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  • #16
    CAL.BAR
    CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
    • Nov 2007
    • 5632

    Originally posted by stan
    so now with these new *fun* items will they only be transferrable to those who have the appropriate paperwork, i.e. NFA trust, or CLEO sign-off?
    Right - in other words - no one.
    Love Mike to death but telling us all about his SOT is like showing us girls we can't kiss!

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    • #17
      cedricxerxes
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Dec 2007
      • 113

      Hallelujah & Congratulations! Thanks for doing this.

      How long did it take ATF to process your Class 3 SOT?
      NRA Benefactor Member / CRPA Life Member

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      • #18
        stan
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 1322

        Originally posted by djandj
        Right - in other words - no one.
        Love Mike to death but telling us all about his SOT is like showing us girls we can't kiss!
        not true at all! the quicken willmaker route is DIY and cheap. and even paying an attorney, iirc, is like 600-1000. considering the money people spend on optics and uppers, its not much to be allowed to play with a whole new class of weapon!

        i think telling us he got his SOT is just damning a whole lot of people to being in trouble with their significant other if anything LOL
        SCALIA: WTF are you talking about? We can incorporate it under due process. I hate due process and I even think that.
        GURA: Uhhh
        SCALIA: Are you trying to get a job at a law school?
        GURA: ....Oh s***
        SCALIA: SERIOUSLY STFU IF WE USE PRIVILEGES AND IMMUNITIES THESE F***OS WILL LEGITIMIZE EVERYTHING STFU STFU STFU
        GURA: But you hate due process
        SCALIA: I LIKE IT NOW

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        • #19
          n2k
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 1513

          Originally posted by OCArmory
          . Also we are working on finding a local attorney that will help with NFA trusts at a reasonable cost. For the do it yourselfers there is always quicken willmaker. There are plenty of NFA boards that will show you what to change in the trust.
          Mike
          Oaklander was offering the service, but here was his update....



          Original Post:

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          • #20
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by djandj
            Right - in other words - no one.
            Love Mike to death but telling us all about his SOT is like showing us girls we can't kiss!
            Mike got his SOT in order to sell to the public, not for LEO sales. His post was not a, "look what I have and you don't". People have been looking for a SoCal SOT willing to deal with the public for a couple years, and now we have one. WOO-HOO!!

            As mentioned, getting a trust set up isn't that hard to do.
            Last edited by ke6guj; 02-18-2010, 11:50 AM.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #21
              Rooftop Voter
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 841

              oh SWEET! So you guys could have a Serbu Super Shorty sometime in the near future???
              I pledge allegiance to the Eagle with the MP5 of the United Police States of America, and to the fallen Republic which once stood, the New World Order under our new overlords, divided, with tyranny and injustice for all.
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              • #22
                OCArmory
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 1321

                I will be ordering from them today.
                Mike

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                • #23
                  CAL.BAR
                  CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5632

                  Originally posted by stan
                  not true at all! the quicken willmaker route is DIY and cheap. and even paying an attorney, iirc, is like 600-1000. considering the money people spend on optics and uppers, its not much to be allowed to play with a whole new class of weapon!

                  i think telling us he got his SOT is just damning a whole lot of people to being in trouble with their significant other if anything LOL
                  I was referring to most of the things the SOT deals with (i.e. MG's silencers AW's etc.) AOW is just a small backwater of the SOT world.

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                  • #24
                    Blueberry556
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 32

                    Originally posted by ke6guj
                    yes, NFA trust or CLEO sign-off.
                    Originally posted by OCArmory
                    Or corporation. The only downside to that route is there is a minimum tax in California of $800 on corporations. But if you already have one..... Also we are working on finding a local attorney that will help with NFA trusts at a reasonable cost. For the do it yourselfers there is always quicken willmaker. There are plenty of NFA boards that will show you what to change in the trust.
                    Mike


                    I was informed of this at SHOT Show and would like to say thank you for providing this much-needed service. I plan to stop by at the next opportunity to offer you medical gear (trauma kits) to resell and oogle the NFAocity. I was planning to go the NFA Trust route, but the CLEO signoff sounds intriguing. Does the CLEO have to be for the city or county you live in, or just any?

                    edit: I read further: Is this an 'or' or 'and' situation with CLEO signoff? i.e. Trust + CLEO <or> Trust -or- CLEO
                    Last edited by Blueberry556; 03-11-2010, 7:01 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Rooftop Voter
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 841

                      Its an either or not both situation!
                      I pledge allegiance to the Eagle with the MP5 of the United Police States of America, and to the fallen Republic which once stood, the New World Order under our new overlords, divided, with tyranny and injustice for all.
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                      • #26
                        PRODRIVE
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1562

                        i want this

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                        • #27
                          ke6guj
                          Moderator
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 23725

                          Originally posted by Blueberry556
                          I was informed of this at SHOT Show and would like to say thank you for providing this much-needed service. I plan to stop by at the next opportunity to offer you medical gear (trauma kits) to resell and oogle the NFAocity. I was planning to go the NFA Trust route, but the CLEO signoff sounds intriguing. Does the CLEO have to be for the city or county you live in, or just any?

                          edit: I read further: Is this an 'or' or 'and' situation with CLEO signoff? i.e. Trust + CLEO <or> Trust -or- CLEO
                          Its Trust OR CLEO. Allowable CLEO sign-offs include the Sheriff of your County, The Chief of Police of your city, and various other people, such as the DA of your County, Judges that hear felony cases, and other people that ATF may accept a signature from. If you have a Trust, you do not need a CLEO sign-off.

                          Originally posted by PRODRIVE
                          i want this
                          those are legal in CA. Items just like that have been been imported, bought, or had made in CA legally.
                          Jack



                          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

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                          • #28
                            mrlonewolf
                            CGSSA Director - C3 Leader & Regional Gun Show Booth Coordinator (LA/OC/IE)
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3980

                            Congrats Mike & crew.
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                            • #29
                              glockwise2000
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 2534

                              Congrats Mike.
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                              • #30
                                tenpercentfirearms
                                Vendor/Retailer
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 13007

                                I might have to get into this SOT thing. I think I want a 12" shotgun for my CCW permit.

                                Where is the mega AOW thread. I think I need to start getting into the SOT business. We need a north of LA source.
                                Last edited by tenpercentfirearms; 03-12-2010, 6:52 AM.
                                www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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