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  • #31
    osis32
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2009
    • 5912

    It's bs. I would be livid if the agreed on price was altered in the other parties favor. I too have been lucky and only dealt with quality cgers. We usually end up talking for quite a while afterwards as well. Thanks to everyone I've done business with here keeping me from being more cynical than i already am :-)
    Just a libertarian guy in a Leftist Authoritarian state.

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    • #32
      scott_kart
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 534

      If the item is as listed, no material undisclosed issues, and the price has been agreed to, offering a lower price is just bad form.

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      • #33
        mrfat
        Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 208

        What was their iTrader score? If it's zero then I'd be inclined to ask for at least a $20 deposit. That way if they no show or try to low ball you can just leave and it won't be a total loss on your part. There was a member here who kept trying to lowball people and would always say he'd take various guns that were priced at the $400 mark. Then he'd show up with only $300 and say that was the best he could do.

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        • #34
          BigPimping
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2010
          • 21462

          The person that would lowball you at the FFL is a classless jerk. I too would walk away with nothing else said.
          sigpic

          PIMP stands for Positive Intellectual Motivated Person

          When pimping begins, friendship ends.

          Don't let your history be a mystery

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          • #35
            Flintlock Tom
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 3353

            I've bought and sold many guns on here and on Gunbroker.com. I've only had one bad experience. A guy agreed to buy a heavy barrel for a Mosin Nagant for $70. He showed up at the meeting place and only had $10. He said he would get the rest to me "by the end of the month." I agreed and shook his hand. It took almost a year to get him to pay up.
            His name is Jason. Maybe you've heard of him.
            "Everyone must determine for themselves what level of tyranny they are willing to tolerate.
            I let my CA residency expire in 2015."

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            • #36
              G-Man WC
              In Memoriam
              • Oct 2005
              • 10991

              D-Bag move on buyers part. If I were close to home at PPT location,
              I'd just as soon not sell on principle and walk.
              Oh and out them please!
              -g
              If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
              -Samuel Adams

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              • #37
                Dano3467
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2013
                • 7381

                The agreed upon price is the price, unless something like poor disclosure of item makes a difference...

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                • #38
                  newair
                  Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 226

                  And thank you for being a stand up guy. I'll guarantee you there are more of us, than them.

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                  • #39
                    SoberClurichaun
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1437

                    That's what itrader is there for!
                    "The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny."
                    -Aesop's Fables The Wolf and the Lamb.

                    WTS Toth Tools, AK misc, and Streamlight TLR3
                    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...3#post19963273

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                    • #40
                      Captiontom
                      Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 464

                      Dick move on the buyer. The only time I would ever negotiate after a price is agreed upon is if there is something wrong with the gun that I wasn't informed of. If someone tried that on me I would leave. They are planning on you thinking to yourself "well I already made the drive what is $50" but they also had to go out of their way for the purchase so why wouldn't the seller have just as much leverage to say the price is now $550 not $500?

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                      • #41
                        hellayella
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 5578

                        screw that if the buyer trys to lowball me onnce we're meeting already at the LGS...walk away...

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                        • #42
                          joefrank64k
                          @ the Dark End of the Bar
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 10124

                          IMHO, the only time the price can be renegotiated is if there's some sort of misrepresentation or unintentional omission.

                          I met a CG'r to buy a Benelli M1S90 w/factory Comp. It was listed as BNIB. The seller walks in with it slung over his shoulder.

                          - I ask, "Where's the box?"
                          - He says, "There's no box."
                          - I say, "But you're OP said 'BNIB'?!"
                          - He said, "I meant it was LIKE a new one in the box."

                          I look it over. It had clearly been used...

                          - I say, "It's used?!"
                          - He says, "Yeah, I guess I screwed up!"

                          He was asking $900, I told him I'd take it for $700. He agreed. This was the only time the price changed on a deal, but it was warranted.
                          Last edited by joefrank64k; 09-08-2014, 9:08 PM.
                          You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
                          If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
                          Come on...what harm??

                          joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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                          • #43
                            hermosabeach
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 19708

                            It is a negotiation process. My wife might be pretty to me and you find her ugly.



                            I don't see how one would make a full price offer on anything except a new firearm until detailed pictures and or inspection.
                            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                            • #44
                              Gryff
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              • May 2006
                              • 12687

                              I went 30 miles out of my way once to meet a Calgunner for a purchase after agreeing on the deal by email. When I got there, he tried to negotiate $200 off the price. I said no and closed the gun case. He said that he would pay the original price, but I turned around and walked out.

                              My other favorite was the Calgunners who tried to negotiate me down after we met at the FFL because he "didn't realize my ad had been posted for two months." He thought I had just listed the gun. WTF? He wanted the gun at the asking price if I had just posted it, but wasn't going to pay that amount if had it been up for awhile? And he dragged me 20 miles from home to figure this out? That is definitely not someone I am reducing the price for.
                              Last edited by Gryff; 09-08-2014, 9:22 PM.
                              My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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                              • #45
                                The Gleam
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 13026

                                Post a LOT of good photos, all angles, give a REALLY good description, leave nothing out, state the good AND the bad clearly, and be firm on price for that reason. A good ad should have no less than 12 photos of the gun at different angles, close-ups of any flaws, with the action open, etc.

                                If your ad is good enough, staying firm on your price is fair and warranted because it leaves out any room for surprise.

                                The internet and digital cameras (even most phone cameras are now 5 mega-pixels and up) make it so easy to not need "an inspection" for additional determination - OR "negotiation."
                                -----------------------------------------------
                                Originally posted by Librarian
                                What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                                If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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