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  • #46
    P5Ret
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2010
    • 6381

    Originally posted by 003
    Join PORAC as a retired (RAM) member. They have excellent ccw coverage. $78.00 a year for RAM membership and excellent CCW coverage.



    "Membership open to any retired peace officer throughout the US"

    So, for $78.00 a year a retired cop can join PORAC as a retired member and get excellent CCW insurance coverage.
    That is the best bargain I have seen in a while. Plus it gives me access to the vision and dental I lost when I retired.

    ETA: They are quick on processing the application also. Got my confirmation e-mail today 2/22, the application went out last Thursday, covered now.
    Last edited by P5Ret; 02-22-2016, 5:50 PM. Reason: added info.

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    • #47
      Ron-Solo
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2009
      • 8581

      Attention LASD retirees, beginning March 1 you have to pay for ammo when you do you hr218 quals at BC. If you are qualifying at the Laughlin Roundup, you have to bring your own ammo.
      LASD Retired
      1978-2011

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      • #48
        micro911
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 2346

        Originally posted by Ron-Solo
        Attention LASD retirees, beginning March 1 you have to pay for ammo when you do you hr218 quals at BC. If you are qualifying at the Laughlin Roundup, you have to bring your own ammo.
        Can I bring my own factory ammo to the BC to qualify? That is the ammo I previously got from the BC range.

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        • #49
          Ron-Solo
          In Memoriam
          • Jan 2009
          • 8581

          Originally posted by micro911
          Can I bring my own factory ammo to the BC to qualify? That is the ammo I previously got from the BC range.
          Probably. They will sell it to you at a ridiculously low price for 9, .45, or .38. It isn't worth the hassle. Plus, you're shooting in a mobile range, which requires the " WinClean" ammo. If you qualify at the Laughlin Roundup you have to bring your own. It's an outdoor range.

          I was just there today so I'm good for a year. Got my new credentials too. There were three retirees there today getting new ones simply because their old ones had Baca's name on them. The lady at the counter said a lot of retirees were doing that.
          LASD Retired
          1978-2011

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          • #50
            roostersgt
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 1921

            All the more reason to retire, but maintain level one reserve officer status. The laws are too confusing. Easier to just remain 830.1

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            • #51
              Ron-Solo
              In Memoriam
              • Jan 2009
              • 8581

              Originally posted by roostersgt
              All the more reason to retire, but maintain level one reserve officer status. The laws are too confusing. Easier to just remain 830.1
              Because I had an injury that precluded me from returning to full duty, that wasn't an option for me.
              LASD Retired
              1978-2011

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              • #52
                roostersgt
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 1921

                sorry to hear, but at least you made it as long as you did. Much longer than most of the folks I know, including myself. Nice percentage. Well done sir!

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                • #53
                  micro911
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2346

                  When I turned in my credentials, my ID was signed by John Scott. I had a new one issued when Scott was the sheriff, because I lost Baca ID. When I requested the badge encasement, they still had my old ID signed by Sherman Block. So, I requested encasing the uniform badge, flat badge, and both IDs. I didn't realize they were expensive!!!!!

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                  • #54
                    roostersgt
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1921

                    Our badges are Sterling silver and 5 years ago they cost $280 with a 6 month wait from Ed Jones. Had 4 different badges issued to me over my career, but am still wearing the latest. All with the same agency, plus a PD stint. The shadow box, which still isn't completed, already sits at about $1000. All of the embroidery, unit pins and various patches add up quickly.

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                    • #55
                      Ron-Solo
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 8581

                      Yeah, my encasement had my deputy, sergeant, and lieutenant badge with my final ID card. When we turned in our Pitchess ID cards, they said they would hold them until retirement, but I don't know if anyone that was able to get theirs. Personnel moved so many times during those years that they got archived somewhere along with the Indiana Jones treasures.

                      I'm just glad mine isn't signed by a felon like Baca.
                      LASD Retired
                      1978-2011

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                      • #56
                        roostersgt
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1921

                        You can say that again. I'm on my fourth Sheriff in my career. IIRC, didn't your agency have only a couple of long term Sheriff's for your time period? Block, then Baca?

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                        • #57
                          Ron-Solo
                          In Memoriam
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 8581

                          Biscailuz, Pitchess, and Block were all long serving Sheriffs. The only reason Baca beat Block was that he died a month before the election and Baca barely beat a dead guy. Had the deceased candidate won, the Board of Stupidvisors would have been able to appoint a Sheriff to fill the 4 year term. That could have been bad too.

                          Eugene Biscailuz was Sheriff from 1932-1958, Peter J. Pitchess from 1958-1982, Sherman Block 1982-1998. They were all respected and led the Department with dignity and honor.

                          Block started his career as a deputy and worked his way to the top spot, serving as UnderSheriff for Pitchess. Pitchess was an FBI man brought in by Biscailuz to modernize the Department. Biscailuz was the first Commissioner of the CHP before becoming Sheriff.

                          Then there's Baca. He retired as a Division Chief before running for Sheriff. He ruined a great Department in my opinion.

                          We will have to wait and see if McDonnell can fix it. I hope so.
                          Last edited by Ron-Solo; 04-20-2016, 12:08 AM.
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                          1978-2011

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                          • #58
                            micro911
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 2346

                            Originally posted by roostersgt
                            Our badges are Sterling silver and 5 years ago they cost $280 with a 6 month wait from Ed Jones. Had 4 different badges issued to me over my career, but am still wearing the latest. All with the same agency, plus a PD stint. The shadow box, which still isn't completed, already sits at about $1000. All of the embroidery, unit pins and various patches add up quickly.
                            I bought a sterling 150 year commemorative badge for mt agency in 2000. We wore it for 2 years I believe. We were then to have it encased in acrylic. I paid $195 for it. It looks nice.


                            Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                            Yeah, my encasement had my deputy, sergeant, and lieutenant badge with my final ID card. When we turned in our Pitchess ID cards, they said they would hold them until retirement, but I don't know if anyone that was able to get theirs. Personnel moved so many times during those years that they got archived somewhere along with the Indiana Jones treasures.

                            I'm just glad mine isn't signed by a felon like Baca.
                            When I requested my Sherman Block ID, luckily they still had it. The lady said the Sherman Block IDs were being shredded and I was lucky they did not destroy mine.

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                            • #59
                              1CavScout
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 3234

                              I also have a 150th year badge that I wore for a year, and I have it in a wood case. When I retired they gave me my regular badge in an envelope with a retired rocker on it. It is till in a drawer in the same envelope along with the retired flat badge and wallet they gave me. Never found a reason to carry a retired flat badge.
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                              • #60
                                Jared1981
                                Member
                                • May 2009
                                • 278

                                There is much confusion about the types of firearms that are covered under LEOSA. I can't find "semi-auto" or "revolver" in Chapter 44 of Title 18 USC.

                                I did find "handgun" in 18 USC 921.

                                In fact, all types of firearms are defined in 18 USC 921 and those are the definitions that LEOSA uses.

                                There is also a subsection for rifles, shotguns, SBR's, SBS's, and semiautomatic rifle.

                                Those are the 6 types of firearms that are directly protected by LEOSA.

                                I do know that the San Diego sheriff is using the General CCW course as a qual course for 926C LEOSA qualifications. That's not legal and the certificates aren't valid. It has to be the standards the department uses for on duty officers.

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