Buyers Negotiating During Transfer Process

[TransplantTexan]

I had this happen this weekend, I am selling my Kayak. The buyer was communicating with me for the last week trying to get me to lower the price. After insisting I would not he agreed to the price and we set an appointment for Sat morning.

He showed up saying he only had 60 less that what we agreed to. I basically told him to leave and not contact me again. He then 'FOUND' the 60 he needed to be able to pay me my price. I told him I will not sell to him even if he offered me more than I was asking and I asked him to leave...

I have no time for these morons and the games they may play after the sale.

This is along the lines of what I think should be done. Price is agreed upon and the buyer comes and tries to lower the agreed upon price. Say no but since he reopened the negotiations you're now free to ask for a higher price since the agreed upon price is no longer acceptable to him. Up the price by $25 and tell them to take it or leave it.

[Joe]

I will never accept any negotiation at the gun store. That's annoying as hell and the person is obnoxious. I would refuse to do business with them ever again. The guy who bought your s&w has 3 posts. I sometimes skip those buyers for more veteran members with better feedback and more posts. I can't stand flakes.

[stix213]

Re-negotiating the price only seems reasonable to me if some issue such as scratches or other problems weren't previously disclosed in the ad or PMs. For example, you show up to pick up a 1911 and find the slide has several scratches that conveniently weren't included in any pictures, that sounds reasonable to try to knock off $100 if you're even still interested.

Otherwise, if everything is as described, the negotiated price is the price or people are going home empty handed.

[CK_32]

^Tere Hanges?

And no, it's not part of the game. There are different parts of a sale: the offer, the negotiating, closing the deal. When the negotiating is done and you've agreed to close the deal, it's past time to negotiate.

Trying to negotiate after you've agreed on a price and cost the seller time and money (drive expenses) then it's in bad faith to try and re-negotiate just because you've cost them money. I think that type of shenanigans deserves negative i-trader.

If you agreed to meet and inspect an item without talking price, then it's appropriate to negotiate on the spot and either close the deal or leave. But if a price is agreed in advance, then it's a done deal.

Gatta love auto correct

I agree to a point, but no deal is complete IMO until FTF inspection. Which is when they usually try to give a lower offer. I personally never agree on a price before FTF and the item is in my hands. We may agree on a price if it's kosher but if there is a breakage, crack, or a normal wear or part missing I then negotiate accordingly. Not until hands shake is my price for sale or purchase done until that point.

Again because item description sometimes can be misleading. I give them as a seller and my self as a buyer a chance to be sure the item is worth the price listed and agreed on. Usually is but can't hurt to know for sure that way it's not a "I got screwed" battle once boy parties get home.

[GMG]

If someone tried that renegotiate the price crap on me, I would have walked in a heart beat.

[sealocan]

I must have always just been lucky,
every time I've met a Calgunner in person they have always paid the amount we both negotiated and agreed upon.
and I can see asking for 20 or 30 dollars off if the item was not exactly as described or small cosmetic blemish was found that had not been described but asking for $100 off the agreed upon price at the point of sale at the gun store is just something that a craigslist scammer would try.

I appreciate you walking away when you can on people who think they can get away with that.

[smashycrashy]

I just meet up @ my LGS and nowhere else now. They have to drive to me, if they want to drive back empty handed then it's not much time wasted for me. I haven't had a single problem doing things this way.

[BANG BANG]

I am continually impressed by the sincerity, honesty, and integrity of the cg community. Unfortunately, there are always a few bad apples. When you think about it, we are often buying/selling a potentially dangerous product. We buy with a visual inspection but how many ever test fire the gun. There really has to be a high level of trust there. I really think cger's are good people.

100 % agree. but if the seller / owner has high feedback there is a level

of trust expected. But you can also PPT at a LGS that has a range

to test fire and examine.

[dirtrider04]

Ya' know what's fun to do with these people?

When they try to negotiate the $100 off the Agreed Upon Price tell them "No, that's not what we agreed on, and now the price has gone up $100."

They usually think you're just kidding, and then when they say okay to the agreed upon price, watch their face when you stick to the higher price.

haha please tell us you have done this!??

I would never try to low ball after agreeing to a previous amount because if that happened to me I would be pissed. If there was a gross misrepresentation of the product I would decline to buy as I don't know what is truth or fiction now.

[Canadadry]

I just meet up @ my LGS and nowhere else now. They have to drive to me, if they want to drive back empty handed then it's not much time wasted for me. I haven't had a single problem doing things this way.

Good Idea.

[toby]

My answer would have been STERN, goodbye!

[DSB]

Any attempts to renegotiate after the details are agreed upon is insulting. I would definitely walk away from anyone who showed up and tried to pay less.

[Loubot10]

This is just an extension of the BS "It doesn't hurt to try" school of thought.

Whether I'm selling or buying, I communicate the finished price and terms in writing.

I'd say goodbye, sell it to someone else, and flame the moron for his swap meet tactics.

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

I had this happen this weekend, I am selling my Kayak. The buyer was communicating with me for the last week trying to get me to lower the price. After insisting I would not he agreed to the price and we set an appointment for Sat morning.

He showed up saying he only had 60 less that what we agreed to. I basically told him to leave and not contact me again. He then 'FOUND' the 60 he needed to be able to pay me my price. I told him I will not sell to him even if he offered me more than I was asking and I asked him to leave...

I have no time for these morons and the games they may play after the sale.

I like this approach. Here on Calguns we have the option to give them negative iTrader and I'd do that, too.

This approach looks like fun also:

Ya' know what's fun to do with these people?

When they try to negotiate the $100 off the Agreed Upon Price tell them "No, that's not what we agreed on, and now the price has gone up $100."

They usually think you're just kidding, and then when they say okay to the agreed upon price, watch their face when you stick to the higher price.

[ldsnet]

Unless the item offered for sale is not in the condition that was listed, then there should be no further negotiation. You are right on OP and your rant is warranted.