AB 1663- Chiu, 2016 - Dead in Committee

[cncer]

What's funny is you don't even need to look too far to dig up dirt on these dirtbags. It's just in their nature.

http://valleywag.gawker.com/airbnb-accused-of-illegally-lobbying-for-favorable-legi-1648948233

[UberPatriot]

That is some inanity.

Think so?
Then why do democrats have total control of California?

[otalps]

Think so?
Then why do democrats have total control of California?

Because there are too many idiots and leftists in this state. There is nothing in the modern dem platform anywhere near centrists.

[cncer]

Bombard his Facebook with messages expressing your disdain.

Set up proxy accounts and fire away.

https://m.facebook.com/davidchiu.sf/?tsid=0.30445456388406456&source=typeahead&feed_ufi=comments

[russ69]

...So ,,,According to your thinking ...We should All just lay down and ' Take It "

You are suffering the Stockholm syndrome. You have been repeatably raped, over and over again. California is taking your guns away at an alarming rate. It's not time to complain to your captors, it's time to try to crawl out under the fence while you still have your life.

[IVC]

This is what happens when the Conservative party swings too far to the right, it leaves those the middle no choice but to side with the Democrats.

There is always a choice. Siding with a party is always a conscious and willful act.

Unless Republicans return to the center they will never have the numbers they need to change this.
Sorry if this hurts anyone's feelings but it's true.

Your definition of "center" is way off as seen by the recent *historical* Republican successes nationwide. The center in CA has moved, alright, but only because CA has moved to the left.

Also, I don't see why "Republicans should change this." How about we hold Democrats accountable for what they are doing and their supporters accountable for electing them?

Republicans and gun owners are the victims here. Blaming the victim is supposedly a "right wing thingy."

[IVC]

Then why do democrats have total control of California?

Corruption and control of the message. Same as third world countries that end up in a single-party system. Once established, it's not easy to get rid of it.

As a simple example look at the gun debate. Do you think you have a snowballs chance in hell of getting a fair shake in the MSM? It's not that Democrats want to debate the issue or find a solution. They simply want to silence us.

Imagine what "center" would be if we could go regularly on TV and point out the nonsense of gun control. If we could rebut immediately and in force any anti-gun talking point. Or, if they were as much on our side as they are on the antis' side and they silenced any anti-gun talk altogether.

[Warhawk014]

This is gonna get interesting. Looks pretty bad from what I've read. I hope it gets shot down. Pun intended.

[The Gleam]

I hope there is a registration and removal of BB's! How many lowers does the average Calgunner own (or will own if this moves forward)? I figure we would all average maybe 1 in 5 of our lowers registered... One on the Man's list with no BB, and 4 more in the safe for after confiscation takes place.

F them. We will never give in. Stupid communist democrats.

P.S.: Keep voting for democrats you liberals. You reap what you sow.

Not likely. When they finish manuscripting this piece of crap, they will likely put in for an all out ban. Featureless or a Monster-Man grip, may be the only option.

As for the registration quip, in times past I would have ripped you hard for that comment; but now that CA has its pseudo registration by way of the DROS including serial numbers of long-guns, it's tough to be angry about your point, but you still deserve a bit of chastisement.

While the DROS is pseudo registration, when you are pulled over or they come to your house, LEO are not automatically provided a detailed shopping list of every registered gun you own in the way full-on registration allows and provides (even without inquiry). Officers may go to you home for a completely innocuous reason (car blocking your driveway) and will be advised by address. They run your license plate because YOU'RE the car blocking a driveway, list is advised.

Second, the cost of registration per gun could get ridiculous if it's a situation like $25 for the first gun, and $15 each additional gun; for 150 guns that meet the definition for registration.

So no, I won't call for registration as a blessing, but for how this state has realigned the DROS for long-guns, it was exactly the stepping stone they designed in order to warm people up for full assault registration....

... just as that will be a precursor to confiscation.

You can see that factor in their push to ban possession of magazines more than 10-rounds; they banned sales/acquisition, but possession was "allowed" - yet they don't have any way of knowing what you own. As cities like LA, San Francisco, and now Oakland call to ban high-capacity magazines, the state will try to follow, and combine discovery with confiscation. If only they had a list, they surely would go door to door to do exactly that task.

[The Gleam]

On other thing I'd like to add:

We need to start MUCH earlier on fighting this one, being aggressive early and not ignoring it merely because we know it will be streamlined through certain committees passing it anyway (like the Public Safety Committee). We've got to get awareness of this communicated early. We can't wait to get the PR out on this or a late start, not in this current atmosphere. This one and AB1664 Levine need lots of exposure and revelation provided to the passive or apathetic gun owners that don't log into Calguns but maybe once every other month.

If you recall, Steinberg's SB-374 went as far as to Brown's desk. While he vetoed it with a terse opinion statement, I'm not so sure in this current climate of crazy Anti-2nd Amendment fascism and ruse double-speak, from the White House on down to the likes of Newsom and Harris, that he wouldn't sign such a bill this time.

This time, time may be the only resource we can utilize that makes a difference. We can't solely rely on Brown as the only firewall, as I'm not so sure of his leanings after the San Bernardino incident. While he expressed he is satisfied with CA Anti-2nd Amendment laws as they are, he's quite an iffy character. While someone like Yee pitching a bill surely would not grab his attention, he MAY give more credence to someone like Harris who does not come off as corrupt or disgustingly insipid as Yee.

[Walky Talky]

so how much more is my AK worth now between now and the time this passes?

Bids are starting at $5k

[Walky Talky]

Chiaou is probably a gun runner, or at least affiliated with gun-runners. Anyone want to pitch in on a legal private investigator?

[BluNorthern]

May as well switch em back to original configuration.

[djmere]

on the flip side.
if this passes, we get grandfathered.
then have to register our semis as AW.
an AW is an AW.
i'm puttin the regular mag release, 100 rd drum & a giggle switch on every lower i own.

[dozer wright]

They make a law gun owners jump through the hoop and the politicians make the hoop smaller. They write the law "with a ha this will take care of the problem " attitude then the smart gun owners find a away to work with in the law the politicians say the law is not solid enough.