Marketplace issue

[JWHuey]

Well the seller does have some decent itrade and been around a while. I get your side but at the same time chill a little. Nothing makes me want to send money back and cancel a deal more than dudes that bombard you with texts messages and emails asking every 6 hours where the shipment is at.

Granted after a few days is understand but, some guys do go hog wild and need to relax. If the deal goes sour there are a few ways to get your money back and better ways of handeling things. People skills and patients goes a LONG way.


Second next time PM the mods and try to have it fixed internally than bash the guy publically right off the bat. We had a thread or 2 here of a smith and another shop which were torn apart by impatient people to later find out they had serious health issues and major life/family issues. And that guys couldn't wait a few weeks cause they wanted it now and basically almost ruined their business because they did have patients and a misunderstanding.

That said, with Kes's responce and the time passed, this may be interesting.

Either way I hope OP gets his upper. All ends well. Everyone is happy and we move on. Some guys need to learn some patients. After a week sure granted. But a few days? Come on. Sometimes it has taken me 2 days to find a box big enough to fit the items listed but not too big to jump the price x2 for shipping method.

This is BS.
As are the excuses & lack of communication of the seller the OP paid.

When you make a deal, whether is $10, or $10,000, being a man of your word is the only thing that means anything.

If you are a buyer, you pay, PROMPTLY.
If you are a seller, you ship PROMPTLY, or communicate why you have not.

A week or longer to ship is unacceptable without communication.

[Gavelek]

This is BS.
As are the excuses & lack of communication of the seller the OP paid.

When you make a deal, whether is $10, or $10,000, being a man of your word is the only thing that means anything.

If you are a buyer, you pay, PROMPTLY.
If you are a seller, you ship PROMPTLY, or communicate why you have not.

A week or longer to ship is unacceptable without communication.

Absolutely

[spyde12]

I sold a xbox a few months ago to a member in Nebraska. At the time, I had an itrader rating of 0! I understood if the buyer had anxiety, so I purposely over communicated. We had each other's cell phone numbers, so it saved time from PM each other.

We both understood that the only delay would be caused by the amount of time it took for me to receive the cashiers check in the mail. I gave him my word that I would only cash the check, when my next destination was to have it shipped.

When the check cleared, the buyer fulfilled their obligation and it was my turn to do mine. Once I got the tracking number, I texted it to the buyer and informed him that it will take a couple hours until any updates are published on their site.

Buyer got his stuff and I was free to spend the cash.

Personally, as a seller. The moment someone gives you their hard earned money, it's your moral obligation to see the deal through. If something happens and the deal can't be done, then give back the buyer their money. No harm, no foul. Stuff happens. I hope this gets resolved. Best of luck!

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[TonyNorCal]

Calguns needs a thunder dome in which members with a beef can fight it out for the base entertainment of the rest of us rabble.

[teetsjones]

Cal Guns Thunder Dome, Two men enter, and OT crowds in and argues.

[TonyNorCal]

Cal Guns Thunder Dome, Two men enter, and OT crowds in and argues.

LOL

[Steve_In_29]

I sold a xbox a few months ago to a member in Nebraska. At the time, I had an itrader rating of 0! I understood if the buyer had anxiety, so I purposely over communicated. We had each other's cell phone numbers, so it saved time from PM each other.

We both understood that the only delay would be caused by the amount of time it took for me to receive the cashiers check in the mail. I gave him my word that I would only cash the check, when my next destination was to have it shipped.

When the check cleared, the buyer fulfilled their obligation and it was my turn to do mine. Once I got the tracking number, I texted it to the buyer and informed him that it will take a couple hours until any updates are published on their site.

Buyer got his stuff and I was free to spend the cash.

Personally, as a seller. The moment someone gives you their hard earned money, it's your moral obligation to see the deal through. If something happens and the deal can't be done, then give back the buyer their money. No harm, no foul. Stuff happens. I hope this gets resolved. Best of luck!

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A cashiers check is no guarantee of payment. There are plenty of fake checks sent that only show up as bad days later. If goods have already been shipped you are SOL.

When a buyer pays with a check of any kind I CLEARLY tell them the item will go out AFTER it clears. So a week gets added to the transaction but nobody is ripped off.

I am with the OP on this though, as communication is KEY. If something came up how hard would it be (for the guy Kes stated was online reading the thread) to have sent a quick PM letting the buyer know what was causing the delay.

[spyde12]

A cashiers check is no guarantee of payment. There are plenty of fake checks sent that only show up as bad days later. If goods have already been shipped you are SOL.

When a buyer pays with a check of any kind I CLEARLY tell them the item will go out AFTER it clears. So a week gets added to the transaction but nobody is ripped off.

I am with the OP on this though, as communication is KEY. If something came up how hard would it be (for the guy Kes stated was online reading the thread) to have sent a quick PM letting the buyer know what was causing the delay.

When I stated that it cleared, I meant that I took it to my bank and got the cash in my hands. I would never accept personal checks. I still think that a cashiers check is a safe bet since the money has already been accounted for. Otherwise, the post office wouldn't issue it.

If it didn't clear, then I wouldn't have shipped the item and I would've notified the buyer. It's also my understanding, even if the cashiers check was in my possession, the sender could've canceled. So once I had the cash, then IMO, finalizing the transaction was on me.

EDIT: my bad, I meant money order and not cashiers check.
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[desertrider]

I ask if the seller will accept a USPS MO when I buy from marketplace, unless they are close enough to do a FTF transaction.

A couple of years ago I bought a scope from a member on SnipersHide and sent payment by an Instagram money order. Well, the seller said he never received payment, and so the accusations and mistrust started to build, for a short time. It took about a month to work things out, but comms between us was great and we both got along great in the end.

I only use USPS money orders now because dealing with Instagram was a nightmare, and I ended up having to pay either a twenty or thirty dollar processing fee to get my money back from them.

I recently bought something from a member here in which payment to him got lost also. Since it was during the holiday season I'm guessing the USPS just lost it. The member was totally cool and cooperative, probably because I kept him constantly updated with all the steps I was taking to resolve the issue.

Good communication skills goes a long way in diffusing problems.

[-hanko]

This is BS.
As are the excuses & lack of communication of the seller the OP paid.

When you make a deal, whether is $10, or $10,000, being a man of your word is the only thing that means anything.

If you are a buyer, you pay, PROMPTLY.
If you are a seller, you ship PROMPTLY, or communicate why you have not.

A week or longer to ship is unacceptable without communication.

I agree with the BS factor in OP's transaction.

Normally, when I sell a weapon I advise I'll take USPS money orders only, and I also advise the buyer that the deal is dead without a money order received within 5 USPS business days of the "I'll take it".

I'll also advise in the ad that the weapon will ship within 2 business days of receipt of the payment. Normally the weapon goes out the next day, but the 2 days give me a little CYA if something "comes up".

Having someone else ship a weapon for you when you've got the money is OK, but that said, it's still your arse if your brother/wife/mother/SO etc. can't get to it.

Far more flakiness here than on other weapons forums, imo.

I hope the OP gets the issue straightened out, and posts appropriate neutral feedback.

[NotEnoughGuns]

he's online right now !?!

Whats up with the pink shoes?

[I Swan]

I totally would thunderdome or duel some people I've dealt with in my life. I was born in the wrong century. Current society keeps scum alive and lets weak men run their mouths and run scams without much penalty in many cases. I have no children or anyone depending on me 100% so doesn't bother me.

Even worse than a lack of communication I've actually had someone in a deal gone sour taunt me through posts and PM. As CK32 mentioned though people that nag and bug about shipping their product seconds after you receive payment are bad too.

I'd rather not have their business and I have banned such people before from future business dealings. What I do tend to sell usually is quite rare too so it's a loss for them. Last gun I sold had a production run of 500.

[CK_32]

he's online right now !?!

Whats up with the pink shoes?

Who ever said it was a he? Maybe he, is a she?

[deerdeerdeer]

When I stated that it cleared, I meant that I took it to my bank and got the cash in my hands. I would never accept personal checks. I still think that a cashiers check is a safe bet since the money has already been accounted for. Otherwise, the post office wouldn't issue it.

If it didn't clear, then I wouldn't have shipped the item and I would've notified the buyer. It's also my understanding, even if the cashiers check was in my possession, the sender could've canceled. So once I had the cash, then IMO, finalizing the transaction was on me.

EDIT: my bad, I meant money order and not cashiers check.
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Cashier checks can bounce back and then you'll lose out on your XBOX + paying the bank back, double loss. Yes you can get the cash on hand, but the bank will contact you 10 days later that you owe money now. Even the government has info on it.

http://www.occ.gov/news-issuances/consumer-advisories/2007/consumer-advisory-2007-1.html

[Southwest Chuck]

Who ever said it was a he? Maybe he, is a she?

Could be both? Could be a he/she or an "it" too ...