BODY ARMOR: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

[Big Chudungus]

Preliminary review of my new Hardwire brand Pull up proof clipboard. Edges are a rather sharp 90ﾟ and I think I'm going to try to stand down to break the edge a little bit hopefully that won't release a lot of nasty particles or create some other problem. I worked with level 2 bulletproofing in thing in building construction and it was pretty nasty to work with but not that bad watch is off easy without residue I'm like fiberglass a rock wool. My understanding is that 1 side was like a white dry erase board, However both sides have the jungle green plant paint.both sides also have fine grain not glass smooth, and surface is sort of sticky/tasty. Board is about 1/4" and completely stiff and flat and bit oversized so should be fine for drafting unlike most clip boards. Clip is nice basic sturdy metal held by 2 brass rivets that are near flush on back (drafting nice to have just flat).

Might remove clip and/or buy 2nd board.

[PogoJack]

I have seen the spall guard tests on AR500 and it looks like with 55gr 5.56, there will be enough spall to cut your jugular if you are unlucky.

I got some spall guards now. My plates came without the factory build up. Would it make any sense to put a few coats of bed liner on it?

This is for my trunk rig that has to endure several Arizona summers.

[crufflers]

I got some spall guards now. My plates came without the factory build up. Would it make any sense to put a few coats of bed liner on it?

Isn't most build up coating just bed liner or similar like LINE-X? Even Duct tape does something.

[PogoJack]

Isn't most build up coating just bed liner or similar like LINE-X? Even Duct tape does something.

[ShredLA]

I have a serbian production Yugo Zastava npap to trade if anyone has a set of medium multi curve composite plates, ideally level 4
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[crufflers]

Wow thank you for sharing. I can’t believe my eyes.

Right? Imagine what flexible Level IIIA duct taped or epoxied to a plate would do.

Nylon sleeves with multiple aramid layers just inserted on top of a steel plate really are more effective than that would be? Not that people are still messing with steel.

[Buffman]

speaking of IIIA, some HWIN today

[sirgrumps]

These have been requested quite a bit, and we finally were able to get one for testing.
https://tacticalscorpiongear.com/tac...x12-plate.html "armorking" is 20% off if you want one of them.
I like what TSG is doing with the construction of this plate. The hexagon tiles are proving to be a good thing for 5.56 threats, but .30 cal past M80 ball seems to be their limit.

I placed an order for these plates on 6-4-22.
Their website stated up to a 20 business day to fulfill orders.
I got the confirmation of shipment order today.

40 business days after the order

Not to happy about this.

[xrMike]

I placed an order for these plates on 6-4-22.
Their website stated up to a 20 business day to fulfill orders.
I got the confirmation of shipment order today.

40 business days after the order

Not to happy about this.

So, you ordered 6/4/22 and now the company tells you: "You will get your order 20 days later than expected..."

Do you really think you will receive a center of mass hit during those 20 days? During a particular instant in time when you are actually wearing those plates? When you are not sleeping? Or taking a ****? Or feeding your kids? Or making love to your girlfriend or wife?

99.9% of all Calguns "operators" who order plates will put those plates in a closet, or their garage, or the trunk of their car, for some imaginary day or event that will likely never happen...

20 days is nothing to be outraged about.

Instead, be thankful you can even afford the plates in the 1st place. You are doing something right. You are better off (and smarter!) than 90% of the general population...

No hate here, just tough love my friend.

Sit back, wait, and be happy when you get them.

[Big Chudungus]

What do you think of this helmet?https://www.ebay.com/itm/23463529152...8AAOSwzg5i3asQ
What does the "in process of converting" mean and is that legit and good? Does that mostly only matter for IEDs not 9mm?

I'm thinking of getting it or similar for Armed Guard duty. Doubt I'd be wearing it all day/night, more like just when I make a round late at night or go investigate something.

What about the similar but "new" for about $150. Does mean "made in China"?

Don't see any of those in XL (which my melon certainly is).

[sirgrumps]

So, you ordered 6/4/22 and now the company tells you: "You will get your order 20 days later than expected..."

Do you really think you will receive a center of mass hit during those 20 days? During a particular instant in time when you are actually wearing those plates? When you are not sleeping? Or taking a ****? Or feeding your kids? Or making love to your girlfriend or wife?

99.9% of all Calguns "operators" who order plates will put those plates in a closet, or their garage, or the trunk of their car, for some imaginary day or event that will likely never happen...

20 days is nothing to be outraged about.

Instead, be thankful you can even afford the plates in the 1st place. You are doing something right. You are better off (and smarter!) than 90% of the general population...

No hate here, just tough love my friend.

Sit back, wait, and be happy when you get them.

I am annoyed that I was charged and paid for the item, BEFORE shipment.
My previous experience is that they charge your card after shipment, not before production.

[xrMike]

I am annoyed that I was charged and paid for the item, BEFORE shipment.
My previous experience is that they charge your card after shipment, not before production.

Ahhhh, if you said that, I did not catch it, that is understandable then. I hate it when companies do that also. Seems unethical to me. They are in effect, borrowing your money, free of charge.

[sirgrumps]

These have been requested quite a bit, and we finally were able to get one for testing.
https://tacticalscorpiongear.com/tac...x12-plate.html "armorking" is 20% off if you want one of them.
I like what TSG is doing with the construction of this plate. The hexagon tiles are proving to be a good thing for 5.56 threats, but .30 cal past M80 ball seems to be their limit.

Hey Buffman,

How were these plates packaged when they were sent to you?
I just received mine, and the plates were not packed in a box.

Is this normal?

Thx

[Buffman]

Hey Buffman,

How were these plates packaged when they were sent to you?
I just received mine, and the plates were not packed in a box.

Is this normal?

Thx

It's been awhille. How were yours packaged? I think mine was in a box..

[Buffman]

I'm not sure how people feel about Tactical SH&T. They seem to have 5+yr ago Botach CS/fullfillment timelines, but the few orders I have placed with them recently I have gotten albeit slow. These are Chase Tactical 4S17M's, which are rebranded Highcom. 7.2lb, mulit-curve, and 10x12. At $179 each, that's a good weight savings over the RMA 1155.

Highcom (Chase Tactical) 4S17M