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  • SkyHawk
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    • Sep 2012
    • 23471

    Originally posted by taperxz
    I thought judges and politicians were on separate lists?
    One list but judges usually have a special type of permit, which are denoted and sortable in the list. There are hundreds of them in the list
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    • Ocdlaw
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      • Dec 2012
      • 131

      Originally posted by Toybasher
      Wait, so the "I'm suing the state over the constitutionality of laws" judges are also the same judges who preside over criminal trials such as murder and robbery? I thought they're different kinds of judges.
      They are different in State Court but not in federal court.
      The "slippery slope" is not a fallacy; it is a strategy.

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      • RickD427
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        • Jan 2007
        • 9259

        Originally posted by Ocdlaw
        They are different in State Court but not in federal court.
        The federal court also has judges who preside over courts that try specialty type cases. Federal Tax Court and Federal Bankruptcy Court being two examples.
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        • ar15barrels
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          • Jan 2006
          • 56973

          Originally posted by taperxz
          I thought judges and politicians were on separate lists?
          They forgot to sort the privileged people out of the CCW list before the dropped it on a public website.
          The judges and police are all in there.
          I found my friend who is an LASD reserve officer.
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          • BAJ475
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            • Jul 2014
            • 5054

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            They forgot to sort the privileged people out of the CCW list before the dropped it on a public website.
            The judges and police are all in there.
            I found my friend who is an LASD reserve officer.
            Does the list include licenses or permits that had expired?

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            • ar15barrels
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              • Jan 2006
              • 56973

              Originally posted by BAJ475
              Does the list include licenses or permits that had expired?
              The list is the issuances, not the expirations.
              Anytime that you received a new license, an entry was made.
              This covers your initial license as well as each renewal licenses as long as those licenses were issued between 1/1/12 and 12/31/21

              So if your license was originally issued in 2010, it's not on the list until you renewed it.
              Then the RENEWAL will be listed each time you renewed within that 10yr period that the document covers.
              Last edited by ar15barrels; 08-02-2022, 4:37 PM.
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              • Sgt Raven
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                • Dec 2005
                • 3798

                Originally posted by Drivedabizness
                And that accomplished exactly what???

                SCOTUS said read my lips.....



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                • nick
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                  • Aug 2008
                  • 19143

                  Originally posted by TheNinja
                  This is so infuriating b/c courts can just disobey the law. I'm not allowed to ignore court rulings.

                  I had to be a pessimist but sadly "The Supreme Court has no power to enforce its decisions. It cannot call out the troops or compel Congress or the president to obey. The Court relies on the executive and legislative branches to carry out its rulings. In some cases, the Supreme Court has been unable to enforce its rulings."



                  State courts obviously can and do ignore supreme court rulings and I'm guessing it would take years before any repercussions actually take place. What's the point of the court rulings if other courts don't even have to follow them anyway?

                  And no, I don't want to get into the whole federal vs state's rights and all that. I'm sure that's what the CA courts are hiding behind.
                  The Supreme court, like other courts, can hold people in contempt, including persuasive contempt (that is, they're ordered to stay in jail until the contempt is lifted). Sadly, they aren't likely to do that.
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                  • The Tiger
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                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1989

                    Originally posted by Roswell Saucer
                    Looks like Benitez has a jury trial going on tomorrow in a drug case so I wouldn't expect any news for a while.
                    Judges will handle multiple cases in a single day. Even if they are in trial they usually have other things on their daily calendar and switch between the trail and other matters. It's normal
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                    • TheNinja
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                      • Nov 2011
                      • 275

                      Originally posted by nick
                      The Supreme court, like other courts, can hold people in contempt, including persuasive contempt (that is, they're ordered to stay in jail until the contempt is lifted). Sadly, they aren't likely to do that.
                      Ya...that's the sad part. Supreme court has no real teeth in the matter. They aren't going to hold another court in contempt IMO. They'd go back and forth arguing for years before they actually held the court or the judges in jail on contempt.

                      it's a rigged system and corrupt and they all know it.

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                      • kcstott
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                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11796

                        Originally posted by TheNinja
                        Ya...that's the sad part. Supreme court has no real teeth in the matter. They aren't going to hold another court in contempt IMO. They'd go back and forth arguing for years before they actually held the court or the judges in jail on contempt.

                        it's a rigged system and corrupt and they all know it.

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                        • rplaw
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                          • Dec 2014
                          • 1808

                          Originally posted by kcstott
                          They don’t have to go to jail to be held in contempt. The court can fine the judges any amount they feel is appropriate.
                          SCOTUS can do just about anything they want when it comes to disciplining the lower (inferior) courts. Anything from fines, to jail, to removal from the bench, etc., they can do. That they can do it isn't the question. The question is whether they have the balls to actually do it.

                          They don't.
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                          • taperxz
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                            • Feb 2010
                            • 19395

                            Originally posted by rplaw
                            SCOTUS can do just about anything they want when it comes to disciplining the lower (inferior) courts. Anything from fines, to jail, to removal from the bench, etc., they can do. That they can do it isn't the question. The question is whether they have the balls to actually do it.

                            They don't.
                            True but a good embarrassing with a temporary injunction while Miller is heard is the same as mommy spanking you in front of all your school friends

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                            • kcstott
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                              • Nov 2011
                              • 11796

                              Originally posted by rplaw
                              SCOTUS can do just about anything they want when it comes to disciplining the lower (inferior) courts. Anything from fines, to jail, to removal from the bench, etc., they can do. That they can do it isn't the question. The question is whether they have the balls to actually do it.

                              They don't.
                              I think Justice Thomas is tired of the ninths crap. I suspect by the length and detail in the NYSRPA case especially the parts going into the THT citing back to pre colonial American British rule. No one goes into that kind of detail calmly. Thomas was pissed and tired of the lower courts crap.

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                              • EM2
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                                • Jan 2008
                                • 4846

                                Originally posted by taperxz
                                True but a good embarrassing with a temporary injunction while Miller is heard is the same as mommy spanking you in front of all your school friends
                                Wait, you think the 9th circus can be embarrassed?
                                Come on man, really?
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                                It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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