Miller v. Bonta 9th Ckt "assault weapons": Held for Duncan result 1-26-24

[The Tiger]

Looked like the 21st will be the new 18th.
https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content...2021%2C%202021.

Shucks

[HibikiR]

http://www.cacd.uscourts.gov/news/ju...dence-day-2021

That doesn't say San Francisco, which is the specific court handling the case. Here's hoping at least.

[Supersapper]

"Gewehr" mean rifle. Weapon would be "Waffe".


Correct. The literal translation of "Sturmgewehr" would be "assault rifle". As I said above.

No, Mountainlion. "Sturm" does not literally translate as "assault" and "gewehr" is "gun". Gewehr could be a rifle, or a pistol. It's a general term. The context of our conversation would be rifle, so I'll buy off on that correction on context only.

"Waffe" does translate as "weapon", but only generally. Luftwaffe is literal German for "Air Weapon", not "air rifle". Colloquially, luftwaffe is German for air force. It is a general term...anything from the planes to the trucks to the runways, if it's involved with the German Air Force, it's part of the Luftwaffe.

And before anyone gets too wrapped around the axle on it, I was attacking the fact that he said it was a literal translation of the word. It is not. "SturmGewehr" was a moniker given by Hitler to one firearm which actually had another name. Assault Weapon was an English descriptor given to a basic class of firearm, but which really should be Assault Rifle for accuracy. Even if I don't like the term "assault"

[taperxz]

I'm very skeptical of this claim. Sidney Thomas et al have shown they're more than happy doing exactly what the DoJ wants them to do.

The States demand of June 18th has come and gone with no action.

[rplaw]

The States demand of June 18th has come and gone with no action.

Don't worry, I'm sure someone in the 9th knows how to backdate an entry into the docket.

[CandG]

Looks like the 21st will be the new 18th.
https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content...2021%2C%202021.

This isn't a filing deadline, though.

Today's "deadline" was an arbitrary date that DOJ is trying to bully the court into issuing a stay by.

[BeAuMaN]

Looks like the 21st will be the new 18th.
https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content...2021%2C%202021.

Mmmmm... Not debating June 18th is when Juneteenth is being observed for CA9, but from a strict reading I think technically this wouldn't apply to CA DoJ's requested deadline, but more the deadlines outlined in FRAP (imposed upon parties filing stuff with the CA9). I'll be happy though if the Motions Panel doesn't reply today.

[gobler]

Is there a time of day that no further work is done in the courts? It's now past 5pm. Haven't seen anything yet..

[BeAuMaN]

Nope! Judges are on call. See the Rhode v Becerra administrative stay.
When the day ends we'll know if they decided to do anything or not.

I mean, for a 3-judge stay pending appeal you'll probably see it between 9-5 or whatever. But a 2-judge administrative/temporary stay or something to prevent "irreparable harm" while they consider the merits of the stay request you could see at any hour of the day.

[splithoof]

Nope! Judges are on call. See the Rhode v Becerra administrative stay.
When the day ends we'll know if they decided to do anything or not.

I mean, for a 3-judge stay pending appeal you'll probably see it between 9-5 or whatever. But a 2-judge administrative/temporary stay or something to prevent "irreparable harm" while they consider the merits of the stay request you could see at any hour of the day.

You are correct that judges are on call. Some years back, during the states ramp-up for the first execution of a convicted murderer in decades (R.A. Harris?), an additional stay (late at night) was placed by a judge living in Woodland Hills, from his home. Made me sick to think that liberal sniveling puke lived where I grew up.

[dawgcasa]

Can't decide if this was just creative writing, or if AG lies to themselves so much they actually believe this is what's on the line. Either way, it must hurt to be so far left.

What’s interesting is the AG’s use of the word ‘theoretical’ when describing the use of AR-15s for self defense … when there are mountains of empirical data of AR-15s being used by millions of people, and among them numerous documented cases of AR-15s being used for home defense, or used in the defense of others (remember that church shooting a few years back where a guy got his AR out of his truck and shot the murderer?). That’s not ‘theoretical’. It’s empiricism. But we know the long string of CA’s AG’s aren’t interested in facts. They just keep promoting a narrative, hoping that liberal judges on the 9th will echo them, then ‘defer’ to the legislature.

[jcwatchdog]

[curtisfong]

I’m wondering if Bonta and Gavin flaming a sitting judge in a press conference pissed off the judges in the 9th. Even though they may differ in regards to some issues, I’m sure most judges don’t appreciate a fellow judge being lambasted in the media by a governor and AG.

I'm betting Benitez is a pariah that is hated by Sidney Thomas' old boys' network. I doubt they respect him. They, like Newsom, lack the intellectual honesty to seriously consider anything he writes.

Bonta has an excuse, at least. Crapping all over his subjects' rights is, after all, his job.

[taperxz]

I'm betting Benitez is a pariah that is hated by Sidney Thomas' old boys' network. I doubt they respect him. They, like Newsom, lack the intellectual honesty to seriously consider anything he writes.

Bonta has an excuse, at least. Crapping all over his subjects' rights is, after all, his job.

You’re too much of a conspiracy theorist. It’s probably the opposite and many are good friends. (With opposing views) It’s common knowledge that even the SCOTUS with their divisions actually like one another. RBG was friends with Scalia and Scalia even took Kagen hunting/shooting.

Too many, it’s just a job. They don’t always live for work. You’re perception of life might be a little out of touch. I know several judges that agree with me.

[Toybasher]

Nope! Judges are on call. See the Rhode v Becerra administrative stay.
When the day ends we'll know if they decided to do anything or not.

I mean, for a 3-judge stay pending appeal you'll probably see it between 9-5 or whatever. But a 2-judge administrative/temporary stay or something to prevent "irreparable harm" while they consider the merits of the stay request you could see at any hour of the day.

Well, the day ended. AFAIK nothing happened at least that I'm aware of.

Does this mean Freedom Week 2 is likely and we'll hit July 4th before any action such as a stay can be taken?