AB 1663- Chiu, 2016 - Dead in Committee

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Then like i said i don't understand why there is even any argument about this topic they are breaking their sworn oath to protect the individuals constitutional rights!!
Why has no one gotten a lawyer to not only toss these criminals out of office but also throw them in jail??

When CA courts start declaring these impingements/encroachments/infringements as what they truly are, illegitimate laws, we will start getting somewhere.

[matix101]

When CA courts start declaring these impingements/encroachments/infringements as what they truly are, illegitimate laws, we will start getting somewhere.

But then they would be convicting thesmselves for the same offenses and we all know that'll never happen.
I wonder if they talk among themselves about the giant hole they've dug!

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[chris]

If Gavin Newsom get elected, then Brown will look like a gun nut in comparison.
Sorry, only hope we have in maintaining what rights we have is Newsom suffering a sudden myocardial infarction.

Keep your fingers crossed.

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you got that right. and we'll be saying those were the good o'l days. heck Newsom would make Gray Davis look pro gun compared to Newsom.

of course this all speculation on our part at this time. but the deck is stacked against us as for candidates for governor go. is there another Democrat that is going to run against Newsom?

we really cant count on the republicans putting up a viable candidate that could be Newsom should win nomination for governor if there someone is going to run against him.

[The Gleam]

This one of all threads should be infinitely at the top of this forum - hourly.

Crazy to think it's not.

[CandG]

This one of all threads should be infinitely at the top of this forum - hourly.

Crazy to think it's not.

Everybody's too busy buying stripped lowers and earning more money to buy more stripped lowers.

I refuse to resign myself to defeat on this issue, but at the same time I refuse to be unprepared if it should become a reality.

[The Gleam]

Everybody's too busy buying stripped lowers and earning more money to buy more stripped lowers.

I refuse to resign myself to defeat on this issue, but at the same time I refuse to be unprepared if it should become a reality.

That is particularly why I'm bumping all of the genuine "FIGHT THIS BILL" threads today, because many of these have been buried some 45 days old or more.

Sickening to see these get forgotten and find nothing but "how do I go about registering my guns under the new law" inquiry threads gumming up this forum. There should be a "Bend Over and Spread" forum on Calguns just for those types of threads.

After all, this is a " California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism" forum - not - California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Compliance fourm.

[CandG]

That is particularly why I'm bumping all of the genuine "FIGHT THIS BILL" threads today, because many of these have been buried some 45 days old or more.

Sickening to see these get forgotten and find nothing but "how do I go about registering my guns under the new law" inquiry threads gumming up this forum. There should be a "Bend Over and Spread" forum on Calguns just for those types of threads.

After all, this is a " California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism" forum - not - California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Compliance fourm.

Exactly. If this new law were to go into effect, I hope everyone realizes that "Show me your papers!" will be the new norm every time we exercise our rights to go out for a day at the shooting range.

[The Gleam]

Bump.

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[RRangel]

So its been said numerous times in these 2a threads, but isn't the fact that these slimeball legislators swear an oath to protect the constitution but are systematically dismantling it grounds for removing them from office?

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They obviously do what is termed lying. Where the only oath that is upheld is to themselves.

[tpc13]

If u register your rifle as an assault weapon. You are signs your rights away. Here's how. U fill out the registration register your rifle. Upon your death you cannot pass your favorite rifle to your next of kin or son. They know this and this forces California into giving up their guns. I say do not. Register anything. Look at Mexico guns are banned and crime is everwhere. Two classes rich the elite and the poor. The rich control you through stupid bills. Civil disobedience and fight these bills.

[CandG]

If u register your rifle as an assault weapon. You are signs your rights away. Here's how. U fill out the registration register your rifle. Upon your death you cannot pass your favorite rifle to your next of kin or son. They know this and this forces California into giving up their guns. I say do not. Register anything. Look at Mexico guns are banned and crime is everwhere. Two classes rich the elite and the poor. The rich control you through stupid bills. Civil disobedience and fight these bills.

When they started requiring cars to be registered, how successful do you think the small group of people was, who said "That's BS, I'm not registering my car!"

Your unregistered rifle would not be any more useful to you and your next of kin than your unregistered car would be on the highway - only difference with the car is you don't go to prison and lose your rights to buy or own another car ever again.

I agree with your sentiments, I just don't think that's the best way to act on them. If they require registration, I'll be (reluctantly) registering. I'll be angry, and I'll do everything I can to help reverse the legislation, but I'll still follow the law, the risks of doing otherwise aren't worth it to me.

[bobbodaggit]

When they started requiring cars to be registered, how successful do you think the small group of people was, who said "That's BS, I'm not registering my car!"

Your unregistered rifle would not be any more useful to you and your next of kin than your unregistered car would be on the highway - only difference with the car is you don't go to prison and lose your rights to buy or own another car ever again.

I agree with your sentiments, I just don't think that's the best way to act on them. If they require registration, I'll be (reluctantly) registering. I'll be angry, and I'll do everything I can to help reverse the legislation, but I'll still follow the law, the risks of doing otherwise aren't worth it to me.

But your analogy fails. There is no law that says your car is never transferrable to Anyone Ever in CA, which is what the AW laws say here. If there was, very few would be for registering.

[Erion929]

So, what does AB 1663 and 1664 mean, should it pass?

No further sales of rifles with detachable mags?
Illegal to possess those you already bought?
Illegal to sell those you already bought?
Illegal to use, even for sporting/range purposes?

[CandG]

So, what does AB 1663 and 1664 mean, should it pass?

No further sales of rifles with detachable mags?
Illegal to possess those you already bought?
Illegal to sell those you already bought?
Illegal to use, even for sporting/range purposes?

IIRC, the bills would allow current owners to register them as AW's, so you can still own it and use it if you were to register it as an AW. You would only be able to transfer it out of state, keep it for the rest of your life, or destroy it - the same restrictions that currently apply to RAW's.