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  • #31
    uscbigdawg
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 1869

    Well over 100k rounds loaded on 3 different Dillon presses and no issues. I don't think that it's luck any longer. Press is bolted to the bench. Bench is on the concrete floor in the garage. I suppose I'm grounded as I'm generally wearing flip flops while reloading.

    I'm not saying it's not a potential problem, but haven't heard it in over 3 decades of reloading and shooting.

    Rich
    "Speed is a tactic!" - R.W.

    "Pressure is what you feel when you don't know what you're doing." - Chuck Knox

    "The callus on my finger is from my trigger, not the keyboard!" - Rob Leatham

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    • #32
      rsrocket1
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 2769

      Originally posted by uscbigdawg
      I'm not saying it's not a potential problem, but haven't heard it in over 3 decades of reloading and shooting.

      Rich
      Do a Google search. It seems like it's a little more common than we all think.

      I cited a couple of other threads in post #82 of his initial topic.

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      • #33
        wash
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2007
        • 9011

        Thinking about this, you might get a lot of safety by just slitting one wall of the inner tube. That will allow the gas to escape faster and might avoid igniting more primers.

        The difficulty is that the interior has to be smooth enough to feed primers and a long slit will weaken the tube a lot (but double wall construction would solve that).
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        • #34
          grant22
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 625

          Like I said, we can 'what if' it to death and speculate how it should/would work.....but the definitive answer will be lighting this f-er off.

          I'll keep you posted.
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          • #35
            Justintoxicated
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 3836

            Why don't they just make the tubes out of anti ESD plastic?

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            • #36
              uscbigdawg
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 1869

              Originally posted by rsrocket1
              Do a Google search. It seems like it's a little more common than we all think.

              I cited a couple of other threads in post #82 of his initial topic.
              Nah. No need. I've reloaded the way I have for a long time and a LOT of rounds. Respecting the components that you're handling and focusing on one thing at a time works pretty well.

              Rich
              "Speed is a tactic!" - R.W.

              "Pressure is what you feel when you don't know what you're doing." - Chuck Knox

              "The callus on my finger is from my trigger, not the keyboard!" - Rob Leatham

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              • #37
                MFortie
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1143

                Originally posted by Justintoxicated
                Why don't they just make the tubes out of anti ESD plastic?
                Or wood?
                "The lunatic is in the hall.
                The lunatics are in my hall.
                The paper holds their folded faces to the floor,
                And every day the paper boy brings more."

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                • #38
                  NoJoke
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1538

                  Hey Grant, make a video of your testing of the prototype. I'd like to see a tube of primers going off so I can better put into perspective on what we're talking about blast wise....

                  NO ISSUE / MAY ISSUE / SHALL ISSUE - LTC progress over time since 1986

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                  • #39
                    problemchild
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 6959

                    Plug it into the wall and see if it contains the blast. Ill shoot the video.

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                    • #40
                      NoJoke
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1538

                      Another simple idea....attach a ground wire from your prototype to an aligator clip so that it can be grounded (similar to a wrist strap).

                      NO ISSUE / MAY ISSUE / SHALL ISSUE - LTC progress over time since 1986

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                      • #41
                        Brian1979
                        Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 483

                        I googled it and it appears cotton speedos are required and they are best worn without a shirt while reloading. If you really want to cover your bases then a complete shave is necessary of all body hair.

                        Just please dont post any pictures of this though.

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                        • #42
                          Brian1979
                          Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 483

                          Originally posted by uscbigdawg
                          Nah. No need. I've reloaded the way I have for a long time and a LOT of rounds. Respecting the components that you're handling and focusing on one thing at a time works pretty well.

                          Rich
                          I think even the most experienced can learn things some times but typically this attitude is what I get to experience from those not willing to. I hope you got it all figured out and know all there is to know. No need to read any further if that is the case.

                          Be well

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                          • #43
                            NoJoke
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 1538

                            I received 2 tubes today.
                            One is titanium (and expensive)
                            One is stainless steel and compared to titanium is pennies ($5).

                            Question: which choice would best offer some protection should the stack go off? a .028" thick tube of titanium or a .028" thick tube of SS?

                            NO ISSUE / MAY ISSUE / SHALL ISSUE - LTC progress over time since 1986

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                            • #44
                              theduece
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 768

                              Originally posted by Fyathyrio
                              Idea seems sound, only potential problem I see is the set screws possibly distorting primer tube and preventing smooth movement of primers.
                              Completely agree with this. The aluminum tube will distort leaving you with stuck primers inside. IMHO it may not happen immediately but would think it won't take long.

                              Originally posted by Lead Waster
                              I think WASH might have a good point about the enclosed tube. And yes, you should test it. The air space will help absorb the explosion, but it the outer steel tube turns into a gun barrel or rocket launcher tube, you might be shooting the unexploded primers out both ends.

                              Let us know how the testing goes!

                              I liked that idea in the other thread about the kevlar tube sock. I wonder if wrapping a tube in leather might work as well?
                              By reinforcing the single wall tube you are creating the opurtunity for a larger kaboom.

                              Originally posted by NoJoke
                              I received 2 tubes today.
                              One is titanium (and expensive)
                              One is stainless steel and compared to titanium is pennies ($5).

                              Question: which choice would best offer some protection should the stack go off? a .028" thick tube of titanium or a .028" thick tube of SS?
                              ......

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                              • #45
                                theduece
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 768

                                Stoopid iPod.

                                IMHO the best option is making sure you are grounded at all times. My press is grounded through the casefeeder. But after this I am going to run an additional ground to the
                                press itself.

                                You are thinking correctly by trying to divert explosive forces rather than contain them.
                                ......

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