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  • chainsaw
    Banned
    • Jan 2007
    • 660

    I would say it should depend on the time of day, and perhaps on the event.

    For formal shooting disciplines (trap, skeet), formal attire should be worn: In the afternoon and evening, white tie (top hat with tails), and in the morning the corresponding formal attire (morning coat, cummerbund, grey tie). For more informal disciplines (such as pistol shooting) in the afternoon, black tie (tuxedo) might be appropriate, but one should avoid looking like a redneck. Simple rule of thumb: You should be ready to proceed from the range right to the opera ball, without having to be ashamed of your getup. Here is an example (for both gents and gals) of what one should look like:


    For events with a hunting connection, traditional hunting dress can also be appropriate, but that is less common on the range. Here is a classy example:
    Last edited by chainsaw; 02-02-2014, 8:25 PM.

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    • Excelsior
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 4215

      Originally posted by Chaparral
      LOL! This thread has generated a little bit of light but mostly heat and sparks.
      Were I in charge of a range, open to the general public I would be compelled for reasons of liability to mandate eye and ear protection. If the agency that provides liability coverage were to give me a significant discount on premiums for mandating close toed shoes I would mandate those as well. It wouldn't matter if I was a county supervisor or a private landowner operating a range, liability is liability and insurance premiums affect the bottom line no matter who is paying them.

      Very true.

      Originally posted by Chaparral
      If I were operating a private membership based club, I would prefer my patrons not wear apparel with racial epithets or profanity..basically any words Kestryll would not want us posting here on his forum.
      This would be true even for a gov't owned range in most cases. If patrons were allowed to wear garb with racial epithets and/or profanity, that really could be used as a basis for a lawsuit and more importantly, drive others away from the range.

      Originally posted by Chaparral
      Tank tops never bothered me and I can't see the issue with those. Gang apparel might be tricky to sort out: for example, does anything with the Raiders emblem automatically count as gang apparel? A red/blue/black hoodie? Back when I was in highschool one could get shot over a red bomber jacket and a visiting church group from the Midwest was admonished to be careful. Hassling people over their alleged gang apparel could open one up to more lawsuits than their insurance carrier can stomach and that'll get a place shut down as quickly as anything.
      I've never heard of an establishment being closed because they banned gang garb/colors -- and yes, some get pretty specific about what's allowed and what's not.

      Originally posted by Chaparral
      That being said, for the last 25 years, 8 months out of the year I'd shoot revolvers, slow firing 1911s and bolt guns in cargo shorts, tank top and flip flops, got many a hot case in my hair, down my shirt or on top of my feet and never acted like a crybaby- just shake it out and keeping the gun pointed downrange and continue shooting. Running ARs or 1911s hot like all the folks in the carbine classes do, I'll wear close toed shoes now.
      Alrighty. It's not about being a cry-baby though. It's largely about safety and in some cases not being offensive (gang wear, etc.) to others.
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      • uhlan1
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        • Aug 2012
        • 6217

        Originally posted by Excelsior
        Why do you lie?

        Worse, why do you take the time and make the effort not to add value to a thread but simply to troll?

        Honestly, do you have an answer?

        Your comment isn't "kind" of sad. It's very sad and it reflects very poorly on you.

        LOL, talk about "hitting a nerve".
        "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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        • uhlan1
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2012
          • 6217

          Originally posted by Excelsior
          Your comments are not accurate.

          When I asked about a dress code at a shooting range it has to do almost 100% with safety and liability. It's not about excluding anyone. Quite the opposite I hope you gleaned that from the productive comments in this thread.

          There is also the ancillary issue not not dressing (even if it's safe) in a matter that's threatening or disgusting (gang wear, etc.) to others. A good way to exclude or drive away people from the shooting sports is to stock public ranges with threatening looking people.

          FWIW, most pro USPSA, ICORE, Steel Challenge, shooters DO dress in a way that's analogous to PGA golfers. Caps, polo shirts with collars (although the PGA might not allow as many advertisements), typically long pants (some pro shooters do wear shorts in the hotter months and all of pro golf except the top PGA also allow shorts.) I suspect the pro shooters dress as well as they do out of both pride and sponsors' requirements.

          Look at this thread very carefully. Some of the childish trolling that actually takes exception to eye/ear protection is one small reason why the shooting community struggles.

          Drop the "almost" and the debate pretty much ends. But you know that.

          I just watched today a You Tube clip of the Women's USPSA Nationals. though many were dressed as you state many also were wearing shorts, cargo shorts, cargo pants, one in jean cut-offs, t-shirts, tank tops. And, OMG, one professional shooter was tatted out to the 9's.

          There is much diversity in dress among the many sub cultures and age groups in this state.
          People in my town are not going to go out to the range dressed like a professional golfer. They are going to wear baggy pants, t-shirts and hoodies. On top of that, our culture in general is becoming more and more relaxed in appearance. In my area, people go to weddings and funerals wearing shorts. Ties are disappearing at a rapid rate.

          I am also unclear by how you define "disgusting" or "gang wear". It is much more subtle than a red or blue hoodie, and it can be different town to town, sub-gang to sub-gang. Clifford Manor Norteno in "Watson" it's a "C" on a belt buckle for example. If I believed the popular perception about what constitutes gang wear around this area, I'd never leave the ranch.
          Last edited by uhlan1; 02-02-2014, 9:23 PM.
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          • Excelsior
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            • Mar 2011
            • 4215

            Originally posted by uhlan1

            LOL, talk about "hitting a nerve".
            Why didn't you tell us why you lied in an earlier posting?
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            • Excelsior
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              • Mar 2011
              • 4215

              Originally posted by uhlan1
              I just watched today a You Tube clip of the Women's USPSA Nationals. though many were dressed as you state many also were wearing shorts, cargo shorts, cargo pants, one in jean cut-offs, t-shirts, tank tops. And, OMG, one professional shooter was tatted out to the 9's.
              Go look at the actual PRO shooters. S&W, Glock, Taurus and others all field teams of factory shooters -- and they dress like it.

              Originally posted by uhlan1
              There is much diversity in dress among the many sub cultures and age groups in this state.
              People in my town are not going to go out to the range dressed like a professional golfer. They are going to wear baggy pants, t-shirts and hoodies. On top of that, our culture in general is becoming more and more relaxed in appearance. In my area, people go to weddings and funerals wearing shorts. Ties are disappearing at a rapid rate.
              So? Why obfuscate? Gang wear is not about all grab becoming less formal in general. If I went to a pro match at my club (yes, we do actually have them now and again) the actual pros would be dressed like pros. Not a one would be wearing "baggy pants, t-shirts and hoodies."

              Originally posted by uhlan1
              I am also unclear by how you define "disgusting" or "gang wear". It is much more subtle than a red or blue hoodie, and it can be different town to town, sub-gang to sub-gang. Clifford Manor Norteno in "Watson" it's a "C" on a belt buckle for example. If I believed the popular perception about what constitutes gang wear around this area, I'd never leave the ranch.
              Good point. Gang wear is most certainly can be a local or regional thing. What means something in one place, mean absolutely nothing at all elsewhere. Many places (be it the local Elks lodge, a dance club or a shoot range) base their dress codes on these local customs.

              A well-formed adult should be able to understand on their own what's disgusting and what's not. Sadly not all have the benefit of decent formations as adults. Even something like a Big Johnson tshirt is slobbish in an environment with kids around.
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              • uhlan1
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                • Aug 2012
                • 6217

                Originally posted by Excelsior
                Why didn't you tell us why you lied in an earlier posting?
                Why would I lie. I don't tell people they annoy me when they don't. I have found you annoying. You seem to enjoy a belief that your own superiority allows you to tell others how to live. You throw a grenade like your anti-smoking thread, just so you can talk down to people. I think it makes you feel better about yourself to take on all comers and that's sad. This whole thread was started as a troll thread.
                You and I both know it's not about safety, it's "almost about safety", silly rabbit.
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                • njineermike
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 9784

                  I can't believe people are still "debating" this intellectual midget.
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                  Dude went full CNN...
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                  • morfeeis
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                    • Apr 2010
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                    Originally posted by njineermike
                    I can't believe people are still "debating" this intellectual midget.
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                    • Target-Ed
                      Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 153

                      Uniform of the day

                      Originally posted by smle-man
                      I go with Dress Mess and full size medals, no miniatures. I like to hear the clanking of the medals from the recoil when shooting.
                      What no "Choker Whites". Seriously Khakis and a golf shirt work fine for me. Ladies watch the low cut necklines....saw a lady bounce .45 brass off of a partition and down her shirt....she was not happy Hearing and eye protection mandatory

                      Ed

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                      • Surf & Turf
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 729

                        Originally posted by njineermike
                        I can't believe people are still "debating" this intellectual midget.

                        Hey...he may be a midget, but ya gotta respect the intellectual in him!..

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                        • ZirconJohn
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                          • Sep 2007
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                          Originally posted by SonofWWIIDI
                          I vote for this! (For the ladies only of course...who cares what dudes wear?!?)
                          So... I'm looking at this pic, and the GF walks in... ahhh GREAT...!

                          She says; "whattayalookingAT...!?!"

                          I look at her and say... I'm reading the post...!

                          She says... OKAY... don't look back at the screen and TELL ME what the post says...?

                          Me:

                          I have to go now...

                          DANG YOU WWII...!!!
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                          • CMW
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                            • Jul 2010
                            • 356

                            Originally posted by Excelsior
                            Go look at the actual PRO shooters. S&W, Glock, Taurus and others all field teams of factory shooters -- and they dress like it.
                            They are being paid money, to wear a uniform at an event, as a representative for whatever sponsor is writing the check. You do understand that right?

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                            • SonofWWIIDI
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 21583

                              Originally posted by ZirconJohn
                              So... I'm looking at this pic, and the GF walks in... ahhh GREAT...!

                              She says; "whattayalookingAT...!?!"

                              I look at her and say... I'm reading the post...!

                              She says... OKAY... don't look back at the screen and TELL ME what the post says...?

                              Me:

                              I have to go now...

                              DANG YOU WWII...!!!


                              Should have told her it was a suggestion for what she should wear next time she goes to the range with you!



                              Pics of GF please?
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