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  • #16
    vdubber
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 369

    I got both. I'll try sizing them also.

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    • #17
      rsrocket1
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 2769

      Yup, next time size them before loading them. The PC bullets glide through a Lee push through sizer and take very little effort. The FCD could swage them down beyond .355" and they may rotate in the case or even fall out. To alleviate that, just put a little crimp on the mouth. This is a band-aid on top of a band-aid and will not be a problem if you simply size the PC bullets before seating them.

      You could flare the mouth of the 9mm case just a bit so the sized PC bullet sits a little in the case without falling over. That makes the seating process easier.

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      • #18
        pennstater
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 4660

        Damn, just have not seen these issues that some are having with the FCD.
        Curious as to why some have problems and some don't. I cannot believe that Lee would make some dies waaay out of spec and others spot on. Puzzeling.

        MLC

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        • #19
          TomReloaded
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 1637

          Swaging down bullets with the Lee fcd isn't a problem. It helps them chamber, and they shoot perfectly fine. Coated isn't a problem.

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          • #20
            SG29736
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 1107

            I've only had a problem with some 45 cal 200gr swc bullets that have no lube groove. I've loaded and shot thousands of the same bullet with the lube groove with no issues. Then I got a case without the lube groove and when I loaded the first hundred of them about 25% faile in my hundo guage. I've run the rest of the bullets through a Lee .452 sizer die and they've loaded fine. No problems with 9mm or 40 cal bullets. These are all hi tech coated.

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            • #21
              smoothy8500
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3846

              Originally posted by SG29736
              and when I loaded the first hundred of them about 25% failed in my hundo guage.
              What's a "hundo guage"? More importantly, did they pass the "plunk" test in your barrel? I quit using test gauges when a lot of them were cut to minimum spec and my barrel easily chambered everything.

              Yeah, sometimes the Hi Tek coating adds to the diameter and can affect chambering. Set the crimp properly and make sure case mouth is below max diameter. Hopefully that is all it needs.
              Last edited by smoothy8500; 04-15-2022, 9:59 AM.

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              • #22
                vdubber
                Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 369

                Hundo gauge he spoke of checks 100 9mm at a time. I used me barrel also, they didn't go in. 5" CMMG barrel.

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                • #23
                  Bastard
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 2209

                  the hundo works great and is much tighter than most other gauges out there and there are slightly different tolerances between the silver & black one...

                  OP I'm willing to be that the problems you have having has nothing to do with what you are doing rather it lies with what you are using as this issue comes up a lot with cast/coated 9mm bullets, bullet profile. While they will work in some barrels other, while within spec, are cut with slightly shorter throats and you will drive the ogive into the lands before it is fully chambered... if that doesn't make any sense, I'm sure Randal will be along shortly to clean it up for me

                  most of the major manufactures have changes to a more forgiving profile but some of the smaller manufactures are still using the old molds
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                  • #24
                    vdubber
                    Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 369

                    Yeah, after I make these work I'm changing to another brand. Good info, thanks.

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                    • #25
                      NeilMo
                      Member
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 356

                      Originally posted by pennstater
                      Damn, just have not seen these issues that some are having with the FCD.
                      Curious as to why some have problems and some don't. I cannot believe that Lee would make some dies waaay out of spec and others spot on. Puzzeling.

                      MLC
                      Could be that Lee products are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. Here's a FCD that I keep for the non-believers. I picked this one up several years ago and it was one of the first ones I had a problem with. Check out the beautiful finish on the carbide sizing ring. Lee Precision it is not. I've got bastard files that are less rough.

                      This die not only swaged .356" coated bullets, it also got tight with a .355" jacked bullet. It'll do a number on your brass too. First time ever I had to call Lee and they were easy to deal with and stand by their products, except they won't pay for shipping, you do. F-that, I just took it back to the shop where I bought it and they gave me another one and told me to keep this one.


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                      • #26
                        Sandspider500
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 1146

                        Looks like that ring has a mirror finish. The rest of the die looks pretty ruff.
                        Originally posted by Palmaris
                        You should not worry about me. This web site is monitored by all kind of authorities and if they found this kind of post credible enough as threat, they might want to start investigation. I have no idea what can be outcome. Just saying.

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                        • #27
                          pennstater
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 4660

                          Originally posted by NeilMo
                          Could be that Lee products are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. Here's a FCD that I keep for the non-believers. I picked this one up several years ago and it was one of the first ones I had a problem with. Check out the beautiful finish on the carbide sizing ring. Lee Precision it is not. I've got bastard files that are less rough.

                          This die not only swaged .356" coated bullets, it also got tight with a .355" jacked bullet. It'll do a number on your brass too. First time ever I had to call Lee and they were easy to deal with and stand by their products, except they won't pay for shipping, you do. F-that, I just took it back to the shop where I bought it and they gave me another one and told me to keep this one.


                          Damn! Looks like you got the exception, not the rule. After seeing that, I checked my Lee FCD's. None looked like that. Stuff happens I suppose. Still have no issues using them. In fact, just finished 100 rounds of .45 acp. Things working as they should.

                          MLC

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                          • #28
                            vdubber
                            Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 369

                            Here is the one I just got

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                            • #29
                              pennstater
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 4660

                              After looking at these last two pics of Lee FCD's, I had to look at mine again.
                              The carbide sizer ring on my .38/.357, .45 acp and .45 Colt look to be larger, in other words, about a 1/4", where as , what I can see in those pics is maybe, an 1/8"? And no tooling marks like I see on yours. Very smooth. Perhaps the older dies are indeed more precise. Don't know; just what I see.

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                              • #30
                                vdubber
                                Member
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 369

                                Womder if i Flitz (non abbrasive polish) what will happen

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