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  • #31
    bellwilliam
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 1947

    Originally posted by romadant
    Were those two traveling with a wife and toddlers/babys?
    how about this:
    Learn what constitutes child molestation and read the statistics of sex offenders and child molestors.


    * Those inmates who were convicted of committing violent acts against children were more like to have been white,"

    * White inmates were nearly three times more likely to have victimized a child than black inmates.

    * Nearly two-thirds of convicted child molesters and/or offenders were or had been married.

    In almost half of the the child molestation cases, the child was the convicted sex offender's son, daughter, or relative.


    There are a x100 more child molester victims than terrorist victims. I definitely agree on racial profile white male, married with kids. pull their kids aside and question them at every opportunity.

    does this fit your description ?
    It sucks to be one racial profiled, isn't it ?

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    • #32
      BlueRidge62
      Member
      • May 2013
      • 256

      Originally posted by DannyInSoCal
      IF the government was actually serious about "safety" at airports -

      And not just interested in wasting tax payer dollars on "feel good" bullcrap -

      They would require ALL bags to be checked at the curb -

      And scanning to happen BEFORE you entered the airports.

      Include "racial / pattern profiling" into the list of tactics PROVEN to work -

      But we've become to p-whipped and PC to actually implement....
      That would not really help..it just moves the targets,i mean the crowd , outside bottled up..where bad guy can just hop out of his car guns a blazing rather than have to walk inside to do the same.

      You would have to do the search by car, away from the terminal, once cleared by that screening..you would be allowed to proceed to the terminal and get out of your car...but that will never happen..can you imagine the nightmare catching a flight would be then...no thanks...our airport dangers are not so bad we need that kind of security yet...

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      • #33
        Johnny_Utah
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 593

        Originally posted by bellwilliam
        how about this:
        Learn what constitutes child molestation and read the statistics of sex offenders and child molestors.


        * Those inmates who were convicted of committing violent acts against children were more like to have been white,"

        * White inmates were nearly three times more likely to have victimized a child than black inmates.

        * Nearly two-thirds of convicted child molesters and/or offenders were or had been married.

        In almost half of the the child molestation cases, the child was the convicted sex offender's son, daughter, or relative.


        There are a x100 more child molester victims than terrorist victims. I definitely agree on racial profile white male, married with kids. pull their kids aside and question them at every opportunity.

        does this fit your description ?
        It sucks to be one racial profiled, isn't it ?

        When TSA pats you down, they are looking for terrorists, not child molesters. Profile all you like, but the facts about WHO commits the majority of terrorist acts don't lie. Facts are not racist. This is similar to the "stop and frisk" policies and why they work. You won't find a ton of police in the upper scale neighborhoods patting people down, because that is not where the crime occurs.
        Last edited by Johnny_Utah; 11-04-2013, 1:06 PM.

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        • #34
          romadant
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 816

          Originally posted by Johnny_Utah
          When TSA pats you down, they are looking for terrorists, not child molesters. Profile all you like, but the facts about WHO commits the majority of terrorist acts don't lie. Facts are not racist.
          Was coming back to say this.

          bellwilliam - Is it your assumption that the TSA was patting me down and scanning our baby food to find out whether or not I was a child molester? Doubt it.

          Racial profiling, pattern analysis, incident history, and other parameters need to be used in unison.

          What if we were an Asian family? Do you have some sort of stat you would like to toss out to prove Asians are bad like your trying to prove about white people with your little molestation lesson?

          Muslim men traveling alone have proven they CAN be a threat SOMETIMES... more so than other combinations and races of travelers.

          But I'm not just singling them out. Since you brought up white guys molesting children - if there was some white guy wandering around schools and parks on a regular basis and he had no kids, no reason to be there, and didn't appear to just be out for a morning walk I would hope someone would find it odd and question him.
          I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence... I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honour than that she should, in a cowardly manner, become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor. -- Mahatma Ghandi

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          • #35
            Artema
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 3821

            Originally posted by Johnny_Utah
            When TSA pats you down, they are looking for terrorists, not child molesters. Profile all you like, but the facts about WHO commits the majority of terrorist acts don't lie. Facts are not racist. This is similar to the "stop and frisk" policies and why they work. You won't find a ton of police in the upper scale neighborhoods patting people down, because that is not where the crime occurs.
            Wrong, they're illegally searching you for drugs. They don't care about terrorists (well, before this shooting), they're abusing their powers to violate your 4th amendment rights in the war against non-violent drug users.
            - SAAMI Pressure Specs
            Originally posted by Artema
            I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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            • #36
              gogohopper
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 4733

              Originally posted by bellwilliam
              how about this:
              Learn what constitutes child molestation and read the statistics of sex offenders and child molestors.


              * Those inmates who were convicted of committing violent acts against children were more like to have been white,"

              * White inmates were nearly three times more likely to have victimized a child than black inmates.

              * Nearly two-thirds of convicted child molesters and/or offenders were or had been married.

              In almost half of the the child molestation cases, the child was the convicted sex offender's son, daughter, or relative.


              There are a x100 more child molester victims than terrorist victims. I definitely agree on racial profile white male, married with kids. pull their kids aside and question them at every opportunity.

              does this fit your description ?
              It sucks to be one racial profiled, isn't it ?
              Speaking of child molesters, you seem very BUTT HURT.
              Originally posted by Webologist
              I am in a sympathy-free zone as well. A leftist brown shirt reaping what he sowed after profiting from it is sweet justice indeed.

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              • #37
                bellwilliam
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 1947

                Originally posted by gogohopper
                Speaking of child molesters, you seem very BUTT HURT.
                what ? you got offended because it applied to you ? what do you think of the people that got racial profiled.

                my point is you don't get to decide WHEN and WHERE to racial profile. can't just say racial profile is okay at airport and but not anywhere else.

                if white married male is more likely (by quite a bit) than other race to child molest (more likely with their own kids), then we should stop and question every white married male (but NOT black or Asians) driving through school zone and parks. At TSA check points, we should question every white family's kids to make sure kids weren't molested. I guarantee you TSA will arrest more child molesters than terrorists.

                since Catholic priests are more likely to molest a child than any other religion's. should we also stop all children from attending Catholic church function alone ? though we will allow children in every other church, mosque, temple. let's just single out the Catholic.

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                • #38
                  Artema
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 3821

                  Originally posted by bellwilliam
                  since Catholic priests are more likely to molest a child than any other religion's. should we also stop all children from attending Catholic church function alone ? though we will allow children in every other church, mosque, temple. let's just single out the Catholic.
                  Actually I read that it is just as common in all the super strict religions, Judaism, etc.
                  - SAAMI Pressure Specs
                  Originally posted by Artema
                  I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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                  • #39
                    bellwilliam
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1947

                    Originally posted by romadant
                    bellwilliam - Is it your assumption that the TSA was patting me down and scanning our baby food to find out whether or not I was a child molester? Doubt it.
                    no, but they should question your kids. but only white kids. not any other race.

                    Originally posted by romadant
                    white men have proven they CAN be a child molester SOMETIMES... more so than other combinations and races
                    fixed it for you.

                    Originally posted by romadant
                    But I'm not just singling them out. Since you brought up white guys molesting children - if there was some white guy wandering around schools and parks on a regular basis and he had no kids, no reason to be there, and didn't appear to just be out for a morning walk I would hope someone would find it odd and question him.
                    you are okay if cops only question / pat down white male (wondering around school) ONLY ? if so, please racial profile all you want, I am all for it.
                    Last edited by bellwilliam; 11-04-2013, 5:27 PM.

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                    • #40
                      bellwilliam
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1947

                      Originally posted by Artema
                      Actually I read that it is just as common in all the super strict religions, Judaism, etc.
                      sorry, we should profile Catholic and Judaism priests only. no one else then.

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                      • #41
                        bellwilliam
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 1947

                        Originally posted by Johnny_Utah
                        When TSA pats you down, they are looking for terrorists, not child molesters, but they should as there are more child molesters than terrorists. Profile all you like, but the facts about WHO commits the majority of child molestation acts don't lie. Facts are not racist. This is similar to the "stop and frisk" policies and why they work. You want ton of police in the upper scale neighborhoods question kids, because that is where whites live.
                        fixed it for you

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                        • #42
                          musick
                          CGSSA Associate
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 1062

                          AM radio stations (KOGO and KFI), CNN and Fox News all reported an "assault weapon" was used on more than one occasion.

                          NPR proclaimed a "semi-automatic rifle" was used.

                          Black is white and night is day.

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                          • #43
                            MRLOUIEV
                            Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 118

                            Mental Health continues to be ignored

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                            • #44
                              cajay
                              Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 204

                              I was just thinking there are two key lessons learned and reenforced from the LAX shooting;

                              1.When shots are fired in an airport, never hide behind a TSA agent

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                              • #45
                                romadant
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 816

                                bellwilliam... it's clear that a white man has molested you... possibly stole your wife or girlfriend... so I will let you go be angry in the corner.

                                If you can't see why profiling makes sense with regards to airport security you're just too slow and sensitive to argue with.
                                I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence... I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honour than that she should, in a cowardly manner, become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor. -- Mahatma Ghandi

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