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  • G21Shooter
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 3577

    Lessons learned from LAX shooting?

    I was just thinking there are two key lessons learned and reenforced from the LAX shooting;

    1. A good guy with a gun can and will stop a bad guy with a gun.

    2. Gun laws are not the answer to stopping this kind of violence. California has some of the strictest gun laws in the country and what do you know it still happens.

    Hopefully those facts will be food for thought for the anti's.
    Last edited by G21Shooter; 11-04-2013, 7:40 AM.
  • #2
    fr33domfightr
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 701

    We can also learn, having a good guy with a gun nearby, is better than having them far away.

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    • #3
      baggss
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      • Mar 2013
      • 3439

      Originally posted by G21Shooter
      California has the strictest gun laws in the country and what do you know it still happens.
      No we don't. Look at New York, Illinois and Maryland if you want to see some really stuid/strict gun laws. Frankly, compared to Marylands 8-17 week delay in getting your gun after purchase, Calis 10 day waiting period seems almost reasonable.

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      • #4
        G21Shooter
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 3577

        Originally posted by baggss
        No we don't. Look at New York, Illinois and Maryland if you want to see some really stuid/strict gun laws. Frankly, compared to Marylands 8-17 week delay in getting your gun after purchase, Calis 10 day waiting period seems almost reasonable.
        Yeah I know, corrected that. Bottom line we do as you know have stricter gun laws than the vast majority of other states.

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        • #5
          redhead
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 564

          DiFi is once again calling for an "assault weapons" ban". Anyone doubt the state legislature will gin up the ban machine again?

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          • #6
            1CavScout
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 3234

            ^^^ disagree. We might not have the strictest laws, but I would not call what Cali has reasonable. I own close to 100 guns and have a CCW, yet have to wait 10 days to get another gun. That's ridiculous IMO.
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            • #7
              DannyInSoCal
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2010
              • 8271

              IF the government was actually serious about "safety" at airports -

              And not just interested in wasting tax payer dollars on "feel good" bullcrap -

              They would require ALL bags to be checked at the curb -

              And scanning to happen BEFORE you entered the airports.

              Include "racial / pattern profiling" into the list of tactics PROVEN to work -

              But we've become to p-whipped and PC to actually implement....
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              • #8
                baggss
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                • Mar 2013
                • 3439

                Originally posted by 1CavScout
                ^^^ disagree. We might not have the strictest laws, but I would not call what Cali has reasonable. I own close to 100 guns and have a CCW, yet have to wait 10 days to get another gun. That's ridiculous IMO.
                Note that I said "seem almost reasonable" when compared with the other states mention. It's completely "unreasonable" when compared with the 40 odd other states that don't have stupid laws like we do.

                Just as a side note, I checked my pistol through as checked baggage in Terminal 5 at LAX yesterday. No problems, no one freaked out and everyting went fine. Seems that the folks at LAX, at least the airlines and TSA, are not freaking out.
                Last edited by baggss; 11-04-2013, 7:47 AM.

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                • #9
                  bubbapug1
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 7958

                  Originally posted by DannyInSoCal
                  IF the government was actually serious about "safety" at airports -

                  And not just interested in wasting tax payer dollars on "feel good" bullcrap -

                  They would require ALL bags to be checked at the curb -

                  And scanning to happen BEFORE you entered the airports.

                  Include "racial / pattern profiling" into the list of tactics PROVEN to work -

                  But we've become to p-whipped and PC to actually implement....
                  Yes, if we let the government "protect us" than we too can be shot dead at point blank range with impunity by any nut case.

                  And again...the authorities had information which would have stopped this nut job and failed to act within a reasonable time frame....same as the underwear bomber, the Tucson shooter, the Denver shooter, the virginia tech shooter, and a few others.

                  The laws are on the books to stop these guys, but as we can see, the only people the authorities really want to go after and lock up are the people who aren't problematic to the community.

                  The problem is DiFi, not the shooters. She is squandering our resources in areas which have no postive affect on stopping shootings...she just wants to create more criminals and eventually take all weapons out of the hands of everyone but her jack booted oligarchy clients and disaffected lower class support group getting her handouts.

                  This is our pre stalin period and if you say that people think you are crazy....but history shows our path is now almost identical to the idealogical twisting and turning of facts to help lock up the independent minded folks, and the leaders of free enterprise. Than it will really be time to liquadate the resistance to a totalatarian socialist agenda. Stalin killed millions, DiFi just wants to lock them up, tax them into poverty, and take their property...I guess that's really NO BIG DEAL....not!!

                  if Hillary wins, and she will if the republicans continue to self destruct and lean even more right...we are screwed.

                  The lesson we should learn here is if one guy has mental issues and the authorities let him go on a killing rampage....than the innocent MUST pay with their rights. DiFi....
                  Last edited by bubbapug1; 11-04-2013, 8:17 AM.
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                  • #10
                    taperxz
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 19395

                    Sorry but there is really nothing to learn from this event.

                    What can you possibly learn from a single individual who was basically playing suicide by cop in an airport when wanting to take someone down with him?

                    You can't use the mentally ill to justify a means whether it be pro or con.

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                    • #11
                      jwkincal
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1621

                      This event demonstrates that the magazine-fed semi-auto rifle is NOT a "magic death engine" which turns an unskilled person into a spectacularly successful mass-murderer.
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                      • #12
                        Full Clip
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 10263

                        Originally posted by redhead
                        DiFi is once again calling for an "assault weapons" ban". Anyone doubt the state legislature will gin up the ban machine again?
                        They couldn't get it "done" even after 20 children were killed at Newtown.

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                        • #13
                          CWDraco
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 3359

                          Originally posted by jwkincal
                          This event demonstrates that the magazine-fed semi-auto rifle is NOT a "magic death engine" which turns an unskilled person into a spectacularly successful mass-murderer.
                          and this will fall on deaf ears

                          thousands if not millions of guns sold every year and yet the gun violance decreases every year.

                          these two facts don't support the anti-gun movement so they ignore them.

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                          • #14
                            sholling
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 10360

                            Originally posted by G21Shooter
                            I was just thinking there are two key lessons learned and reenforced from the LAX shooting;

                            1. A good guy with a gun can and will stop a bad guy with a gun.

                            2. Gun laws are not the answer to stopping this kind of violence. California has some of the strictest gun laws in the country and what do you know it still happens.

                            Hopefully those facts will be food for thought for the anti's.
                            You are 100% correct but facts do not trump political correctness and the Progressive agenda of disarming the peasant classes. Progressives in media and Government will see this as an opportunity to disarm the public.
                            "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

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                            • #15
                              ap3572001
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 6039

                              Originally posted by 1CavScout
                              ^^^ disagree. We might not have the strictest laws, but I would not call what Cali has reasonable. I own close to 100 guns and have a CCW, yet have to wait 10 days to get another gun. That's ridiculous IMO.
                              I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.

                              I am an LEO for the last 20 years and also have plenty of guns.

                              When I go to my LGS after work and decide to buy something , I have to wait my 10 days too. To cool off I guess ....... LOL

                              Few months ago I found a really nice unfired S&W revovler in 22LR. I had to wait another 10 days to get it.

                              Did this really help? Did this really prevent any gun violence?

                              Does the bullet button and 10rd magazine limit really help anything? NO IT DOES NOT !

                              Are they really interested in public safety?

                              I DON'T THINK SO !
                              Last edited by ap3572001; 11-04-2013, 8:42 AM.

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