(GENERAL How Does Registration Work thread)

[Hoop]

^^^^^
They're got better things to do with their time than hassle law-abiding citizens and too easy to foul up and possibly get sued

Oh believe me cops have more than enough time on their hands to enforce these laws should you run afoul of them. Like if you get pulled over on the way home from the range or something.

[shoutitoutshutitup]

Oh believe me cops have more than enough time on their hands to enforce these laws should you run afoul of them. Like if you get pulled over on the way home from the range or something.

How many times have you been pulled over for what amounted to a loaded weapon check with your RAW from 2000, or any other check for loaded weapons?

[Discogodfather]

Have you ever been confronted by LE in person about your RAW in the past 17 years?

If so, have you ever shown them the paperwork either at their request, or you had volunteered it?

No, but I have paperwork with me at all times and also a copy inside the rifle. Never had to show it. Had plenty of gawkers and people at ranges getting all weird about not having a BB, but no LEO interest.

[Discogodfather]

Watched the whole thing. It was a total cluster f--k back then and will be even worse after this one. They will have to cover Category 1,2,3, BBAW, and then have to describe featureless and a whole bunch of flavors of "fixed" magazine firearms. They will also be expected to be able to determine the difference between a brake and a flash hider.

When they run the serial numbers to verify it is a RAW, they will also need to have the date that it was registered to determine if it is an "illegal" magazine release that would have had to be registered before 1/1/2000.

I see two one of two things happening:
1) LEOs will just take the firearms and you get them back in a year OR
2) LEOs get tired of this **** and just stop trying to enforce this on otherwise law abiding citizens.

Well, that video was a different time though. The key to understanding LEO E-Checks and them inspecting RAW is that they are going to go for the AFS check. Almost every LEO, from what I understand, has that system access from their vehicles. They can check quickly.

The paperwork is just a validation of the same information that the AFS check would show. It's up to LEO to either accept the validity of it or not. No idea what their policy is on that, but a reasonable LEO would probably just take it.

So for me the bad situation is where the LEO AFS is not available. Maybe it's down or they are out of range (think BLM land). Maybe they are not familiar or trained on running an AFS check. Who knows, there could be lots of reasons they can't check.

We also have to assume this is a problem for ALL rifles though, at least anything semi-automatic. If a cop is dumb or can't use the AFS, a featureless rifle could just as easily be inspected and then removed to the station for further inspection.

US LEO is a mishmash of different policies, procedures, and capabilities/knowledge. There is no universal standard (or very few) and the reaction you get in one town is totally different from the situation you get into in another. It's all a roll of the dice.

Never really gotten into an E-Check situation other than 2 times in 25 years of ownership, but one thing I have kind of imagined I would do is to actually request an AFS check on the spot if it looked like LEO was going to take the weapon back to the station. That could be a year without a rifle or 2 weeks, no one knows. By requesting the AFS maybe it reminds officers to do it that way, and that if they refuse to do it and you get them to admit they aren't going to do it even though they have the capability to on the spot, then that information could be used against them legally in the future.

[Mayor McRifle]

Oh believe me cops have more than enough time on their hands to enforce these laws should you run afoul of them. Like if you get pulled over on the way home from the range or something.

If that's true, then you better remember to take the mag magnet off your rifle when you drive home from the range. Otherwise, I've never met anyone, LE or otherwise, who cared.

[Discogodfather]

Oh believe me cops have more than enough time on their hands to enforce these laws should you run afoul of them. Like if you get pulled over on the way home from the range or something.

The big thing to realize is that it's all based on location. For me, I have to drive through the most militant anti-gun places in the USA to get to a range to shoot my guns, weekly. It's paranoid to say the least, and I have to make sure everything is right to exercise 2A.

If I was in Chico or Stockton, not so much. If I was in Lassen, maybe nothing at all because I know the local sheriff won't even prosecute for anything.

We all live in different situations. Rules are different everywhere (despite what the law says), but what we all have in common is that those that control the law and it's enforcement agree with the people that live where I live, which is to say the heart of anti-gun lunacy.

[mutejosh]

The big thing to realize is that it's all based on location. For me, I have to drive through the most militant anti-gun places in the USA to get to a range to shoot my guns, weekly. It's paranoid to say the least, and I have to make sure everything is right to exercise 2A.

If I was in Chico or Stockton, not so much. If I was in Lassen, maybe nothing at all because I know the local sheriff won't even prosecute for anything.

We all live in different situations. Rules are different everywhere (despite what the law says), but what we all have in common is that those that control the law and it's enforcement agree with the people that live where I live, which is to say the heart of anti-gun lunacy.

Great point.

[Jonas Jonas]

Hello, its been a month. Did you hear anything from DOJ? or any update?

[Crazed_SS]

Absolutely no update on the 7 I submitted about a month ago.

[Jonas Jonas]

ack, ok

[caliguy93]

No update on the 20 I submitted a month ago...

I did submit my last 9 including the home built that have been volregd and the other home built a that have been engraved per ATF spec but not volregd

[Discogodfather]

No update on the 20 I submitted a month ago...

I did submit my last 9 including the home built that have been volregd and the other home built a that have been engraved per ATF spec but not volregd

At this rate there will be a run on registration soon because it's going to take 3 months to process. This is really absurd, why did they open if they don't even have a system up yet to process and approve? Probably so they could claim they opened the reg period with enough time, lol.

[whatmeworry]

Joint registration questions.

1: How many family members can be named as joint registrants per firearm?

2: I know the main registrant needs to be over 18 yrs old. Can a joint registrant be under 18?

[CandG]

Joint registration questions.

1: How many family members can be named as joint registrants per firearm?

2: I know the main registrant needs to be over 18 yrs old. Can a joint registrant be under 18?

1: As many as you have, that live at your house.

2: Joint registrants can only be under 18 if they turn 18 before 7/1/2018.

See also, AW Registration: The Complete Guide

[whatmeworry]

Thanks