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  • #16
    jwfire25
    Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 477

    So I have a batch of 15 cases that won't size down enough to go into the rifle without resistance. The shell holder is touching the die. What would cause this? I have fired none resized brass that measures 1.626. And this problem brass after resizing measures 1.630. Its only been shot twice and I only used 41 grains of Varget.

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    • #17
      mjmagee67
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 2771

      I'm so disappointed that our resident developmentally disabled reloader hasn't chimed in.
      If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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      • #18
        smoothy8500
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3846

        Originally posted by jwfire25
        The shell holder is touching the die. What would cause this?
        Is that with the case in the die? Raise the ram to re-size another case and look to see if there is a slight gap between the die and shell holder. Under the pressure of re-sizing there will be stretching of the press/frame which creates a .004" gap. Bring the ram down and screw in the die another 1/16th of a turn. Test again with another fired/lubed case.
        Last edited by smoothy8500; 11-08-2018, 10:37 AM.

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        • #19
          kcheung2
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 4387

          What lube & how much are you using on those cases?
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          "There is no "best." If there was, everyone here would own that one, and no other." - DSB

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          • #20
            NorCalFocus
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 3913

            Originally posted by jwfire25
            So I have a batch of 15 cases that won't size down enough to go into the rifle without resistance. The shell holder is touching the die. What would cause this? I have fired none resized brass that measures 1.626. And this problem brass after resizing measures 1.630. Its only been shot twice and I only used 41 grains of Varget.

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            Crappy dies is usually what causes it. What die set are you using?

            I had a set of RCBS standard dies that I kept chasing my tail on trying to bump size my brass correctly. I was having the same issue you are over and over. If I didn't over size the brass, the die wouldn't work. Then I'd have case/head seperation after about 3-4 firings. I switched to Forster dies and haven't had an issue since. And yes I consider RCBS standard dies crappy dies for the purpose of what your doing.

            The only other thing could be if your running one brand of shell holder with another brand die. I know that has caused issues for some people in the past, although I've never had that issue myself.

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            • #21
              NorCalFocus
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2013
              • 3913

              Originally posted by kcheung2
              What lube & how much are you using on those cases?
              To add to this as well, any signs of hydrualic denting on your case shoulders?

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              • #22
                jimmykan
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 3093

                You can grind a few thousands off the top of your shell holder. Put it in a bench grinder or put it face down against 220 grit sandpaper on a hard flat surface, and move the shellholder in a figure 8 pattern.

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                • #23
                  J-cat
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2005
                  • 6626

                  Originally posted by jwfire25
                  So I have a batch of 15 cases that won't size down enough to go into the rifle without resistance. The shell holder is touching the die. What would cause this? I have fired none resized brass that measures 1.626. And this problem brass after resizing measures 1.630. Its only been shot twice and I only used 41 grains of Varget.

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                  Try Imperial sizing wax

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                  • #24
                    jwfire25
                    Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 477

                    All my equipment is hornady. Press and the custom dies. I am using one shot lube. I dont use very much because I have crushed brass before.

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                    • #25
                      highpower790
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 3481

                      Originally posted by mjmagee67
                      I'm so disappointed that our resident developmentally disabled reloader hasn't chimed in.
                      just a matter of time.
                      Keep it simple!

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                      • #26
                        NorCalFocus
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 3913

                        Originally posted by jwfire25
                        All my equipment is hornady. Press and the custom dies. I am using one shot lube. I dont use very much because I have crushed brass before.

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                        Your loading .308 right? I have a set of Redding competition shell holders that I don't use. If you want to give them a shot, I'll send em to you for a low low price. They have different thicknesses on each holder. allowing you to adjust how much bump you get on the brass.

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                        • #27
                          God Bless America
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2014
                          • 5165

                          Originally posted by smoothy8500
                          Oh no, someone just conjured the fguffey....
                          IBFG

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                          • #28
                            J-cat
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2005
                            • 6626

                            Originally posted by NorCalFocus
                            Your loading .308 right? I have a set of Redding competition shell holders that I don't use. If you want to give them a shot, I'll send em to you for a low low price. They have different thicknesses on each holder. allowing you to adjust how much bump you get on the brass.

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                            • #29
                              OpenSightsOnly
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1557

                              Originally posted by jwfire25
                              So I have a batch of 15 cases that won't size down enough to go into the rifle without resistance. The shell holder is touching the die. What would cause this? I have fired none resized brass that measures 1.626. And this problem brass after resizing measures 1.630. Its only been shot twice and I only used 41 grains of Varget.

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                              Seems like your FL die is not properly set-up.

                              Check this out, look for the FL die set-up instructions - https://www.hornady.com/support/user-manuals#!/

                              Also, for FL sizing, use Imperial Sizing Wax.

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                              • #30
                                smoothy8500
                                Veteran Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 3846

                                Originally posted by jwfire25
                                I have fired brass that measures 1.626. And this problem brass after resizing measures 1.630"
                                I just noticed his numbers. Isn't it odd that his fired brass is smaller than the SAAMI minimum Go Gauge? Still, dies should bring it down to 1.627" approximately.

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