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  • #76
    MKT
    Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 118

    Originally posted by Discogodfather
    Wow, ok, that's a big bit of info. So there is an opening here in terms of what they might accept. I never vol reg'd anything so there are three possiblities:

    1) The accept vol reg'd serials
    2) They accept owner made up serials (as long as they meet the requirements they have for engraving)
    3) They accept nothing and mandate we either overmark the old stuff or leave the old markings and just engrave new info elsewhere

    Please let us know if they call back, it's a huge issue.
    Agreed, this is another issue for me as well.

    I built an LR308 from an 80% and I had the requisite engravings, to ATF regulations, cut into the lower with the intention of registering. When they came out with their "must be a state issued serial number" I decided it would be featureless when the time comes because I'm not paying to have another set of numbers gouged into the receiver.

    There is nothing "ghost" about this gun, its long, weighs 14.5 pounds unloaded and has my name and a serial number engraved along with the other pertinent info.

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    • #77
      Spyder
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2008
      • 16772

      Originally posted by caliguy93

      Il PayPal $100 to the next person who takes a clear photograph of them holding a noncompliance non-bullet button at 15 with 30 round mag with their CA drivers license.
      Photo sent. I'll take my hundred doll hairs please.

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      • #78
        Discogodfather
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2010
        • 5516

        Originally posted by BluNorthern
        "Share the information you give with...or other person designated by the Attorney General upon request"

        In California's political climate...this scares the hell out of me. Delete if you want, but this is a huge red flag.
        So you're worried about giving info to the government, but you are not worried about the information they already have (especially post 2014)? You are also not worried about posting these fears on a public forum?

        They already know. Everyone knows everything in the information age.
        Originally posted by doggie
        Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
        Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
        Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
        "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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        • #79
          GM4spd
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2008
          • 5682

          Thanks OP for putting up something useful on this site.

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          • #80
            Spyder
            CGN Contributor
            • Mar 2008
            • 16772

            Originally posted by GM4spd
            Thanks OP for putting up something useful on this site.
            Once in a while it happens!

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            • #81
              caliguy93
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 1512

              Op asks for no discussion regarding the pros and cons of registering... OP puts it as the first line, and in bold...

              A mod then comes in and threatens permabanning anyone who trolls or discusses pros and cons of registering in this thread.

              People continue anyways...

              Mods, feel free to lock this one up. If anyone is genuinely interested in the process or have any additional questions for how I went through it, feel free to PM me.

              It just amazes me how many people are against complying now but we're nowhere to be found when the first assault weapons ban took place.. or the NFA, or ten day wait, or handgun roster.

              Money talks and Bull sh*t walks. No one here is ballsy enough to challenge the old laws that infringe but feel so strongly to challenge the new ones. By the way people talk, they are ready to fight and die for their right to own them.

              Here's a scenario... you are right, they now want to confiscate firearms, have a list and are using every database they can to help identify every gun owner and ever firearm for confiscation. The tap into every dros ever submitted, the aw registry, every ccw application ever submitted, every firearm safety card or handgun safety card ever issued, and every hunting license ever issued.

              They show up at your house in full swat gear and tell you they are here for your guns... you can either tell them to eff off and find it themselves, hand them all your guns, or point a gun back and tell them "come and take it"

              Are your guns really worth being killed for? Not to me. I will live to fight another day. But honestly if anyone is willing to fight and risk being shot at for the ability and right to keep and bear arms.. they should really start by moving first, as the cost of moving is way less than the cost of giving up your life for your rights.

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              • #82
                Mesa Defense
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 2172

                Tracking

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                • #83
                  sitruc
                  Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 465

                  This is interesting... none of the photos required require the serial number to be in the photo?

                  Interesting indeed.

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                  • #84
                    Run300Blackout
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 32

                    For my 80% ar pistol build, all i need to do is engrave my lower to meet the law and i can use this same registration process for my completed 80% ar pistol build right? And I can also leave the handguard on?

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                    • #85
                      Discogodfather
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 5516

                      Originally posted by Run300Blackout
                      For my 80% ar pistol build, all i need to do is engrave my lower to meet the law and i can use this same registration process for my completed 80% ar pistol build right? And I can also leave the handguard on?
                      If you completed it during a legal period, then yes. I think they made some of that illegal before 2016, with the SSE thing? Better to ask on the pistol forum about that.

                      But theoretically you have to submit to a process where you ask the DOJ for a serial, when you get it you then have to engrave it on the gun along with other things they specify in the regs. Then they will allow registration.

                      But hold your horses, because the word is still not out about whther they will allow owner serials or vol reg serials to be used in place of a DOJ serial. We are all waiting for word on that one, some have called and the DOJ reps have said they do not know yet.
                      Originally posted by doggie
                      Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
                      Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
                      Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
                      "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                      • #86
                        stormvet
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 10560

                        Thanks for sharing your experience in this matter, very helpful info.

                        The one thing I could never understand is why people think(not directing this to you OP) you can remove the BB after registering. The fact that DOJ wants a pic of the BB leads me to believe it's a feature of the gun they expect to remain there.
                        Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                        • #87
                          Discogodfather
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 5516

                          Originally posted by stormvet
                          Thanks for sharing your experience in this matter, very helpful info.

                          The one thing I could never understand is why people think(not directing this to you OP) you can remove the BB after registering. The fact that DOJ wants a pic of the BB leads me to believe it's a feature of the gun they expect to remain there.
                          Because it's not in the law and is at best an underground regulation and worst an underground law. I agree it's foolhardy to think it can fly off with no consequences after but take the long game into account and it could be brought down by litigation when our friends start taking apart their insane reasoning for why it needs to be kept on.

                          Warning: don't read that letter with a mouthful of 100 year old brandy or it's going to be wasted as you spray it across the room trying to comprehend that level of mind numbing dribble.
                          Originally posted by doggie
                          Someone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.
                          Originally posted by PMACA_MFG
                          Not checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
                          "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                          • #88
                            Lazyme
                            Member
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 669

                            I saw someone posted that they were not going to joint register a firearm because they didnt live with that person. Do you have to live in the same household to joint register?

                            Edit - found it...
                            5474.1. Registration of Assault Weapons Pursuant to Penal Code Section 30900(b)(1); Joint Registration of Assault Weapons
                            (a) If a firearm will be jointly registered, one family member must be identified as the primary registrant.and the The name and relationship of each joint registrant must be provided. Joint registrants must reside in the same household and share the same address.
                            Last edited by Lazyme; 08-05-2017, 6:28 AM. Reason: Found code
                            Weeeeeeeee

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                            • #89
                              ivanimal
                              Janitors assistant
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 14348

                              Once again if you dont want a temp ban dont post off topic drivel.
                              "I would kill for a Nobel peace prize." Steven Wright"
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                              • #90
                                Spyder
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 16772

                                Heck, I think I'm gonna take some time in the next week or two and do a couple just to see how the process is.

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