Neck sizing

[J-cat]

Well yes. Another cause of trouble is boltface being out of square to the bore.

[JagerDog]

When you neck size you don’t have .0005” clearance. You have variable clearance that makes it increasingly harder to close the bolt with each reload cycle Then you’re grinding the bolt lugs against the lug recess which leads to galling if you’re retarded and continue to neck size.

Any clearance is clearance. Variable or not.

[J-cat]

You don’t get it. You might have clearance after the initial firing, but none after the second, and negative clearance after that.

[longrange1]

The guy in this video is an idiot. I have been neck sizing for 45+ years, never a problem.

If you are paying attention to what you are doing (you should always pay atention), necking sizing is fine.

and you have NEVER had to full length size a case in your 45yrs?

[Ramsh00ter]

Sorry, must disagree. If your neck sizing die is adjusted correctly and you are not overloading the case with too hot of a load, you will not have any trouble.

I shot High Power Silo for years, 308 Win was my go to round. Typically shot between to 5-7000 rounds a year. Never did anything but neck size. I had 308 cases with 25-30 firings on them ZERO problems.

You can have the same trouble you describing with a full length die that is adjusted incorrectly.

The only time I FL size is when I am loading for a hunt it 10-20 degree weather.

Just as Randall, I have seen bolt handles broke off, galled lugs a number of times. Never seen it that could be traced to neck sizing. Maladjusted dies by novice re-loaders, yes, but not just because it is neck sized.

[J-cat]

If you shoot a custom rifle machined all perfect with minimum loads then yes, but what you propose will cause galling of the bolt lugs on factory rifles.

[Capt.Dunsel]

If your bullets are moving , like the question you mentioned in op ( this thread has gone a bit sideways) you could always add a drop of sodium silicate ( also called water glass) to each neck/bullet area to seal it up and hold them in place until you try annealing , full size resizing , or new brass .

Been done with brass shotgun shells for more years than even I can remember ..

[ar15barrels]

If you shoot a custom rifle machined all perfect with minimum loads then yes, but what you propose will cause galling of the bolt lugs on factory rifles.

Not unless the lugs are dry (no lube) and a little grit is introduced.
The lugs in a bolt rifle have lots of camming power to make a case fit.
As long as you keep them lubed, they can handle tight cases easier than they handle the explosion of the powder burn squirting the bullet out of the barrel.

[LynnJr]

RamShooter
I've been neck sizing for years and never had a problem with it myself.

[Ramsh00ter]

RamShooter
I've been neck sizing for years and never had a problem with it myself.

In the late 70's and early 70's I managed the Long Beach and Anaheim Andrews Sporting goods (now Turner's).

I got tired of guys coming in trying to impress us with their reloading and shooting skills, so I brought my first rail gun in and set it up on the back counter with a cover over it.

When I got someone making unfounded claims, I would pull the cover off and say "If you want to talk accuracy and reloading, I can do that! If you want to BS, I can do that too!"

After throwing the cover back on, it was amazing how fast the stories changed.

I'm no expert by any means, but I have loaded enough rounds to know how to set cases and appropriate dies to a rifle.

Claiming that neck sizing is not helping the OP figure out where his problem is.

If he is using a collet die and not getting enough tension to hold the bullet firmly, there are three possibilities:

1) Mandrel is over size
2) Brass is work hardened and needs anealing
3) Maladjusted die

OP, if you are in So Cal, PM me, I will be happy to help you☺

JMHO

[JagerDog]

[JagerDog]

Not unless the lugs are dry (no lube) and a little grit is introduced.
The lugs in a bolt rifle have lots of camming power to make a case fit.
As long as you keep them lubed, they can handle tight cases easier than they handle the explosion of the powder burn squirting the bullet out of the barrel.

Do you find it more prevalent on stainless? For hardware, stainless on stainless is very prone to galling.

[RestrictedColt]

This guy is as bad as Fguffy, roughly speaking.

I use the lee collet die and it works fine for me. I don't recall the adjustments, but if you're doing 'by the book' then you probably need a reduced diameter mandrel. I'm pretty sure they sell them, or you could stick yours in a drill and use sandpaper to thin it down about .001" and probably be good.

[God Bless America]

In the late 70's and early 70's I managed the Long Beach and Anaheim Andrews Sporting goods (now Turner's).

I got tired of guys coming in trying to impress us with their reloading and shooting skills, so I brought my first rail gun in and set it up on the back counter with a cover over it.

When I got someone making unfounded claims, I would pull the cover off and say "If you want to talk accuracy and reloading, I can do that! If you want to BS, I can do that too!"

I am wonderng what would have happened if you did that to fguffey. Might still be arguing to this very day.

[ar15barrels]

Do you find it more prevalent on stainless? For hardware, stainless on stainless is very prone to galling.

Most stainless receivers have a chromoly bolt so it's not any more prevalent in stainless actions than in chromoly actions.
Also, the bolt should be 10 points harder than the receiver so that the bolt and reciever are less prone to galling.