tossing primers

[hambam105]

Don't worry 4570, I'm not going to rat you out.

In fact, if you're going to the yard I'd give you scrap to take with you and you can keep the money.

On these message boards there some impressionable people. When the instructions say, 1 pint of weed killer for ever 2 gallons of water, many will figure if 1 pint is good then 2 gallons of weed killer would be better. So goes safety concerns with reloading components.

Are you scrapping-out 1x fired USA manufacture boxer primed .223 and 9mm? I'll pay you more than scrap for those and most other USA 1x fired Rifle & Pistol brass.

[hambam105]

I was loading some primers one night and dropped a green anvil color primer on the cement floor. No sweat. I figure to just look for it, find it, and load it. BFD right.

After I picked it up and inserted it in the machine's primer cup holder, I noticed the green colored anvil suddenly switched to red.

So I asked myself, "SheetHead, how long has this been going on?" I didn't get a answer after 3 or 4 seconds so I happily continued reloading.

Some time later I find myself on the range. During casual conversation with another IPSC hozer, I learn that the 38 Super reloaders were using Magnum Small Rifle Primers.

Being a .45acp type, I had no idea of this practice. And the shooting world kept revolving with or without my understanding.

[GovGeek]

Do you have any facts about primers? Or is your expertise limited to setting off fireworks in your hands?

Uhhh, that was me. I'm the dummy who set off fireworks in his hand. FYI.

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[kendog4570]

Don't worry 4570, I'm not going to rat you out.

In fact, if you're going to the yard I'd give you scrap to take with you and you can keep the money.

On these message boards there some impressionable people. When the instructions say, 1 pint of weed killer for ever 2 gallons of water, many will figure if 1 pint is good then 2 gallons of weed killer would be better. So goes safety concerns with reloading components.

Are you scrapping-out 1x fired USA manufacture boxer primed .223 and 9mm? I'll pay you more than scrap for those and most other USA 1x fired Rifle & Pistol brass.

Nothing to rat me out about!
Here is a little back story.
As most reloaders know, it doesn't take long to accumulate brass and ammo in all shapes and sizes. I save all my shot-out brass along with spent primers for the scrap man. Couple of 5 gallon buckets makes for some nice mad money. Also any clean brass goes in the buckets. Broken hose nozzles, old plumbing fixtures, old keys, etc. It's all No 1 clean brass and goes for over $3 a pound. Ad to this random stuff that come our way like cleaning out man-caves of deceased shooters (old primed cases, reloaded rounds, stuff that is deteriorating, rounds broken down, etc).
I put all spent brass in buckets, primers and primed cases in separate sandwich bags, misc live ammo in a separate bag, and present it all to the buyers at Aaron Metals on 105th St in San Leandro. The two brothers that run the show may not be the owners, but they are definitely in charge.
Their workers see it coming and get a bin and a VERY powerful magnet and pour the contents of each container over the magnet. Any steel stuff sticks to the magnet and gets tossed out. I present the bags to the brothers and they direct the workers to either ad it to the bin or give it back to me. According to the brothers, they did not allow primers or primed cases in the past, but with new smelting procedures primed cases and a few random primers are OK. I have done this there many times over the years and never had any problem with this. A few years back they opened up a yard in Hayward which was closer to me at the time. I called to get a spot price on cartridge brass and the manger told me they dont take ammunition of any kind. I took it to the main yard and explained what happened and one of the brothers called him right away and set him straight.
They melt it by the tons and a few random pops are insignificant in that situation. Loaded ammo is not accepted. Bullets dont bring much as there are usually only a relatively small amount of them and they are bought as dirty lead. I doubt the metals get melted there, they probably go to some huge industrial smelter somewhere.
You can call them if you please.

Re: primers being explosive, the priming compound surely is. Packaging changes that quite a bit. That's why the big DOT approved boxes they come in now. They can be handled and shipped quite safely in them, and if they get set off by impact or heat they are much less likely to all go.

[stilly]

Uhhh, that was me. I'm the dummy who set off fireworks in his hand. FYI.

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You sir need more fingers if you are going to do that again.

[hambam105]

Sounds like a good blog topic to post in the 2nd half of my life.

The big metal recycler in San Jose tried to, unknowingly, recycle, something big that took out some expensive equipment. Now they are altra-paranoid which makes the landfills and the 2nd hand stores and what not even more paranoid. Local fire officials really bust the chops of Reloading component retail sales and home storage quantity regulations. Gun Show sellers claim that it's 10x worse in southern calif.

Long before CSI was a Tuesday night show on channel 5, our local Medical Examiner was a guest speaker during a Criminalistics class. And he enjoyed sharing his colored slide photos with the students.

One of the 1st slides were that of a young man killed by a reloading mishap. Apparently the good doctor and I were the only reloaders among the other people in the room. I did get to speak to him individually on separate occasions. In short, he told me directly that what the hobbyist reloader does on a regular basis is really not so different than what our victim was doing. I remember him saying, "...the slightest deviation...."

As of today, I personally know a guy who lost an eye, two guys burnt down their respective reloading garages, a couple more guys had Insurance claims issues do to reloading at home, fire marshal nightmare inspections, and plenty of burned and pinched fingers. And all this happened during the time I've known them.

Their problems do not deter me from enjoying reloading. I suppose I'm hyper-sensitive to anyone taking the safe handling of components lightly.

I am gently reminded of reloading mishaps from medical staff and court recorders profession types. I answer their questions a few times a year. Apparently they are trying to evaluate the accounts of what their patient or witness said they were doing. "Is a, 'Press', in this case, a noun or a verb?'' "What is a 'Load?'' are typical questions.

If I was rude in getting that message across then I am at fault, and I do apologize if someone was offended. I know the likelihood of my message getting across is limited if I hurt their feelings.

On a much lighter topic:
Current news indicates that world commodity prices are low. At the same time I really don't see much 1x fired brass offered for sale at decent prices. Therefore I was most surprised to know that you where taking 5 gallon bucket loads of brass to AM. If you have U.S. boxer 223 & 9mm brass I'm certain I can beat AMs prices.

Happy Easter.

[hambam105]

I remember some mean spirited Jr. High School yahoos lighting blackcats on top of their shoe showing the 6th graders how brave they were. Then the pukes dared the younger boys to light the next one under their own shoe.

Thanks a lot, George. Thanks Matthew. And now you dirtbags are coming around with concerns about whether we think our older sisters will go to the High School Senior Prom with you?

"Well I don't know for sure, George. I think she is always on the phone with some older dude, in College I think''.

[GovGeek]

You sir need more fingers if you are going to do that again.

Agreed, and I'd better be able to play that 12 string bass I've been eyeing for years.

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[stilly]

All the facts you need to know are already written on each Factory primer box you currently have.
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[GovGeek]

TLDR. Tossing them anyway. LOL[emoji1]

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[stilly]

I was loading some primers one night and dropped a green anvil color primer on the cement floor. No sweat. I figure to just look for it, find it, and load it. BFD right.

After I picked it up and inserted it in the machine's primer cup holder, I noticed the green colored anvil suddenly switched to red.

So I asked myself, "SheetHead, how long has this been going on?" I didn't get a answer after 3 or 4 seconds so I happily continued reloading.

Some time later I find myself on the range. During casual conversation with another IPSC hozer, I learn that the 38 Super reloaders were using Magnum Small Rifle Primers.

Being a .45acp type, I had no idea of this practice. And the shooting world kept revolving with or without my understanding.

I do not know with any certainty, but I would venture to guess that if you were able to read this, it might tell you all that you need to know about why your primer turned from green to red...

[hambam105]

Primers magically switching from green to red.

The reason the primer I retrieved from the cement floor magically switched from green to red was because:

There was more than 1 live primer on the ground and I only saw one.

I learned only one primer safety lesson. Will you?

[hambam105]

S&B had a huge sale on primers recently. I wonder if warning labels, in English, and packaging had anything to do with the price discount.

If someone needs warning labels on a pack of primers maybe they shouldn't be handling primers.

On the other hand, if someone intentionally disregards warning labels on primers, and act like the Principles of Heat, Spark, and combustion don't apply to them...well then maybe they shouldn't be handling primers either.

[Mayor McRifle]

The reason the primer I retrieved from the cement floor magically switched from green to red was because:

There was more than 1 live primer on the ground and I only saw one.

I learned only one primer safety lesson. Will you?

You're lucky that the red primer didn't blow up your reloading room. Wait a minute . . . it didn't blow up your reloading room. It just sat there doing nothing until you found it. Maybe there's a lesson there for you.

[hambam105]

The organization at this number should be able to assist those people whom the rules to not apply to. (661) 322-4025.