why do so many come in here and BASH COPS

[matrix056]

Everyone wants to bash LEO's until they call 911......

[Fire in the Hole]

Everyone wants to bash LEO's until they call 911......

Perhaps this will shed a little light on the subject

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL5P4tkOpTA

[ZirconJohn]

Perhaps this will shed a little light on the subject

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL5P4tkOpTA

Haha... That's a funny video!

[TRICKSTER]

What I don't understand is why these people come here to bash cops that are supporting many of the same causes that they believe in. As Police Officers, they are exempt from many of the foolish gun laws that most people complain about. They could just say sc**w you, if you feel that way, why should I waist my time fighting for you over laws that don't pertain to me. Instead these officers support the rights of gun owners, support Calguns and other pro- gun groups and get bashed for their efforts. I am just glad that the cops on Calguns have shown integrity and honor by not letting these ignorant comments change the way they feel about gun owners.

[Fire in the Hole]

What I don't understand is why these people come here to bash cops that are supporting many of the same causes that they believe in. As Police Officers, they are exempt from many of the foolish gun laws that most people complain about. They could just say sc**w you, if you feel that way, why should I waist my time fighting for you over laws that don't pertain to me. Instead these officers support the rights of gun owners, support Calguns and other pro- gun groups and get bashed for their efforts. I am just glad that the cops on Calguns have shown integrity and honor by not letting these ignorant comments change the way they feel about gun owners.

You got it Bucko. Seems like many members here forget that the LEO's on this entire website are of like mind, and these are the LEO's that they should not be alienating. What is it they taught me in boot camp? Oh yeah, don't sh** in your own fox hole, and don't pee in your mess kit.

[elSquid]

As your cop friend does, so did I. I found that the most effective way to deal with beligerent people was to to what I was taught in the adademies I attended. "Kill them with Kindness." Although tempting, I never threw their attitude back at them. I just became sweet as honey, which wound them up even more, I was able to do this with a disar4ming smile and a clam voice. We were trained in "Verbal Judo." It served me well for 30+ years.

For some reason, this video came to mind.

BTW, it's not work safe, due to language. But it's funny as heck.

NSFW=NSFCGN, but it was funny ~rkt

-- Michael

[yzErnie]

I'm always humored by the I know more about the law than you cops do mentality. When ever I'm on patrol and I come across people who bash my troops I politely encourage them to join us for a ride-a-long and get a first hand look at what goes on during a shift. The looks I get and the replies that flow out of their mouths are truly humorous. I wish I would have written them all down because over the course of my career I could have had thousands by now.

Flap your gums, call me names, hurl insults at me, belittle me or even calling my mom a biatch and I will just laugh at you. Comedy at its finest!!

[goathead]

I'm always humored by the I know more about the law than you cops do mentality. When ever I'm on patrol and I come across people who bash my troops I politely encourage them to join us for a ride-a-long and get a first hand look at what goes on during a shift. The looks I get and the replies that flow out of their mouths are truly humorous. I wish I would have written them all down because over the course of my career I could have had thousands by now.

Flap your gums, call me names, hurl insults at me, belittle me or even calling my mom a biatch and I will just laugh at you. Comedy at its finest!!

you missed it the mods came in and deleted most of the bad ones already
i could not believe how bad it got

[nobody33]

Before I was a cop I thought that all law abiding citizens should be able to CCW, and there shouldn't be unreasonable restrictions like a AW ban (and all the crap the state makes non LEO's go through).

After becoming a cop I felt the same way.

But to be honest after a year or so ago starting to participate in ARF and calguns, my opinion is starting to change. Mostly because the UOC people and the government consipricy people. I love America. I feel this is the best system we have. Yeah there's some stuff that's messed up and should be changed, but no one has it better. I think there are a few people on the fringe here and extremists who hate America just as any psycho liberal does. Those people scare me. Those people hoarding thousands of rounds of 223 and tons of illegal AW's scare me even more.

I still think people should get CCW, but everyday here some people try and show me that the general public isn't ready. Thankfully, I realize that they are the extremists, and not the common people. But they have no idea how much they hurt the 2A cause. They do more damage than any of the gun haters will ever do.

And don't forge the internet tough guy factor. Half the people whining about LEO's would be the first to call 911 (us) at the sign of trouble.

[BigDogatPlay]

Instead these officers support the rights of gun owners, support Calguns and other pro- gun groups and get bashed for their efforts. I am just glad that the cops on Calguns have shown integrity and honor by not letting these ignorant comments change the way they feel about gun owners.

+1 and well said.

This particular forum should not be shut down. I've been bashed (verbally and physically) a lot worse than I've ever seen in these pages.

There always seems to be an undercurrent of fundemental distrust between the taxpaying public and LEOs. That is particularly true when firearms ownership is on the table. I've seen it in action in other forums. In California it's worse because LEOs get to purchase things no one else can. That situation, by the way, blows... it did when I was a LEO and still does now.

If a poster who has taken what looks and feels like an undeserved rogering from a LEO wants to vent about it, why should I object? I wasn't the one who did the rogering.

[ST5MF]

[QUOTE=Fire in the Hole;2593523]

Here is a question for you.

Why, when a CHP officer gave me a ticket for supposedly doing 67mph in a 65mph zone on IH8 feel the need to throw (yes throw) the ticket at me as he was smirking and laughing...?

As I was trying to address this "officer of the law" he simply walked away from me got back in his cruiser and drove off(?).

The CHP officer was about as fat as I have seen a "public servant" in a long time. He must have taken a few minutes out of his eating schedule to start handing out tickets without any provocation what so ever.

I understand the state is broke but it is hard to respect a department that hires jokers like this. As of right now CHP has lost my trust...[/QUOTE]

I empathize with your dilema. If I were you I would do one of two things to teach them a lesson they won't soon forget.
1. Absolutely refuse to drive you car on any public highway in CA. Turn in you license, to cut of this source of excessive revenue. Sell you car to cut off the outrageous registration fees that are no doubt being squandered. Cancel your vehicle insurance, and save the money.

2. Then I'd move to a state where I had the utmost respect for the LEO's there, where their training is supurb, and don't hand out tickets without provocation. BTW, what state would that be? Because I'm considering a move myself.

Registered and licensed in TX. Probably why I got F*** With in the first place...

Would love to move; but I work for "uncle sugar" and there aren't a lot of choices of were to homestead.

TX would be a good start!

[ST5MF]

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The question still stands? What possesses a fellow badge wearing LEO from conducting himself like this? The fact he knows he can do it and get away with it? The fact he knows that people who work for a living don't have the time to deal with this over a $168 ticket? Or is just plain old evilness of man?

I am sure all LEO's have to deal with other LEO's who are low down dirt bags. Just because someone wears a badge that doesn't make them a "Saint."

I remember running into a few LEO's who I went to school with getting lit in their patrol vehicle while they were in uniform and on duty! They thought it was funny (had the attitude that they were above the law- kind of sickening really) My point being that we don't live in a fair world of right and just. There are good cops and there are plenty of bad cops. Perception is reality. There are many dirty cops who do unethical and yes illegal things; they take advantage of their authority and sometimes they get caught. The fact that there are very many a bad cop is probably where the so called "bashing" comes in. Because one wears a badge doesn't free them from criticism by the very people they are suppose to serve. You put a badge on you better be ready to live up to a higher standard and not be a hypocrite as many LEO's have proven to be in my experience with them.

BTW I do have many FRIENDS who are Municipal and Federal LEO's, many men in my military community go on to become LEO's and I work with retired LEO's who are now contractors on a regular basis.

Finally- The fact that the CHP officer I encountered on IH8 was a big fat person was merely an observation. There are lots of really over weight, really fat cops; to point that out offends you?

[neomentat]

can't rule out the possibility of uneducated convicted criminals mouthing off while hiding behind various screen names

[Fire in the Hole]

[QUOTE=ST5MF;2594755]

Registered and licensed in TX. Probably why I got F*** With in the first place...

Would love to move; but I work for "uncle sugar" and there aren't a lot of choices of were to homestead.

TX would be a good start!

Then TX Would be good for you. As soon as I finish two more semensters I'm puting my house on the market and headed for ID.

But back to my point. Why on Earth, assuming that you know the rules of this specific LEO Forum, would you come here and ask such ridiculous questions that any of us could ever answer? Getting carried away, just wanting to vent, or getting caught up in the moment doesn't cut it as an excuse. I suspect it is because you have some unresolved issues, and hiding behind a cloak of annomitity to hurl insults at LEO's makes you feel better.

As far as the Officer walking back to his cruiser and driving off while you thought you were still questioning him. The answer is simple. The side of the highway is not the place to hold traffic court. I don't know what you said or what the "fat" Officer said. But I do know that LEO's are trained to just let the citizen have the last word, smile, do an about-face, and retreat. Speaking for myself, I did this all the time when I had lost patience with an irate citizen. There was this little red light that went off in one eye that wanted me to gouge his eyes out and skull f him to death. Then the little red light in my other eye came on, and reminded me that I might be being taped, filmed, recorded, etc. I just shut up, departed, found a shade tree and smoked a cigarette, then went on to the next customer. Because there's two things we get complained on: The Officers just drive around wasting gas, or sit in a coffee shop, meanwhile people are breaking the law right in front of them, talking on cell phones, or not wearing their seat belts, and they don't do anything about it. Or, the police are out there too much, pulling people over without any provocation at all, and writing useless tickets just to fill their quotas, and bring in revenue for the government to waste.

[Fire in the Hole]

The question still stands? What possesses a fellow badge wearing LEO from conducting himself like this? The fact he knows he can do it and get away with it? The fact he knows that people who work for a living don't have the time to deal with this over a $168 ticket? Or is just plain old evilness of man?

I am sure all LEO's have to deal with other LEO's who are low down dirt bags. Just because someone wears a badge that doesn't make them a "Saint."

I remember running into a few LEO's who I went to school with getting lit in their patrol vehicle while they were in uniform and on duty! They thought it was funny (had the attitude that they were above the law- kind of sickening really) My point being that we don't live in a fair world of right and just. There are good cops and there are plenty of bad cops. Perception is reality. There are many dirty cops who do unethical and yes illegal things; they take advantage of their authority and sometimes they get caught. The fact that there are very many a bad cop is probably where the so called "bashing" comes in. Because one wears a badge doesn't free them from criticism by the very people they are suppose to serve. You put a badge on you better be ready to live up to a higher standard and not be a hypocrite as many LEO's have proven to be in my experience with them.

BTW I do have many FRIENDS who are Municipal and Federal LEO's, many men in my military community go on to become LEO's and I work with retired LEO's who are now contractors on a regular basis.

Finally- The fact that the CHP officer I encountered on IH8 was a big fat person was merely an observation. There are lots of really over weight, really fat cops; to point that out offends you?

This forum is not the place for you to vent your frustrations or criticisms of LEO's. Those are the rules. Plain and simple. Find another outlet for them. Meanwhile I know when I'm practicing out of my scope. So my advice it to seek professional help. Good luck with that BTW.