation that contains his/her Alien Registration Number or I-94 Number.

Purchasers of handguns are also required to provide proof of California residency, such as a utility bill, residential lease, property deed, or government-issued identification (other than a drivers license or other DMV-issued identification).

Proof of residency may be tough for people of our age because some of us still live at home and dont pay any bills. I still cant get a absolute answer if the voter registation card works or not either.