Ammunition vendor not shipping ammunition to specific city in CA?

[Regula]

I see this on a lot of vendors webpages but cant seem to find any law to read about it...can someone help me here?
"CALIFORNIA CUSTOMERS: No sales of ammunition delivered to the counties of Marin, Napa, and San Francisco. No ammunition delivered to the Cities of: Berkley, Carson, Los Angeles, Oakland, Sacramento and San Francisco. No high capacity magazine exceeding 10rds sales to anyone or dealer in CA. Check for other Local & State laws before ordering."

[sakosf]

I see this on a lot of vendors webpages but cant seem to find any law to read about it...can someone help me here?
"CALIFORNIA CUSTOMERS: No sales of ammunition delivered to the counties of Marin, Napa, and San Francisco. No ammunition delivered to the Cities of: Berkley, Carson, Los Angeles, Oakland, Sacramento and San Francisco. No high capacity magazine exceeding 10rds sales to anyone or dealer in CA. Check for other Local & State laws before ordering."

Likely because in some cases there is not a specific law/ordnance prohibiting it. Some localities do have record keeping requirements for vendors selling ammunition though. Some sellers on Gunbroker will not ship ammo to anywhere in CA

[WARTFROG]

San Fran will sue

[HappyCamper781]

AB 48 prevents sales of mags and rebuild kits.

Local ordinances for cities / counties prevent ammo sales without fingerprint / ID check.

[Hoooper]

can someone actually cite the law for all of these? I have looked for anything from Marin many times and have yet to come up with even a hint of a clue. Ive found some of the other ones, but Marin eludes me

[stix213]

I know Marin county has an ammo sales ordinance that can be interpreted to not allow online sales (requires thumb print if I remember correctly, how do you get that online?). Can't speak to the others.

[Best sale]

There is a term like " california friendly Vendors" that will be your gateway to transaction & Politicking with the Free world, incase you forget you are a resident of a communist state, Comrade

[Hoooper]

I know Marin county has an ammo sales ordinance that can be interpreted to not allow online sales (requires thumb print if I remember correctly, how do you get that online?). Can't speak to the others.

have you ever actually seen the code though? I cannot find anything.

Edit: oooo I found something finally. Looks like if you have a business licence to sell ammo you have to record some items. However, no mention of a requirement to have a business license for selling ammo or anything similar, which would suggest to me that if you have a business license for anything other than selling ammo or just no business license you dont have to keep a record...

Every holder of a business license to sell ammunition shall maintain records pertaining to ammunition sales prescribed by this Chapter on the licensed premises and in the manner prescribed herein. The record shall show:

(A) The date of the transaction;

(B) The purchaser's name, address and date of birth;

(C) The purchaser's driver's license number or other identification and State where issued;

(D) The brand of ammunition purchased;

(E) The type and amount of ammunition purchased; and

(F) The purchaser's signature; and

(G) The purchaser’s thumbprint;

(H) Log of Ammunition Sales.

The information required by this subsection 6.58.075(H) shall be completed in the logbook at the time of the purchase. Such information shall be recorded in the following format:

AMMUNITION SALES REGISTRATION LOG

STORE:

Date


Name


Address


Date of Birth


License/ID & State


Ammunition Brand


Ammunition Type & Amount


Purchaser Signature



(1) The record shall be maintained in chronological order by date of sale of the ammunition, and shall be retained on the licensed premises of the business licensee for a period of two (2) years following the date of the purchase of the ammunition.

(2) At the direction of the Sheriff or his or her designee, deputy sheriffs may enter the premises of any licensed vendor of ammunition during regular business hours for the purpose of examining or inspecting any record required by this Chapter.

Exception.

The provisions of this section shall not apply to the sale of firearm ammunition by a firing range licensed to do business in the County when the ammunition so purchased is expended on the premises of the range and not removed for use outside the range premises.

[fizux]

SF Police Code section 613. Requires registration of ammo vendors (which requires a fire inspection of the premises, etc.). Legally, this can only apply to vendors located in SF, but the City Attorney has made it known that he will sue anyone for anything related to firearms, even if they are at a gun show in another county (Cow Palace = San Mateo County).

He wants to be mayor one day, and he doesn't care how many defenseless civilians get raped or murdered because of his totalitarian agenda.

[BumBum]

SF Police Code section 613. Requires registration of ammo vendors (which requires a fire inspection of the premises, etc.). Legally, this can only apply to vendors located in SF, but the City Attorney has made it known that he will sue anyone for anything related to firearms, even if they are at a gun show in another county (Cow Palace = San Mateo County).

He wants to be mayor one day, and he doesn't care how many defenseless civilians get raped or murdered because of his totalitarian agenda.

Small correction, the Cow Palace actually straddles the City/County line. It sits on both the County of San Mateo and the City and County of San Francisco.

[fizux]

Small correction, the Cow Palace actually straddles the City/County line. It sits on both the County of San Mateo and the City and County of San Francisco.

That is incorrect. The county line clips the corner of the old outdoor theater adjacent to the Cow Palace, but the entrance, parking lots, and the Cow Palace itself are all in San Mateo (APN: 005-050-270).

[BumBum]

That is incorrect. The county line clips the corner of the old outdoor theater adjacent to the Cow Palace, but the entrance, parking lots, and the Cow Palace itself are all in San Mateo (APN: 005-050-270).

You are right. I remember this was an issue with the now-vetoed SB 475. What I should have said was that the agricultural district on which the Cow Palace sits is their shared jurisdiction. From the text of the bill: "Existing law divides the state into agricultural districts, and establishes that District 1-A is the County of San Mateo and the City and County of San Francisco." http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201320140SB475

[fizux]

You are right. I remember this was an issue with the now-vetoed SB 475. What I should have said was that the agricultural district on which the Cow Palace sits is their shared jurisdiction. From the text of the bill: "Existing law divides the state into agricultural districts, and establishes that District 1-A is the County of San Mateo and the City and County of San Francisco." http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201320140SB475

I live 2 blocks away, and still had to look at the assessors' maps for SF and SM to be absolutely sure I was correct before replying. Your point is well taken.