COE + FFL03

[rice_man]

Went online Aug 01 to renew my COE which expires on Sept 12. Attached a pic of CDL front and a Copy of my FFL03. I didn't bother to enter the number in the comments. Got my approval this morning.

Renewal Application completed AUG 01
Notification of Approval on AUG 03

Easy peasy.

[revy]

7. Acquiring ammunition from a person within CA without needing to utilize a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor. [PC 30312(c)(6)](6) & 30314(b)(5)]

Hello can you explain this in more detail? I'm not quite able to grasp this.

[boomstarship]

Hello can you explain this in more detail? I'm not quite able to grasp this.

With an FFL03+COE you can order ammo on the internet and have it shipped directly to you. You don't need to send it to a local FFL and have them run the eligibility check (most shops charge $20 or more for this). There's a list of online vendors that will ship to you directly in CA (if you have an FFL03+COE): https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...40&postcount=1

[SkyHawk]

Hello can you explain this in more detail? I'm not quite able to grasp this.

It means you can buy/acquire ammo directly from private CA sellers without having to visit a FFL to do an ammo transfer

[Chanelbomb]

Towards the bottom of this link https://www.atf.gov/firearms/federal-firearms-licenses there are (is?) a phone number and an email address to check application status.

Thank you sonnyt650

And In case anyone is curious the email address at the bottom the above url worked. I emailed inquiring about my approval and they responded the next day and said they would mail out another copy. Which I know have. Pretty good for the alphabet bois.

[d0190535]

New to the scene and have a question with 03FFL/COE. I saw several threads that many shops don’t ship ammos to addresses within LA county, is that still the case now? Just wanted to confirm before I apply. Thanks all

[Quiet]

New to the scene and have a question with 03FFL/COE. I saw several threads that many shops don?t ship ammos to addresses within LA county, is that still the case now? Just wanted to confirm before I apply. Thanks all

Some CA counties/cities have ordinances that prohibits/restricts who can legally receive ammunition shipments.
^This is why ammo vendors will not ship ammo to certain CA counties/cities.

You need to check your county and city ordinances to see if you live in an area that has those types of restrictions.

[DuckDawg22]

In reading through these threads, can one apply for an FFL03 + COE for the exclusive purpose of buying ammo online? Obviously you'd use the "collect antiques" in the reason during the application, but what would happen in the event of an ATF audit if your log only showed online ammo sales? While the process is somewhat involved, it also doesn't seem overly difficult either. Given the huge discounts available from online purchases, why WOULDN'T you get your FFL03?

[Quiet]

In reading through these threads, can one apply for an FFL03 + COE for the exclusive purpose of buying ammo online? Obviously you'd use the "collect antiques" in the reason during the application, but what would happen in the event of an ATF audit if your log only showed online ammo sales? While the process is somewhat involved, it also doesn't seem overly difficult either. Given the huge discounts available from online purchases, why WOULDN'T you get your FFL03?

There is no legal requirement for a C&R 03-FFL to log any type of ammunition transactions.

There is no legal requirement for a person with a valid COE, for being a collector, to log any type of ammunition transactions.

[PrayForAmerica]

I read this entire thread, and I have one further question:

Cost (if I read correctly) includes LiveScan fee, plus $30 to the ATF.

What about renewal? Is there an ongoing cost to maintain the COE/FFL03?

Edit:
Maybe I'm off on my estimations...
A Reddit user posted:
Costs of getting a COE + FFL03 being; $30 FFL03, $71 initial COE, $30 LiveScan and $20 for the logbook = $151 upfront.
On top of that, it's another thing to remember to renew, which is $22/yr renewal on the COE and (basically) $10/yr (or $30/3yrs) for the FFL03.

Is that accurate?

Thanks!

[Sevillju]

Started my FFL03 and COE journey today.

Progression:

12/12/2023: Mailed in FFL, completed Livescan and submitted COE

[dC0m]

Started my FFL03 + COE back in late NOV, here we go:

11/27/2023: Form 7/7CR + COE Application submitted + Live Scan completed
12/1/2023: ATF Charged Credit Card
12/13/2023: CA DOJ emailed asking for FFL 03 number, responded same day

[Makeitsojlm]

I submitted my application in October. The check was cashed on the 31st. I already have the COE. I haven’t heard a peep from the ATF on the status of the application yet.

I sent an email inquiry to the ATF today. I have no idea what information they would need to find me in their system. I only gave my full name.

Jack

[PrayForAmerica]

Okay fantastic. Super interesting on all your processes. Maybe next payday in January I will start the process. I'll be curious to hear the updates as they come.

[dC0m]

Update:

11/27/2023: Form 7/7CR + COE Application submitted + Live Scan completed
12/1/2023: ATF Charged Credit Card
12/13/2023: CA DOJ emailed asking for FFL 03 number, responded same day
12/15/2023: CA COE issued, still waiting on FFL 03